Id rather look at how he throws and reads a defense, than how he runs. Just sayin...

 

My fav QB prospect from a value standpoint.

 

Cousins is way too streaky. The value may be good, but he is just too hit and miss.


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Underestimating the value of a QB that can both throw and run. Made Cam Newton one of the most productive QBs as a rookie. How RG3 throws and reads defenses can best be seen by watching his actual play during games at Baylor.

 

Amazing some fans are calling for Miami to spend the 8th pick on a QB with only 20 games in college at the position, threw for 15 picks as a senior and needed foot surgery.

 

Luck ran a 4.59 and 4.66 40. Same times as Newton last year. Thats scary.

WR Stephen Hill is going to vault up boards. He was a top 60 guy entering this after running a 4.31 and 4.30 at 6'4" expect him to get in the top 40 even though his college production isnt great. Part of that comes because he played at run happy Georgia Tech but still hes got a size-speed combo that cannot be taught.

WR Chris Gives of Wake Forest looks and performed similar to Antonio Brown. Dropped a 4.37 and 4.40 40. In a pass happy league speed will continue to be a valuable commodity.

WR Alshon Jeffery is supposedly red flagged after not participating in any combine drills other then the weigh and not citing a reason. He measured in at 6'4" and only 216 much lower then the estimated 230-240 he was supposedly going to measure in at. Its a gift if he falls to us in round 2 because I stil have him as the best WR in this draft.

WR Michael Floyd weighed in at 220 at 6'4" and dropped 40 times of 4.42 and 4.44. Probably ceme

Arizona WR Juron Criner turned in "unofficial" forty times of 4.59 and 4.63 at the NFL Scouting Combine Sunday. Hes probably going day 2.

Rutgers WR Mohamed Sanu ran 4.65 unofficially on his first forty-yard dash attempt at the Combine and looks to be a late 2nd-early 3rd round guy.

FA Notes I found on rotoworld:
- Tampa Bay is after Mario Manningham. They have a ton of cap room, former NYG QB coach Mike Sullivan is their new OC and TB needs a vertical threat. The NYG will look to Jerrel Jernigan and Ramses Barden to replace him.
- Chris Mortenson tweeted out that Peyton Manning is looking much better. This will probably be a lightning rod but here is the exact post from rotoworld:
According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, Peyton Manning's performance level is "way on the ascent from where it was two months ago or even a month ago."
Multiple doctors have led Mort to believe that Manning is healthy, "throwing the football well ... and not at risk." Mort's recent comments on Twitter suggest he's also been spoon-fed from the Manning camp. In fairness, though, he was among Manning's biggest skeptics following last offseason's neck surgeries. If these doctors' reports are factual, Manning may not have to wait until after the draft to gain full medical clearance and sign on the dotted line.
- The Dolphins, Seahawks and Skins are looking at the #2 pick for Griffin but the Seahawks see the cost to jump from 12 to 2 as prohibitive and the Skins are still the favorite.
- KC is franchise tagging Bowe
- Falcons are trying to get extensions with Brent Grimes and Matt Ryan done. Grimes is a FA and could get tagged.

 

any info on Foles??

 

Very disappointing!

Arizona QB Nick Foles posted the slowest forty time among signal callers at the Combine, running a 5.14.
He just isn't much of an athlete. In addition to running slow in a straight line, Foles' feet move slowly in his drops and CBS Sports draft analyst Rob Rang reported that he struggled in throwing drills at the Combine.

Was not happy with this news...hes off my board til about round 5 or 6. I think he could still be groomed but hes a late round project at best right now

 

Unfortunately you can't see how he reads a defense from his tape either since the offense he was in rarely asked him to do that. But he throws great and other than below average pocket awareness, you have to love all the "known things" about him. The unknown is a big enough thing for me to consider him a big risk.

 

The guy didnt have enough sense to get a hair cut, he was fu^%in with it before every damn throw, swoop of the head, with his hand, it was ridiculous..Him and Blaine Gabbert should put eye black on each other, even though they don't need it.

Nothing against long hair at all, but when its part of your routine before you throw to move it out your face, its become a unnessesary distraction.

 

sub 4.4 for Miller from the u...absolutely explosive first step..

I wish I could talk myself in to needing a back..Ljames and Miller would be had.I do not understand the grades ive seen on both players especially James...third round my ***.

 

Where would you take L James? For an undersized speed back, not considered an every down, 3rd seems about right. I love this kid btw.

 

I just don't think hes a speed back, hes 5'8 bout 190..I look at him and slot him in terms of playmaking ability and what that would be worth to my team..This kid can do what Warrick Dunn did..The way he follows his blocks thru the interior tells me a lot, tells me he has great vision, the ability to house a intermediate wheel route from 70 yards with sub 4.4 speed, and the ability to pass block tells me defensive coordinators will not be able to know that once he enters the game the ball is automatically going to him..Thats more than the sterotype 3rd down speed back...Plus this kid can return punts..His production and explosive factor would be off the charts hypothetically speaking for a 3rd pick..

If I was a team that needed a running back, I would not look at him as a third down back..and no way would I take the chance of him going in the third, 2nd round all day.

 

Cyrus gray and Davis Wilson..smooth and natural..controlled movement, fast..

 

Steve Mooch drooling over the prospect of having RG in a west coast system...spitttin out superlatives on his ability to retain information..

 

That's where we differ. I don't see enough leg drive or lower body strength. I don't see him as likely to be as effective as Dunn was running inside. I think he's a limited back that needs a spread offense or situational carries to be effective at the next level.

 

I agree in the sense that I'am not gonna beat the the kid to the ground, but I would use him on all three downs in any offense...of course that skillset would be better suited for a more spread, but that doesn't diminish how productive I think he could be and which round I believe his value represents..

Dex Mccluster went in the high 2nd round..

If you knew the production you could get out of a darren sprolies would you wait to take him in the third.?

I realize that his type is usually third round, I just feellike the production in the long run he will give me is 2nd round worthy.

 

You see the guns on Robert Turbin? Geeze, what a physique.

 

yeah and that boy ran a 4.4 I believe... I thought David Wilson was the most impressive.

 

I really like Turner's game, think he can be special tbh Deej.

Also a bit intrigued by Meggett Jr in the later rds.

 

Brandon Taylor from LSU?

 

******* god damn NFL Network. Both times that Tank Carder is ready to run his 40, they go to commercial.:angry::angry::angry:

 

No, I wouldn't take Sproles before the third. As much as I like him, I think you can get that type of back anywhere in the draft. Before the third, I'm looking for backs who I see as potential every down guys. I just don't see that potential in James. I mean he could end up being really productive, but I see him most likely as a good back in a spread and 3rd down back in a conventional offense. The guys I like to take early are less limited.

 

Turbin is a guy that is a Marion Barber clone, IMO. I feel that Jeff would have been all over him in the past two years, but now, with the change in offense, I am not sure we will be looking for a Marion Barber type of power runner.

 

How about Dontari Poe though? 6'5", 348 lbs, 44 reps, 4.89 forty with an amazing ten yard split for his size.

Luke Kuechly blisters a 4.50 with a ridiculous split. Brings up images of Patrick Willis.

 

How about Dontari Poe though? 6'5", 348 lbs, 44 reps, 4.89 forty with an amazing ten yard split for his size.

Luke Kuechly blisters a 4.50 with a ridiculous split. Brings up images of Patrick Willis.

 

Yeah man that's impressive.

 

That's what I was thinking. When a lineman at 350 pounds rips a 4.85 fourty, it's good.

 

I don't think you trade down for Luke Kuechly. He's going high.

 

Spence lifted himself out of a huge contract. Or should I say he couldn't lift himself into one. Every UM game I watched I kept saying he looks so small for a MLB. I say let him plummet and take him low. Pass packages he's be an asset on a guy like Woodhead or Sproles. Instincts and speed without having to hit a huge guy. Anyone thinks he falls to the third?

 

I love me some Spence as well.

 

I'll ask here....thoughts on Lavonte David? TIA


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How about this kid Harrison Smith from Notre Dame we can use another S on our roster especially if YB doesn't return.

 

Let's don't keep improving the numbers or else in a week he'll be said to have run a 4.7. :)

The official time for Poe is 4.98, which is still darned good.

BTW, KB, he is just over 6'4 not 6'5, at 6041.

 

Kuechly's official time was 4.58. Very good, but not equal to Willis' official time of 4.51.

I guess he'd be a safe choice and we need one more good LB, and it would give us pass coverage trio that's sick.

I don't think Luke is a hitter to level that Willis though. He is a reliable wrap up tackler and there is something to be said for that too, when so many players these days try for the shoulder tackle and don't bother to wrap up.

 

Love HS he's just like chancellor out of seattle