1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Fitness/Workout thread

Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by DonShula84, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

    15,886
    8,901
    113
    Dec 21, 2007
    NY
    Yea Im not my fav person at the moment. I gotta help my dad finish tearing down his garage so I should hopefully be done quick and get back to bed.
     
  2. JCowScot

    JCowScot So funky the dead dance

    4,205
    1,837
    113
    Mar 22, 2008
    FLA USA
    Good luck w/ that one, slick.:hi5:
     
  3. charlestonphan

    charlestonphan Junior Member

    4,229
    1,493
    0
    Mar 22, 2008
    changing eating habits is extremely difficult, no doubt. i have found that WW helps me with that in this way;

    point totals for "bad" foods are higher for smaller portions than those of "good" foods.

    i might want the chips, but 10 of them are not as filling as a whole banana, and the Chips equal 4 WW points, versus 2 points for a large banana. so if i am hungry it is easy for me to rationalize eating the banana as a snack instead. or the leftover grilled chicken breast or fish from the night before.

    or at dessert time, any small ice cream sandwich or klondike bar generally equals 4 or 5 WW points alone. so i go with 2 sugar free pudding cups (sweetened with splenda) AND a banana chopped up and mixed with it. thats a big dessert.

    when i can get that kind of volume to make sure i am not going to get hungry later, it is much easier for me to rationalize.

    same applies with green veggies; you can eat twice as much of the good stuff for the same point value or less than starches, so you tend to have an extra helping of salad and veggies to fill you versus the extra starch.
     
  4. charlestonphan

    charlestonphan Junior Member

    4,229
    1,493
    0
    Mar 22, 2008
    your girl reads thephins.com, doesn't she? :lol:
     
    JCowScot likes this.
  5. JCowScot

    JCowScot So funky the dead dance

    4,205
    1,837
    113
    Mar 22, 2008
    FLA USA
    No..........she's a Bucs fan.:sad:

    :lol:
     
  6. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

    30,482
    37,778
    113
    Dec 2, 2007
    Jersey
    Question for you work-out gurus

    I've recently decided that I would like to start lifting to build muscle...mainly in my arms. Now I have a bench press station in my basement but I'm not sure how to start. I know it's best to start light and work your way up. So tonight I did 3 sets of 8 with just 25 lb weights on each side (50 total). So my question is, where do I go from there? Do I do that every other day? should I do more sets? add more weight? I kind of want to get going on it without overdoing myself. Any help is appreciated.
     
  7. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

    31,885
    8,682
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    Bloomington, IN.
    Rock we have a workout thread bud. :up:
     
  8. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

    31,885
    8,682
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    Bloomington, IN.
    So I've completely fell off track. My weight loss has slowed to an almost screech. I feel defeated. I cant control my eating, and I've gotten way too comfortable in my workout routines.
     
  9. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

    15,886
    8,901
    113
    Dec 21, 2007
    NY
    Do the opposite. :up:
     
  10. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

    53,333
    23,006
    0
    Dec 7, 2007
    switch up your routine. Try some new excercises, in a different order, different work split, different number of reps, etc..........

    As for diet, thats why I don't diet :pointlol:
     
    azfinfanmang likes this.
  11. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

    22,422
    9,819
    0
    Nov 27, 2007
    DC Metro Area

    I am sure other more qualified experts will assist, but I will point out a few things:

    1) Remember to include the weight of the bar in addition to the plates themselves. Olympic bars are traditionally 45lbs.
    2) Lower weight, more reps traditionally is for toning, not mass
    3) Higher weight, less reps (to failure) traditionally is for muscle mass
    4) Personally I try to find out my max bench press weight based on Qty 1 (definately get a spotter, or invest in Smith Bench w/safety system). Use this as a guide to find a proper weight (% of your Body Weight) and decide if you want to tone, or build mass.
     
  12. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

    23,401
    16,342
    113
    Nov 22, 2007
    Denver, CO
    I strongly encourage to get a spotter for benching especially if you're a beginner. I don't have a spotter when I bench, but I know my limits and that's why I haven't been hurt.

    In all seriousness though... does anybody do the John Henderson tactic to get themselves pumped up for that last lift?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4cXZGkRMCY
     
  13. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

    30,482
    37,778
    113
    Dec 2, 2007
    Jersey
    well I'm completely flabby, so I want to build mass for sure.
     
  14. DonShula84

    DonShula84 Moderator Luxury Box

    9,311
    3,464
    0
    Jan 3, 2008
    I'd also add that bench press isnt the best exercise if your goal is building up your arms.
     
  15. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

    23,401
    16,342
    113
    Nov 22, 2007
    Denver, CO
    I agree, but I disagree. Bench press works your triceps as well. However you need to do more than just bench. I would strongly suggest finding a balanced workout instead of being one of those "I only do bench press and curls" type guys because well.. no one respects them kind of guys.
     
    Motion, azfinfanmang and JCowScot like this.
  16. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

    31,885
    8,682
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    Bloomington, IN.
    So you sayin you dont respect me boy?
     
    GridIronKing34 likes this.
  17. JCowScot

    JCowScot So funky the dead dance

    4,205
    1,837
    113
    Mar 22, 2008
    FLA USA
    No doubt! I just :pity: every time I see one w/ his popped collar and uber-plaid shorts...it's really sad.

    On the main topic, I agree w/ what bigdogs said. Going to failure in app. 6-12 reps is going to build your mass (and strength) fast. Bench, curls, deadlift, dips, pullovers, military press, tri extensions- they can all be done w/ a simple bench setup. Aside from the bench press (and possibly mil. press), they can all also be done w/out a spotter. I would in no way recommend doing bench w/out a spotter. Too many bad things can happen.

    If you go back and look at this thread rocky, you'll find we've all said it before, but it bears repeating: drink LOTS of water, get LOTS (7-9 hrs) of sleep and eat smaller meals but more of them. You can easily sabotage all the work you are doing by not getting enough sleep and doing the typical starve-pig out routine of your average male.:yes:

    If you find yourself getting off-track (this is also directed at enforcerfin:wink2: ), getting a partner to hold you accountable and push you when you need it is probably one of the best things I can recommend. Some people can do it all by themselves, but most of us can benefit from a partner, if not need one outright (myself included). :up:

    Hope this helps; if you could give us a total rundown of your available equipment Mr. raccoon, I'm sure one (or two or three:lol:) of us would be more than happy to come up w/ a routine for you if you're not sure of where to start. Good luck!:hi5:
     
  18. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

    30,482
    37,778
    113
    Dec 2, 2007
    Jersey
    ya know I kind of realized that last night...so dumbbells would be better?
     
  19. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

    23,401
    16,342
    113
    Nov 22, 2007
    Denver, CO
    Fine, you're an exception! :pity:
     
  20. azfinfanmang

    azfinfanmang Premium Member Luxury Box

    29,745
    11,512
    0
    Nov 23, 2007

    Well...yeahh..no.

    Each exersize if done correctly isolates different muscles..and in some cases muscle groups.

    Bench press (When done right) really works on chest, and to a lesser degree triceps.

    Curls isolates Biceps etc etc.

    One thing I have been doing for the past 15 years is break up PUSH exercises on one day, then PULL exercises another:

    PUSH: CHEST-TRICEPS-SHOULDERS-QUAds

    PULL: BICEPS-BACK (Delts, Lats etc) HAMSTRINGS
     
  21. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

    53,333
    23,006
    0
    Dec 7, 2007
    if you want to build any muscle group switching back and forth between barbell and dumbell excercises during the routine, or say one arm day doing barbell, then next arm day doing all dumbells, is a good way to shock the muscle group. :up:

    Which is something else enforcerfin can do to switch up his routine..........
     
  22. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

    31,885
    8,682
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    Bloomington, IN.
    Not following...you mean the single bar, and the hand held ones?
     
  23. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

    53,333
    23,006
    0
    Dec 7, 2007
    yeah barbell is the large single bar.
    dumbells are the smaller hand weights.
     
    Big E likes this.
  24. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

    31,885
    8,682
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    Bloomington, IN.
    Got you. So I only workout my upper body 3 times a week, is that not enough? I do lower body 2 a week. and cardio almost everyday.
     
  25. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

    53,333
    23,006
    0
    Dec 7, 2007
    You are just starting out?

    edit: What are your goals?
     
  26. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

    31,885
    8,682
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    Bloomington, IN.
    No...lol...I've been at it since, November. I want to get bigger muscle wise, but smaller weight wise. I've put some weight, but the last couple months have been a real brick wall. I want to lose more weight is my ultimate goal.
     
  27. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

    53,333
    23,006
    0
    Dec 7, 2007
    Do you work your upper body all together?
    You can also cut back on your amount of weight training days do something like:

    monday: legs
    tuesday: back/shoulders
    wednesday:legs
    thursday:chest/arms
    friday: all cardio/fun cardio like play ball or something like that.

    and as for the dumbell barbell thing
    monday do all barbell
    tuesday do barbell
    wednesday do dumbell
    thursday barbell
    then the next week switch them all for the opposite something like that.
     
    Big E likes this.
  28. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

    53,333
    23,006
    0
    Dec 7, 2007
    if you want excercises buy this book

    link
     
    Big E likes this.
  29. DonShula84

    DonShula84 Moderator Luxury Box

    9,311
    3,464
    0
    Jan 3, 2008
    You can do a lot of different work-outs with just a standard bench setup. But I'd get a set of dumbbells to add to the mix. With just dumbbells and a bench you can hit pretty much everything to some degree.

    This is a good website if you want a list of different exercises you can do with what you got.

    http://www.ast-ss.com/training/exercises/execution.asp?bp=Ab&pn=1
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2008
  30. Zeke0123

    Zeke0123 message board ******* Club Member

    5,596
    3,610
    113
    Nov 22, 2007
    You have conflicting goals Brother...Put the scale away If you are training with heavy weights your going to get bigger and stronger and therefore heavier..even with a good diet fat weighs less than muscle.


    Just keep an eye on you waistline and how you look in the mirror and how much stronger you get for progress...a scale will do you no good.
     
    Big E and JCowScot like this.
  31. JCowScot

    JCowScot So funky the dead dance

    4,205
    1,837
    113
    Mar 22, 2008
    FLA USA
    Personally, I think you are doing too much. With cardio every day, working out 5 of 7 days, and (I assume) not getting enough sleep, your body doesn't ever have time to recover. Your in a constant state of stress, which causes your body to retain fat. Also, b/c your body never fully recovers, it has a very difficult time building muscle. It has to fill in the 'hole' you've created before it can build the 'mountain' on top of it.

    I would cut back on the cardio to 3x a week, and workout upper and lower no more than 2x a week, preferably whole body. If you still want to do your split routine, try a upper-lower-rest-upper-lower-rest-rest schedule. As long as you are eating at least 3x a day, I wouldn't worry too much about the diet right now. You need some quick results to pick you up and get you back in the game. A nice improvement in your workout #'s should help. I know you're frustrated, but don't give up on it.:up::hi5:
     
    Big E likes this.
  32. Motion

    Motion New Member

    5,811
    1,904
    0
    Dec 2, 2007
    Anyone got and chest tips? Always looking for new ideas for chest exercises.
     
  33. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

    15,886
    8,901
    113
    Dec 21, 2007
    NY
    Whatd you do now?
     
  34. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

    31,885
    8,682
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    Bloomington, IN.
    He benches cars...
     
    Motion likes this.
  35. Motion

    Motion New Member

    5,811
    1,904
    0
    Dec 2, 2007
    I've been trying some pre-exhaustion techniques with limited success.

    Usually do 3x10 Dumbell Flyes, Flat Bench, Incline Bench

    Sometime throw in some pushups to mix it up or warm up.
     
  36. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

    15,886
    8,901
    113
    Dec 21, 2007
    NY
    Amatures. Call me when you step up to tanks.
     
    Motion and Big E like this.
  37. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

    15,886
    8,901
    113
    Dec 21, 2007
    NY
    I'd do some benching going from heaviest to lightest weight in your sets. If you can get a spotter, try doing negatives to really burn yourself out towards the end of your WO.

    You could throw those dumbell flyes in between your bench sets too if u want.
     
    Motion likes this.
  38. Motion

    Motion New Member

    5,811
    1,904
    0
    Dec 2, 2007
    Yeah I usually shuffle things around every couple weeks to mix things up.

    I've been thinking about going back to the Max-OT type training. I've had some good gains from that in the past.
     
  39. texasPHINSfan

    texasPHINSfan New Member

    6,363
    3,740
    0
    Dec 14, 2007
    Bellevue, WA
    ask your boy Tebow.... his coaches "limit" him to 400 lbs on the bench. :up:
     
    Motion likes this.
  40. Big E

    Big E Plus sized porn star

    31,885
    8,682
    113
    Nov 29, 2007
    Bloomington, IN.
    dizam..thats pretty impressive for a Qb......I bet he'd make an awesome TE.
     

Share This Page