With us looking at Tannehill the rookie battling Garrard and Moore, and all the analysis of how Tanny looks in just a few days of his first training camp I thought it would be interesting to look at Dan Marino's first few days as a rookie in training camp battling a veteran QB.
We have dissected Tannehill's mechanics, and whether it means he can grow into being a big success. Let's look at how Marino's mechanics and so on looked in camp at the same stage.
Can we take anything from the comparison? If not, it's still a fun look back. Wish HBO had been there.
[video=youtube;t_CspFKm1Pk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_CspFKm1Pk[/video]
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My 2 cents. I'm not confident this guy in the video has what it takes to be very good.
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I can't believe we just spent a late 1st rounder on a guy who's likely to waste his contract on blow & partying.
We should've just traded up for Art Schlichter the previous year when we had the chance or jumped ahead of NY for Ken O'Brien.
Maybe we'd be better off sucking for Esiason. That guy is gonna be a stud!
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Woodley says he's ready for an All-Pro season - let's see what he's got!! He and Cefalo seem to have a good connection going. That 13 kid should probably sit for a couple /three years and learn from Woodley first before we put him in.
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Heard he had a coke problem. Does not bode well for living in Miami.
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I agree. Woodley's only 25 with an 18-5-1 record the past 2 years and helped take us from a WildCard birth to the SB last year.
QB wasn't a need. What we needed was a receiver! We drafted Duper last year, and he didn't do ****; now we use an 8th rounder on some bum named Mark Clayton when we should've taken Henry Ellard in the 1st. Our GM is clueless!!! My grandma could draft better than this with that young kid with the funny looking hair setting up her board! Have airplanes banners been invented yet, because if they have I'm seriously renting one out. Who's with me?!thisperishedmin, DolfanTom and dolfan7171 like this. -
Exactly why I found this interesting.
Talented rookie. Notice that even in camp it wasn;t like people IMMEDIATELY could see Dan was CLEARLY the starter within days. Similarly, Tannehill has some convincing and proving-it to do.
It's fine if Tanny waits until mid season. Better, in fact.
Let's follow the Marino template. lol.dolfan7171 and gandalfin like this. -
Actually I made the same allusion and comparison in a Club thread .What triggered it was the comment made by some players that the ball just whooshes out of his hand with a similar power and naturalness of Marinos throws.
They also share a supreme confidence in themselves .
I was accused of being a helpless homer and that may be so but hope is the fuel that keeps long suffering fans going :up:DolfanTom, RevRick, ToddPhin and 1 other person like this. -
I guess I was interested in seeing whether people got their hopes up really high really early with what Dan showed in camp. The truth is, Ryan Tannehill requires our patience. Promising is different than ready.dolfan7171 likes this.
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WOW TC used to be in Vero Beach???? That is far from Miami
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They should have went "Wrong Way For Elway" the season before.DolfanTom, Rocky Raccoon and ToddPhin like this.
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We better pick up that up and comer from the NY Giants, whats his name? Bill Parcell I think.DolfanTom, ToddPhin and Ophinerated like this.
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I did some with Mike Miller the other night
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The video description says its "Biscayne College", now known as St Thomas.
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My recollection is that there were some immediate "wows" with Marino. There were reports of how he was breaking WRs fingers and how much harder he threw than Woodley or Strock. We went into that draft looking for DL help, but Shula saw Marino as too good to pass up that late. The main difference was that the fans believed in Shula and they were coming off of a SB loss so there was no pressure to start Dan immediately.
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Well, what's amazing to me is that I was there...in that crowd somewhere... It was at Biscayne college. The clip at Vero was the previous days' scrimmage... I didn't make the scrimmage...dammit...had to work...
At any rate, that was then, this is now...if Tanny does some of the things that Danny could do...we're all in for a treat...CrunchTime, DolfanTom, dolfan7171 and 2 others like this. -
Interesting difference. The lack of immediate clamor to start the rookie, plus Shula's very confident (read stubborn) way of doing things his way meant Dan would only start when he was ready. Also, Shula could probably tell that there is no WAY a guy like Dan Marino's confidence was even going to be broken, even if he had some bad games. I don;t think Tanny has as much swagger as Dan, but Tanny DEFNITELY packs more cojones than Henne in the apparent confidence as a QB department.
I just think it's good to remember that even Marino was not a clear starter day one as a rookie. We need to chill on the T-hill.dolfan7171, Ophinerated and ToddPhin like this. -
I'm sure you've improved with age, like a fine wine. :)
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Yeah just re-watched. It showed the graphic for "Biscayne College" for less than a 1/2 second at time :47. At 1:02 I saw Vero Beach, maybe it was Vero Beach Newscenter?
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Comparing mechanics ... that's kind of humorous (nothing against Tannehill). Marino had the greatest release mechanics in history. Only Namath comes close.
Actually, I thought Marino would be incredible. In fact, he's the reason I ramped up as a fan of Miami (before I was a moderate fan; great respect for the Don; etc. and just a huge NFL fan). I watched Marino from the time he was a freshman at Pitt and first saw him throw a football. It was magical and having loved watching Namath throw the ball, I immediately thought he would be great as a Freshman. It was just a matter of time. That first game, btw, against the Bills as I recall, proved he was a stud.
The one advantage Dan had is that he had 4 years of QB experience at Pitt whereas Tannehill has very limited college experience as a starter. I think it will take some time; maybe longer than Dan. Really, just give him time; don't force anything and see what happens. The worst thing that can happen is for the owner to put pressure on the coach if we start losing. The coach needs to make his own best decision (what he thinks is best for the team and the long term development of RT).CrunchTime, DolfanTom, MrClean and 2 others like this. -
And to be clear, my intention in posting this is not to hope Tannehill is the next Marino.
It's more to point out that even the great Dan Marino had to work his way up to being a starter midway into his first season, so we should tone down our Tanny-should-start-Day-One chants for a moment and let things play out.ToddPhin likes this. -
Different eras of football. Rookie starters are now the norm, not the exception. There's too much money tied up into them now, even with the rookie wage scale.
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That's a very good point that I keep forgetting about when I try to make the case for T-Hill starting right away. He is very talented, but he really is still green.
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jboogie The sky is NOT falling!
Sometimes you forget how spectacular that release was. Damn, why doesn't NFLN play more reruns and classic games??
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I wasn't even a spermatozoa back then.
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I'm not sure I agree with that.
Nearly a third of the NFL's backups make roughly as much per year as Tannehill, Gabbert, and Locker.
Close to half make roughly as much as Ponder.
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Unless my math and method are wrong (which is entirely possible), I believe you're mistaken, Desides.
Dan Marino's rookie contract: 4 year/$2.1 million ($525k/year)
Average '83 NFL team's salary: $8,098,400 {no salary cap back then}
Using the above number, #27 pick Marino's average salary represented 6.5% of the NFL's average team salary.
2012 Salary cap: $120,600,000
#8 pick Tannehill represents 2.6%
#1 pick Luck: 4.6%
#35 pick Dalton: 1.1%
So, compared to cap space/total team payroll, Miami actually had over twice as much tied up in Marino than Tannehill, 1.4 times more than Luck, and 6 times as much as Dalton.
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