Greg Rosenthal..."dolphin fans must be thrilled.

The thing I'm blown away by is how he handles pressure, since that's the way NFL defenses typically dismantle rookie QBs.

Remember John Beck? :yes:

"shouright wrote:

Remember John Beck? :yes:

No I do not.

"shouright wrote:

The thing I'm blown away by is how he handles pressure, since that's the way NFL defenses typically dismantle rookie QBs.

Remember John Beck? :yes:

You just don't see this type of third-and-long conversion from the pocket from Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson.

We might have a franchise QB yet.

All I know is, I supported Henne....but whenever we got into a 3rd and long situation....I was NEVER confident we'd convert. Some was play calling. But most was lack in faith for my QB. I don't feel like that with Tannehill behind center. I feel he can/will make the throw to get us the first.

One of the things I've loved most about watching Tannehill is the fact that he barely ever throws a checkdown. He's fun to watch.

The accuracy (ball placement) might be the thing I'm most disappointed in him about. Maybe that's a strong word, disappointed, but it's probably the weakest part of his game.

His handling of pressure was observable at Texas A&M. What I kept saying about him pre-Draft is the reason I ultimately just can't see him being a bust is that ability to handle pressure. It's really a combination of things but the ability to handle pressure and throw on the run which he showed constantly at Texas A&M effectively put a floor under his NFL career. He may not ever become GREAT, but he'll probably never be BAD either. A guy with this size, this arm, this level of accuracy (which isn't necessarily deadly accuracy but not close to 'scattershot' either), with this experience in a pro system, this kind of athleticism...you don't usually see that being a bust but if it is going to be a bust it's because of inability to think quickly and handle pressure. But he had that, clearly, so again I had a tough time imagining him being a bust.

Flip side of it is, we don't know if he's going to be special yet. He's certainly not there yet.

The thing that has pleasantly surprised me the most has been his recognition of coverage and vision of the field in real time after the snap. Disguised coverages don't seem to phase him at all, and he does a really good job seeing what is happening and then translating it into action during the play.

Tanny does seem to have that"wow" factor that cannot always be measured in the stats.He just seems so comfortable out there and gets better each game.

The thing that impresses me most is that week to week he doesn't make the same mistakes, he seems to fix the mistakes or deficiencies in his game very quickly, especially for a rookie. For example, early on I thought he didn't appear to feel pressure in the pocket well, not something that's unusual in a rookie QB to be fair, and often something that I wouldn't expect to improve in just a couple of games. But already I am seeing him step up or slide in the pocket to avoid pressure, and to be far ahead of the curve in adjusting to it.

Henne showed flashes at first that made me think he might he might have it, but there was never any real signs of improvement with him. The mistakes he made early he was still making last year.

Most impressive to me is that he has improved every week. He looks better every time I see him.

I think if there is something I'd like to see him do better at is timing on his throws. He sometimes seems to be a bit late with his throws to receivers. I do however believe it is something that he can and will improve on. He's had an advantage and a rather quick start a lot because of knowing the system and the plays. He isn't learning a system while going thru normal rookie jitters and mistakes...

He is a lot different than what we felt with Henne, imo. In Henne's beginning, a) he'd already been in the system for a year, b) had a mentor in Penny and c) had a working knowledge of the other skilled players at the time he was starting his 4th or 5th game to go along with the year learning the system. I supported Henne, but always felt unsure that he was 'the man'.

I'm not ready to anoint THill as the next "Marino" yet, but he's showing more than any of the plethora of guys that have come since Danny retired...

"SICK wrote:

All I know is, I supported Henne....but whenever we got into a 3rd and long situation....I was NEVER confident we'd convert. Some was play calling. But most was lack in faith for my QB. I don't feel like that with Tannehill behind center. I feel he can/will make the throw to get us the first.

What sucks is when he hits a WR on 3rd and long and no catch is made! He's better than the numbers show and the numbers are impressive for a rookie QB!

"SICK wrote:

All I know is, I supported Henne....but whenever we got into a 3rd and long situation....I was NEVER confident we'd convert. Some was play calling. But most was lack in faith for my QB. I don't feel like that with Tannehill behind center. I feel he can/will make the throw to get us the first.

I was never sold on Henne. He never looked comfortable. Also, it seems an awful lot of hot air was blown about how "they look to me as a leader" and "I believe I'm a leader". When you have to blow your self up like that, you're kind of putting a bullseye on your self-perceived weak point which, not coincidentally, seemed to square with his lack of poise.

I don't see THill as COMMANDING a huddle yet, but there is no question that the first time I saw him in the first preseason game, he had more poise than anything I ever saw out of Henne.

Being late was what caused pick 6

He has improved that but still needs more.

Love where he is at dev wise tho

"Agua wrote:

I was never sold on Henne. He never looked comfortable. Also, it seems an awful lot of hot air was blown about how "they look to me as a leader" and "I believe I'm a leader". When you have to blow your self up like that, you're kind of putting a bullseye on your self-perceived weak point which, not coincidentally, seemed to square with his lack of poise.

I don't see THill as COMMANDING a huddle yet, but there is no question that the first time I saw him in the first preseason game, he had more poise than anything I ever saw out of Henne.

I disagree, I think Tannehill has controlled the huddle. From the moment he took over as starter, the other players did not feel it was a "by default" move because of his draft status....he earned it...and by all accounts from other player interviews they back him 100%, are behind the decision, and trust it's his offense.

"ckparrothead wrote:

The accuracy (ball placement) might be the thing I'm most disappointed in him about. Maybe that's a strong word, disappointed, but it's probably the weakest part of his game.

His handling of pressure was observable at Texas A&M. What I kept saying about him pre-Draft is the reason I ultimately just can't see him being a bust is that ability to handle pressure. It's really a combination of things but the ability to handle pressure and throw on the run which he showed constantly at Texas A&M effectively put a floor under his NFL career. He may not ever become GREAT, but he'll probably never be BAD either. A guy with this size, this arm, this level of accuracy (which isn't necessarily deadly accuracy but not close to 'scattershot' either), with this experience in a pro system, this kind of athleticism...you don't usually see that being a bust but if it is going to be a bust it's because of inability to think quickly and handle pressure. But he had that, clearly, so again I had a tough time imagining him being a bust.

Flip side of it is, we don't know if he's going to be special yet. He's certainly not there yet.

The thing that has pleasantly surprised me the most has been his recognition of coverage and vision of the field in real time after the snap. Disguised coverages don't seem to phase him at all, and he does a really good job seeing what is happening and then translating it into action during the play.

Not disagreeing at all - but are there specific plays / instances that you could point out these issues with his accuracy? I haven't noticed too much one way or the other, but thought he was pretty decent with the ball placement. Seems there's been a few times he's put the ball where only the WR could get it, but the WR didn't go get it (thinking of Hartline sliding in the endzone or reaching out across the sideline also in the endzone).

"PhiNomina wrote:

Not disagreeing at all - but are there specific plays / instances that you could point out these issues with his accuracy? I haven't noticed too much one way or the other, but thought he was pretty decent with the ball placement. Seems there's been a few times he's put the ball where only the WR could get it, but the WR didn't go get it (thinking of Hartline sliding in the endzone or reaching out across the sideline also in the endzone).

I was thinking the same thing. What is it specifically about his ball placement that is weak? If anything, I've felt his accuracy was a thing of beauty, with the exception of the longer throws to the back of the EZ, which almost looked like intentional overthrows because of good coverage.

"ckparrothead wrote:

The accuracy (ball placement) might be the thing I'm most disappointed in him about. Maybe that's a strong word, disappointed, but it's probably the weakest part of his game.

His handling of pressure was observable at Texas A&M. What I kept saying about him pre-Draft is the reason I ultimately just can't see him being a bust is that ability to handle pressure. It's really a combination of things but the ability to handle pressure and throw on the run which he showed constantly at Texas A&M effectively put a floor under his NFL career. He may not ever become GREAT, but he'll probably never be BAD either. A guy with this size, this arm, this level of accuracy (which isn't necessarily deadly accuracy but not close to 'scattershot' either), with this experience in a pro system, this kind of athleticism...you don't usually see that being a bust but if it is going to be a bust it's because of inability to think quickly and handle pressure. But he had that, clearly, so again I had a tough time imagining him being a bust.

Flip side of it is, we don't know if he's going to be special yet. He's certainly not there yet.

The thing that has pleasantly surprised me the most has been his recognition of coverage and vision of the field in real time after the snap. Disguised coverages don't seem to phase him at all, and he does a really good job seeing what is happening and then translating it into action during the play.

I think his ball placement's accuracy irregularities are in large part due to his lack of familiarity with his WRs. His lack of knowledge of his WRs tendencies and movement patterns. The last couple of games, his ball placement has improved IMO.
I was one of his biggest critics post draft, and i must say i was completely wrong.

Given his inexperience and rawness playing the QB position, if we can say this is perhaps the shakiest QB play we will see from him, and he will improve, then the sky is the limit. He should be raw even by rookie standards given his small amounts of competitive snaps at QB in his career. He looks very, very little like the raw prospect we were led to believe he would be.

Just remember at some point hes going to take a few steps backward and have some bad games. Lets not be hard on him when that happens. Year two is the hardest as they have you on tape. Year 3 is where you bloom or bust..

I liked in this last game how on one particular pass play, he did a great job at looking off the Safety, shifted and hit the open man. That was sweet.

"SICK wrote:

All I know is, I supported Henne....but whenever we got into a 3rd and long situation....I was NEVER confident we'd convert. Some was play calling. But most was lack in faith for my QB. I don't feel like that with Tannehill behind center. I feel he can/will make the throw to get us the first.

I feel the same. Third and 12? Grip it and rip it Tanny.

I remember a guy that wore #13. I was more confident when it was 3rd and 12 than I was when it was 3rd and 3.

"unifiedtheory wrote:

I feel the same. Third and 12? Grip it and rip it Tanny.

I remember a guy that wore #13. I was more confident when it was 3rd and 12 than I was when it was 3rd and 3.

Well, can you really blame Henne? Henne would drive the team from our 20 to the opponent 30, get pulled for two wildcard plays that net -5 yards, then face a 3rd and 15. Captain Fistpump didn't do much to breed confidence for Henne.

"Bumrush wrote:

Well, can you really blame Henne? Henne would drive the team from our 20 to the opponent 30, get pulled for two wildcard plays that net -5 yards, then face a 3rd and 15. Captain Fistpump didn't do much to breed confidence for Henne.

Yes I can. He sucked at all third and longs

"SICK wrote:

I disagree, I think Tannehill has controlled the huddle. From the moment he took over as starter, the other players did not feel it was a "by default" move because of his draft status....he earned it...and by all accounts from other player interviews they back him 100%, are behind the decision, and trust it's his offense.

I said COMMANDING a huddle, not controlling a huddle. Think of Peyton or Dan. THill may well get there, but he doesn't appear to have that heavy handedness.