Greg Cote: Miami Dolphins’ season hinges on Ryan Tannehill’s emergence
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Sceetoforum_veteranOPhttp://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/greg-cote/article35383278.html
I agree to a point.
all of it starts with Miami’s fourth-year quarterback. Where it ends does, too. Mostly that.
It isn’t on Ndamukong Suh, the high-priced defensive import. Miami won its opener at Washington on Sunday despite the Redskins all but erasing Suh from the game and limiting him to two tackles. That was a nifty reminder that even the greatest defenders can’t do what the right quarterback can, which is why Houston isn’t taking that next step despite having J.J. Watt.
No, this Dolphins season isn’t about Suh or the defense, it isn’t on how well the guards play or how good DeVante Parker becomes. And it isn’t about coaching or bounces or luck.
It is about whether Tannehill can take this team and this city on his back and carry them all the way through January.
Tannehill’s running ability also conveys a toughness and resourcefulness. That and his likability will make him a very, very popular player here if the right kind of winning is added to the recipe
We judge quarterbacks by so much that is measurable, but there is an intangible quality to this position, something you know when you see it even if the describing of it is a challenge.
Your QB doesn’t have to top a 100 passer rating. Doesn’t even necessarily need to make the Pro Bowl every year.
But he does have to be on the right side of this question:
Does your quarterback take what defenses give him … or does he take what he wants?
MikeHonchosubscriberHe's right. It's high time Tannehill placed this town on his back and literally carried us to the playoffs. Not the coaches, coordinators, offensive linemen, receivers, running backs, linebackers, secondary, special teams or kicking specialists. Hell, it's a wonder we even bother fielding a team of 53 grown men, when clearly this all falls on the 4th year starting quarterback.
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PhinFan1968subscriber"lmeister3 wrote:
He's right. It's high time Tannehill placed this town on his back and literally carried us to the playoffs. Not the coaches, coordinators, offensive linemen, receivers, running backs, linebackers, secondary, special teams or kicking specialists. Hell, it's a wonder we even bother fielding a team of 53 grown men, when clearly this all falls on the 4th year starting quarterback.
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He's been doing extra squats after workouts...
Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”
:rimshot:
Stringer BellsubscriberAn NFL teams success hinges on the QB? Thanks for the insight Cote.
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MikeHonchosubscriber"PhinFan1968 wrote:
He's been doing extra squats after workouts...
His quads better have biceps on top of pecs on top of quads. He needs to prove he's a franchise qb.
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jdang307subscriber"Stringer Bell wrote:
An NFL teams success hinges on the QB? Thanks for the insight Cote.
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Plenty of posters in here will disagree with you.
Rock Sextonforum_veteran"jdang307 wrote:
Plenty of posters in here will disagree with you.
QB's are an after-thought. That's why the Trent Dilfers of the world play for the winning team in the Super Bowl every year.
vt_dolfansubscriberLoved this part of the article...and its something I believe in fervantly. Are you a QB who takes what the defense gives you, or are you a QB that takes what he wants.
We NEED Ryan to start playing like he will take what he wants. He isnt playing for a contract. Hes not trying to prove he belongs. He now has mandate. Stop taking what the defense gives you. Put the fear of God into a defense. Its one thing holding him back. Dont care how athletic he is...how strong or smart he is. He has got to WANT to take what he WANTS. If he does not do that...he will never be anything more then a good NFL QB.
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vt_dolfansubscriber"CaribPhin wrote:
See the scrubs who played in the last one? 4x winner Tom Brady and 1x winner, second highest rating in NFL history (after 1,500 attempts) Russell Wilson. I think we should have rolled with Moore and put all of the money into receivers.
Are you delirious? Did you even watch Moore play this pre season? No offense man but your on crack
After reading...again...maybe you were being sarcastic...I hope you were being sarcastic.
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Rock Sextonforum_veteran"vt_dolfan wrote:
Are you delirious? Did you even watch Moore play this pre season? No offense man but your on crack
After reading...again...maybe you were being sarcastic...I hope you were being sarcastic.
He was DEFINITELY being sarcastic lol.
MikeHonchosubscriber"vt_dolfan wrote:
Loved this part of the article...and its something I believe in fervantly. Are you a QB who takes what the defense gives you, or are you a QB that takes what he wants.
We NEED Ryan to start playing like he will take what he wants. He isnt playing for a contract. Hes not trying to prove he belongs. He now has mandate. Stop taking what the defense gives you. Put the fear of God into a defense. Its one thing holding him back. Dont care how athletic he is...how strong or smart he is. He has got to WANT to take what he WANTS. If he does not do that...he will never be anything more then a good NFL QB.
Agreed. Until he has that bonafide fire in the eyes he won't take the next step in his evolution. It's all about developing that killer instinct, because IMO he's already got that "it" factor. Until he can do that, I'm afraid his ceiling is Trent Dilfer.
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QBs matter....IF you have one that is great and are building around the mentality that a top passing game is your ticket.
Non-elite QBs do sometimes get to (and win) Super Bowls, but when they do, evidence suggests it has far more to do with the defense, namely run defense.
Simply put, 21 of the last 22 Super Bowl competitors had either a top-10 passing game or a top-10 run defense. Last year, Miami ranked 17th in passing and 24th in run defense.
It's therefore clear that either the passing game or the run defense needs to get significantly better. I'm inclined to believe that the Dolphins would do better building up their run defense and letting whatever skills Tannehill offers be icing on the cake. That is typically how teams with non-elite QBs get to (and sometimes win) Super Bowls.
Saying that Tannehill is the key to winning is essentially saying that he needs to become Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, or Tom Brady.
Me, personally, I don't think I'm going to take that bet.
Larry Littlesubscriber"vt_dolfan wrote:
Are you delirious? Did you even watch Moore play this pre season? No offense man but your on crack
After reading...again...maybe you were being sarcastic...I hope you were being sarcastic.
He was totally being super serial.
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Fin-OmenalNew Member"lmeister3 wrote:
He's right. It's high time Tannehill placed this town on his back and literally carried us to the playoffs. Not the coaches, coordinators, offensive linemen, receivers, running backs, linebackers, secondary, special teams or kicking specialists. Hell, it's a wonder we even bother fielding a team of 53 grown men, when clearly this all falls on the 4th year starting quarterback.
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He's the one making 100M i thought...guess we shouldnt ask too much of him.
MikeHonchosubscriber"Fin-Omenal wrote:
He's the one making 100M i thought...guess we shouldnt ask too much of him.
But Ross is probably making at least four times that just this season. Old bastard oughta pull his weight too.
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Serpico Jonesforum_veteranCote is a moron.
Fin-OmenalNew Member"lmeister3 wrote:
But Ross is probably making at least four times that just this season. Old bastard oughta pull his weight too.
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I dig the old f--k, he has gotten the top offensive FA 2 out of 4 years and the top Def FA last season..he's a beast.
MikeHonchosubscriber"Fin-Omenal wrote:
I dig the old f--k, he has gotten the top offensive FA 2 out of 4 years and the top Def FA last season..he's a beast.
That's all Mike Tannendong
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"lmeister3 wrote:
Agreed. Until he has that bonafide fire in the eyes he won't take the next step in his evolution. It's all about developing that killer instinct, because IMO he's already got that "it" factor. Until he can do that, I'm afraid his ceiling is Trent Dilfer.
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Interesting...I always associated the "it" factor as the QB having that killer instinct and takes what he wants, not what the defense gives him. You think "it" is something different?
PhinFan1968subscriber"jdang307 wrote:
Plenty of posters in here will disagree with you.
Couldn't help it eh? I understand.
You won't find ANYBODY who will disagree that the QB is integral to the success of the team...to what degree, now there will be some debate. And rightly so...it just gets crazy because some can't see varying degrees in such things, only black and white.
Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”
:rimshot:
PhinFan1968subscriber"Fin-Omenal wrote:
I dig the old f--k, he has gotten the top offensive FA 2 out of 4 years and the top Def FA last season..he's a beast.
All the while keeping Farmer Fred and his rubes.
Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”
:rimshot:
ExplosionsInDaSkyforum_veteranIt's basically what I said earlier. Tannehills mental makeup of the game needs to take the next step.
VanDolPhansubscriberTanny's #'s last year were good enough to get a team into the playoffs. Of course everyone around here and in the media generally give the defense a pass even though they blew plenty of big moments last year and down the stretch were horrible. I don't care who your QB is but your not winning much or going to the playoffs when you allow 39, 13, 28, 41, 35 and 37 points in the final 6 games.
djphinfansubscriberI dont believe he realizes that his team is just waiting for him to go a bit loco.
MAFishFanforum_veteran"VanDolPhan wrote:
Tanny's #'s last year were good enough to get a team into the playoffs. Of course everyone around here and in the media generally give the defense a pass even though they blew plenty of big moments last year and down the stretch were horrible. I don't care who your QB is but your not winning much or going to the playoffs when you allow 39, 13, 28, 41, 35 and 37 points in the final 6 games.
This. 100%. Detroit. Green Bay. Denver. None of those losses were on the offense. But hey. Facts.
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