Both were outstanding but ROTY should goto Joe Flacco IMO.
Might be alone on this but I felt Flacco was much more of composed QB than Ryan.
Who do you think wins ROTY?
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Both have started to fade towards the end of the season.
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I got to see Ryan play a lot this year, I think he deserves it. The Ravens have a pretty stacked team, Ryan had so many things to overcome on that team. He did get a ton of help from Turner but I'd give the nod to Ryan over Flacco.
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1. Your an Osu fan
2. You didn't like the Dark Knight
3. Your high if you think Flacco outperformed Ryan
Somebody give him his meds
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Phil Simms today on the radio said that Flacco can make throws that Ryan would not dream of trying.
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I dont see the big deal about Matt Ryan honestly. His supporting cast on offense, in my opinion, is much better than what Flacco has. Maybe you havent seen it because of inept Atlanta QB play in the past, but it's there.
Also every time I saw Ryan play, he was doing stupid things like throwing off his back foot, and yes locking onto receivers. I'm not saying he doesn't have a bright future, but honestly if I was taking one of them...yes it's Flacco. -
2. Yeah, maj deserves to burn for that one.
3. Or maybe ur high for not listening to him.
I think they both did some really great things this year. Both will be franchise QBs for their teams moving forward. But Atlanta didn't have the defense Baltimore did, and Ryan still led them to 11 wins.
I'd be curious to know what Henne (the most NFL ready QB in the 2008 draft) would have done this year. I think we could potentially still be sitting at 11-5 with Henne. -
vs. Washington - 10-21, 134 yards, 1TD 1 INT
vs. Pittsburgh - 11-28, 115 yards, 0 TD 2 INT
@ Dallas - 17-25, 149 yards, 1 TD 0 INT
vs. Jacksonville - 17-23, 297 yards, 0 TD 0 INT
Yeah your right he was really lighting teams up the past month. His best game came against a team who couldn't wait for the season to end and was without their best secondary player. -
Well Pitt has an extremely tough defense. Washington was off and on, probably should have had a better game.
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Joe Flacco should have won. I saw him play in the opener he looked great as he has all year
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Totally disagree with this. Flacco fell into a mediocre position with an excellent defense and one of the best O coordinators in the game. Ryan got the keys to the Falcons training room and was told to have fun.
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Nothing against Joe Flacco as he did a great job in his rookie year, but Ryan is a much better QB and deserves the roty award. The only regrets is we passed on him.
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Either I'm missing something or seeing things, I do not believe Long lived up to all the hype. Many times he was burned giving up sacks, plus he commited penalties that hurt the team. In week one alone he commited more penalties then all his 26 college games.
Quality QBs are are a rare gem that make great teams, and we missed one in Matt Ryan.
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1) He only gave up 2.5 sacks on the season.
2) One of those was his first game. The other was the game after his injury (if I recall correctly)
3) I can only remember maybe 3 penalties on him all season.
4) Teams mostly run to the right. It's just easier on the runningback. It's what you call the 'vision' side when you play. Most big runs to the left are cutbacks.
5) No matter how good he is, he cant block everyone. Just because we dont run left doesnt make it exclusively his fault.Brown42000 and Big E like this. -
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Don't forget in the wildcat Long was moved to the right side alot because he is such a great blocker as well.
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Vernon Carey wasn't that bad last year. I mean, I can't say for sure he was as very good, but he said himself he graded out well. All we would have needed was one more piece at RT, or can Donald Thomas have played that side? Maybe he doesn't get injured as a RT :D but I'm not sure his style would have allowed him to. Maybe all we need is a center and slide Satele to the RG etc.
not picking Long doesn't mean we don't have protection
Speaking of Long and Baltimore, he was only credited for giving up two sacks, but he definitely caused one more. And I believe it was the Baltimore game where his guy bull rushed him, and this guy was much smaller, pushed him right into Pennginton and Long bumped Pennington. Chad had to tuck the ball and move forward, not knowing what just hit him, he ran right into the other team's leading sacker. Long clearly gave up that sack.Regan21286 and Straz like this. -
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Sparano IS an offensive line coach first and foremost. If he had no faith in Carey then it is what it is. I thought about the "what if" factor with Matt Ryan and while he may pan out to be one of the best in the NFL for yrs, I am happy with Long.
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In any event, I'm just saying, ,don't assume if we don't pick Long that all of a sudden our O-line is only high school quality. I have full faith that Parcells et al would have solved that, if they didn't pick Long. They did though, and we're in the playoffs so who cares. We just have to hope Ryan doesn't go on to have a HOF career, while Henne stinks the joint up. We'll see. -
Please tell me one of my fellow Buckeye brothers didnt say something as dumb as the Dark Knight sucked.....
We dont need anymore emberassment round these boards...:no:
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