http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...yre-wanted-back-lots-of-fins-heat-canes-.html
Credit to Disgustipate for posting this first. Some juicy nuggets in there:
- Miami and Charles Clay are in active negotiations according to Barry Jackson.
- Expected to pursue LB David Harris; may move Misi back to SAM. Take that as you will with respect to Misi and Dion Jordan.
- Not bringing back Jason Trusnik.
- Interested in bringing back Odrick, for the right price, Delmas and Jimmy Wilson (ugh).
More in the article.
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The thought of keeping Wilson is going to keep me up at night.
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Im sorry but David Harris is simply too old and slow to be anything other then a 34 ilb. Hes never been a 43 player at this level nor should he be. Hes still effective in a 34 but thats where he should stay. Id welcome him if we were going to a 34 but coyle is still here and hes not bright enough to recognize a scheme fit if it smacked him in the ding a ling.
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Meanwhile...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...cy-harvin-to-the-new-england-patriots-why-not
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I'm really not a fan of those linebackers at all. I don't think either of them are better than Koa Misi was last year, and they're just bodies that are going to get shuffled into the musical chairs that inevitably occur there.
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Hmm, Truz is a key ST guy, upgradeable hope they do keep that in mind when they do upgrade him. Also like the idea of keeping Jason Fox as the swing tackle.
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-Great bring Clay back, he is needed.
-Hate the David Harris rumor....we just failed by signing FA Vets two years ago with Ellerbe/Wheeler now you want to bring someone in who is older at 31 and who has never played a 3-4. Ugh, come on this regime's stubborness and inability to see young talent on roster if beyond infuriating. Reading that Misi not Jordan to SAM is beyond ridiculous. Misi can't stay healthy and should be used as a chess piece and rotational player. Even McCain makes more sense to give a shot at SAM. To see our #3 pick on the bench and McCain on the bench while watching Misi get injured every game will make me crazy.
-Good news on Trusnik get younger more athletic
-Think that if anyone is gone it'll be Odrick. After watching the Safety class from draft, and FA Delmas on small deal with another insurance option might be the route. I am good without Jimmy Wilson.CrunchTime likes this. -
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Interesting that they have not communicated with Brian Hartline, especially since Hartline made a public declaration after the season that he waned to know the team's plans for him asap.
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Cool Joe, but we want a ILB who excels and can stay on the field. Yes, Misi getting injured would get them in the game you'd think.... but I could imagine them signing a veteran to fill the need rather than be creative. -
I like the David Harris rumor. He's a good player. He's a leader too, something we sorely need
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However Misi isn't a bad SLB. In fact, he is pretty good at it. Just gets hurt a lot. -
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What happened to the Willis talk/rumor?
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Beggars can't be choosers and Harris is almost certainly better than anyone we have now.
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There are things I like and things I don't like.
I like the talk about Jason Fox returning to lock down the swing tackle backup position. But like sports24/7, I find it hilarious they would be doing this after keeping Fox on the bench while Dallas Thomas established himself as the worst offensive lineman in football, only putting Fox on the field because Dallas got hurt. And now suddenly they want to keep Fox because was really good. Comic and tragic at the same time. I can't wait for these clowns to be fired.
I don't inherently dislike David Harris as he's a decent linebacker and probably brings some things from a leadership and communication standpoint that this defense needs. However I do dislike that Harris made $9 million last year and that could be a starting point in negotiations for his next contract (as in, he's likely to ask for the same amount, slightly more, or slightly less). He's worth half that. And that's only if you've thoroughly investigated the Patrick Willis situation and are convinced A) he's not available, B) his medical file is a huge problem, or C) the 49ers want a high pick for him despite the fact he's been made superfluous by the play of NaVorro Bowman and Chris Borland.
And if you do take on a David Harris you need to immediately trade EITHER Dion Jordan OR Koa Misi. Having Koa Misi man the Sam linebacker spot while Dion Jordan sits the bench leaking away his trade value is just a poor business practice. Jordan needs the chance to get playing time at that position. And so does Chris McCain. Ultimately the Dolphins should hold a competition between Jordan and McCain and may the best player win. If Koa Misi is present, that will not at all be a true competition any more than Dannell Ellerbe versus Jelani Jenkins was a true "competition". Even though Jelani CLEARLY was the better player, once you got him on the field. The coaches will hand the job to the player they've seen playing the spot and that is Koa Misi. So Chris McCain and Dion Jordan will spend another year on the bench wasting away. Bad business.
I do not like that they're not pursuing Jason Trusnik. I've been a critic of how he played in the past but under Mark Duffner he looked like a new, better player. He plays with veteran intelligence, and he can man all three linebacker spots. He's also a good special teams player. Given what I just said above I certainly understand wanting to clear the way for youngsters to end up on the field like Jordie Tripp and Chris McCain. But Trusnik is cheap, and if you get a McCain out there and he can't cover a wheel route to save his life or Tripp can't make the defensive calls, then if you have Trusnik in the fold you can quickly rectify mistakes by taking them out, putting the more experienced guy in, and waiting until the young player shows you in practice that he's cleaned up his failings.
Re-signing Jimmy Wilson is another one of those so tragic it's comical things.
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I don't get the Dallas Thomas hate. He's probably gonna be the starting RG this year and from what I saw last year I'm willing to bet he does well.
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Jason Fox, Jimmy Wilson, and Jason Trusnick are not good football players,and are not worth resigning. Trusnick is a good ST player, but he was a terrible LB, and should be offered a contract only based on ST. Jason Fox was beat plenty even when we went to the short passing game, and he cant move on screen plays. He's not a good fit for our offense. And Jimmy Wilson is just awful in every capacity - bad tackling, blown assignments, penalties, etc. If any of these guys are signed, it should be in the summer after free agency and the draft concludes and we haven't found anyone better.
Regarding Delmas, I'd love to have him back but I'd be surprised if he was cleared to start the season being that he tore his ACL in December. We cant sit around and wait until next August to see if Delmas returns to form, so will we need to sign a safety in free agency this offseason unless they think Michael Thomas or Walt Aikens can play. -
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IMO, that's probably why they do prefer the bigger bodies at MLB so they can be a little bit more flexible with their fronts. Domata Peko aged pretty quickly this past year on the Bengals and Rey Maualuga suffered because of it. It was magnified on them because Vontaze Burfict can't not lead with his helmet and keeps getting concussions and missing time. And while Peko is big, he's not the size of guys like Wilfork, Soliai, Ngata, Brandon Williams, etc.Aqua4Ever04 likes this. -
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He was more than adequate at RG in the 2nd half vs Buffalo replacing Smith who was getting his *** handed to him the whole first half, vs KC and vs Oakland, before Pouncey came back after the bye. He also stepped in for Colledge at LG. Thats three positions he started at, in only his second season, after hardly playing a snap his rookie year.
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The entire situation speaks of someone that liked him in the draft pleading to give him just a little more time to "figure it out"...and ignoring that the team is losing football games while he figures it out.
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Dallas Thomas was so bad we had to change our entire offensive scheme because of his inability to hold a block for longer than 1.5 seconds. With some improvement I can see him as a backup OG, but he should never be considered to play OT.
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"I don't get the Dallas Thomas hate. He's probably gonna be the starting RG this year and from what I saw last year I'm willing to bet he does well."
^^^ really, the dude was a 3rd round pick and has proven he is worse than Tyson Clabo/Marc Colombo maybe even present day lol. If he is our starting OG next year not only did our Coaching staff fail to see his inability but our FO did a piss poor job of addressing a need.
"Coaches aren't stupid"
You know it's bad when not only your own fan base bashes your coaches but Media league wide, people who don't even watch us religiously know we have arguably the worst HC in the NFL. There reason for putting him out there IMO stems from one underlying theme with Joe Philbin, STUBBORNNESS
His inability to change is maddening from his demeanor to his coaching decisions and to his process. It's one thing to stick with a struggling player for a week or two but for christ sake the guy literally started what four or five games and his inability certainly cost us drives. No one player loses a game but the fact we change scheme and offensive approach to mask his inability plays into the loss.
Philbin not only refuses to play younger players but even when the player on the roster infront of them is struggling. That is beyond ridiculous.
Jason Fox actually proved to be very suitable and newflash he was the same when he was in Detroit just struggled with injuries.
CK, is absolutely right reading that news is so ironic and ridiculous it should read "Player Who Coaches Refused to give a Shot, is a High Priority to Bring Back in 2015!"
Dallas Thomas either needs to be backup guard or not on the roster plain and simple.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/01/08/2014-pff-offensive-line-rankings/
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