Freemasons
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anlgpNew Member"FinSane wrote:
gee thanks gap, if you put this in the longue we coulda had fun. :(
fun is in the eye of the beholder my friend.
I don't really find it enjoyable to take something that was such a big and serious part of my life at one time and turn it into free reign of comments, criticisms, false suggestions and a million posts that I would otherwise ignore because people don't take the time to educate themselves and believe something someone else has said.
edit:
and this is not a knock at you. if you have something serious to add I hope you do..
but I have literally had people stop talking to me once they have found out i was a member. it is annoying.
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
"SickFinFan33 wrote:
dead honest question bro.....what EXACTLY is a freemason? and what does it entail ?
The words to this song answers your question. To a degree.
I'M JUST AN OLD CHUNK OF COAL
(F) I'm just an old (Bb) chunk of (F) coal,
But (A) I'm gonna be a diamond some (Dm) day, (F)
(Bb) I'm gonna grow and glow 'til I'm so (F) blue pure perfect,
I'm gonna (G7) put a smile on ev'rybody's (C) face. (Gm7) (C7)
(F) I'm gonna kneel and pray (Bb) ev'ry day, (F)
Lest (A) I should become vain along the (Dm) way. (F)
(Bb7) I'm just and old chunk of (F) coal now Lord,
But I'm gonna be a (C7) diamond some (F) day. (G9) (C7)
(F) I'm gonna learn the best (Bb) words to (F) talk,
Gonna (A) search and find a better way to (Dm) walk, (F) yeah!
(Bb) I'm gonna spit and polish my old rough- (F) edged self,
'Til (G7) I get rid of ev'ry single (C7) flaw. (Gm7) (C7)
Well (F) I'm gonna be the world's best friend,
Gonna (A) go 'round shakin' ev'rybody's (Dm) hand, (F) yeah!
(F) I'm just an old (Bb) chunk of (F) coal now Lord,
But (A) I'm gonna be a diamond some (Dm) day, (F)
(G7) Oh, I'm (Bb) gonna be the cotton-pickin' (F) rage of the (G7) age,
(F) I'm gonna be a (C7) diamond some (F) day. (Gm7) (F)
Words and music by Billy Joe Shaver
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
anlgpNew Memberthemole, which direction are you traveling?
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
azfinfanmangLuxury BoxI have to thank you for opening this up for conversation.
I had heard the phrase, but honestly didnt know anything at all about what it actually meant.
I have learned more from reading the short end of this thread than I probably did my ENTIRE 8th grade year in History.....
Of course I had Dr Cannibus talking to me quite a bit waaaay back then.
I applaud you for sharing and teaching brother :hi5:
anlgpNew Member"azfinfanmang wrote:
I have to thank you for opening this up for conversation.
I had heard the phrase, but honestly didnt know anything at all about what it actually meant.
I have learned more from reading the short end of this thread than I probably did my ENTIRE 8th grade year in History.....
Of course I had Dr Cannibus talking to me quite a bit waaaay back then.
I applaud you for sharing and teaching brother :hi5:
There's much more to be learned if you only open yourself up to be taught.
"The lips of wisdom are closed but to the ears of understanding."
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
"anlgp wrote:
themole, which direction are you traveling?
My journey brings me from the east, traveling west.
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
Should I do a 180?
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
anlgpNew Member"Themole wrote:
Should I do a 180?
in reference to your direction traveling? yes :sidelol: :hi5: but there has been many a discussion that traveling from west to east has its benefits, too ;) i just can't explain them here
as far as anything else? only you can decide :up:
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
"anlgp wrote:
in reference to your direction traveling? yes :sidelol: :hi5:
as far as anything else? only you can decide :up:
:wink2: Just checking! :shifty:
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
FinSaneForum Veteran"anlgp wrote:
fun is in the eye of the beholder my friend.
I don't really find it enjoyable to take something that was such a big and serious part of my life at one time and turn it into free reign of comments, criticisms, false suggestions and a million posts that I would otherwise ignore because people don't take the time to educate themselves and believe something someone else has said.
edit:
and this is not a knock at you. if you have something serious to add I hope you do..
but I have literally had people stop talking to me once they have found out i was a member. it is annoying.
well i was pointing out with my post using sarcasm(as always) that the idea that a bunch of people who happen to be theists but with no orthodox belief who get together to socialize and have barbeques together are somehow running the world is just ridiculous.
anlgpNew Member"Themole wrote:
:wink2: Just checking! :shifty:
it's cool it's been a while for ya ;)
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
Have you ever noticed that all Christian tombstones are facing east?
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
anlgpNew Member"Themole wrote:
Have you ever noticed that all Christian tombstones are facing east?
No, but that is interesting.
I never knew they were particularly fond of any direction.
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
"anlgp wrote:
No, but that is interesting.
I never knew they were particularly fond of any direction.
I found it interesting too. Perhaps it's because they were once a stranger, in a strange land. Lost in the world, got their compass oreinted and now await the arrival of the High Priest after the order of Melchezedec?
HEAVY STUFF MAN!
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
anlgpNew Member"Themole wrote:
I found it interesting too. Perhaps it's because they were once a stranger, in a strange land. Lost in the world, got their compass oreinted and now await the arrival of the High Priest after the order of Melchezedec?
HEAVY STUFF MAN!
god i love inside jokes
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
"anlgp wrote:
god i love inside jokes
Seriously! I've appreciated enjoyed this more than anything I can recall in a long time. Other than my grandchildren.
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
emeraldfinForum VeteranAnlgp
What do you know of Propaganda Due (P2) and whats your take on it?
Big ENew Member"anlgp wrote:
If anyone wants to know about masonic history or freemasons in general I have been involved with them in the past. I don't want to deal with all the conspiracy crap because from my experience it is not true so please do not ask; but if you have serious questions let me know and I will answer them to the best of my ability and obligations i have taken.
I have not been a part of the fraternity this year but the past two years before that I was heavily involved. I will not comment on anything that will break my obligation and so if you bring it up and I don't answer it one way or the other you know why. I am not involved now for various reasons but may want to be again in the future which is why I will not break my obs.
I'm not even sure why you brought it up to begin with, I'm not trying to offend you but you arent really supposed to talk about it outside of the masons. I've been trying to get in for yrs, but there is so much to it, and it is very time consuming. My father is one, my uncle Guy died a mason, and at his funeral the Masons did a prayer for him, it was incredible. I want to be a mason, and when I feel I am ready to honer and respect my family members that were or are in the Mason family I will do so.
anlgpNew Member"enforcerfin33 wrote:
I'm not even sure why you brought it up to begin with, I'm not trying to offend you but you arent really supposed to talk about it outside of the masons. I've been trying to get in for yrs, but there is so much to it, and it is very time consuming. My father is one, my uncle Guy died a mason, and at his funeral the Masons did a prayer for him, it was incredible. I want to be a mason, and when I feel I am ready to honer and respect my family members that were or are in the Mason family I will do so.
i know what i am and what i am not supposed to talk about. I was there when I took the obligations and you are not a member. There is very little I can't say. the perception that you can't talk about masonry AT ALL is a myth. You just can't say what goes on behind closed doors and I have said nothing of the sort. You have to memorize what you obligate yourself to and I still have it in my head even though I have not visited. You didn't offend me and I don't want this to come off as such I'm just setting the fact straight from what my experience has taught me. Some people don't like to talk about it, others do. Some people wear rings and other masonic things. others do not. It is all in who you are.
I have performed a funeral service as I was a chaplain in the lodge. It is a beautiful ceremony.
And why if you wanted to be one have you not asked? That is all you have to do. It is only time consuming at first and can become whatever you want after you learn the ritual; which generally only takes about half a year anymore for most US lodges...
RE P2, there's a lot of information out there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due and my take on it is they are shifty and using the name wrongly.
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
sking29Forum VeteranBy the way guys I am pretty sure all Christian tombstones face the east because that is the direction Jesus is supposed to return from when the dead are resurrected.
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." --Albert Einstein
anlgpNew Member"sking29 wrote:
By the way guys I am pretty sure all Christian tombstones face the east because that is the direction Jesus is supposed to return from when the dead are resurrected.
could be. i don't think there are any masonic references to it that's for sure.
"A man's suffering is similar to the behavior of gas. If a certain quantity of gas is pumped into an empty chamber, it will fill the chamber completely and evenly, no matter how big the chamber. Thus, suffering completely fills the human soul and conscious mind, no matter whether the suffering great or little. Therefore, the "size" of human suffering is absolutely relative." - Viktor Frankl
sking29Forum Veteran"anlgp wrote:
could be. i don't think there are any masonic references to it that's for sure.
I was just responding to the thread about Christian tombstones. I know the dead person's head is supposed to be facing east.
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." --Albert Einstein