[Grier Retained for 2025, this thread has been locked] Hell yea!Bye Grier!

Conspiracy - this is Ross' final year or two with the team before he either sells or cedes total control. He knows that a rebuild will not do anything in his remaining time in charge, so feels he might as well run it back and hope to get lucky.

Or maybe he is just really good at making bad football decisions, I don't know. I kind of don't care. I already don't buy merch and I'm not a local and have never gone to a game in Miami so ... whatever. Go Lions.

"texanphinatic wrote:

Conspiracy - this is Ross' final year or two with the team before he either sells or cedes total control. He knows that a rebuild will not do anything in his remaining time in charge, so feels he might as well run it back and hope to get lucky.

Or maybe he is just really good at making bad football decisions, I don't know. I kind of don't care. I already don't buy merch and I'm not a local and have never gone to a game in Miami so ... whatever. Go Lions.

Well, in reality, getting lucky with no injuries and better OL play would go a long way for this team. If we had a competent GM I’d be hopeful that they could address the oline issues. Maybe Grier will hit on that for once. (I won’t hold my breath though)

"M1NDCRlME wrote:

Ross is a businessman, he loves money. Let’s show him our displeasure by not opening our wallets to the team until there is real change. let the team play in a nearly empty stadium, don’t buy merch, don’t watch Phins games on TV.

I’m done with this team until they are done with Grier. Grier’s refusal to bring in healthy players, and to build the OL is ****ing criminal. He might be the nicest guy in the world but he sucks dick as a GM.

Ross bought the Dolphins in 2009 for $1.1 billion. That's about $1.6 billion today factoring in inflation. Dolphins are currently valued at $6.2 billion!! The money argument is in Ross' favor because so much of that value is due to media deals at the national level, not local level. The NFL is structured differently than MLB or NBA with revenue sharing from national deals. Ross is happy as hell from the money perspective with the Dolphins no matter what we do. Might as well watch, it won't make a difference.

"texanphinatic wrote:

whatever. Go Lions.

Probably the team I'll be rooting for too. That franchise has suffered as much as any other.

The simple fact is that the Dolphins make Ross a shit ton of money, so there really is no reason to change anything from a business perspective.

"cbrad wrote:

Probably the team I'll be rooting for too. That franchise has suffered as much as any other.

They are the team we should be. Grier and McDaniel need to watch every one of their games from this season (especially tonight). They are everything we are not, from their front office, coaches to the players.

Sadly Grier ( and the HC) are being retained. Ross must be happy with the mediocrity they have brought to the team . Ross is by far the worst owner in the league.

"Alan in England wrote:

Sadly Grier ( and the HC) are being retained. Ross must be happy with the mediocrity they have brought to the team . Ross is by far the worst owner in the league.

Not firing Grier is dumb, but calling Ross the worst owner in the league is crazy. Lol

"cbrad wrote:

Probably the team I'll be rooting for too. That franchise has suffered as much as any other.

Me too, I'm a big Lions fan for the next few months. Motor City Dan got his HC start in Miami so I still think of him as one of us.

"cbrad wrote:

Well this shows where the real problem is: Ross.

And there's nothing we can do about that one.

I disagree...I thought the statement showed a little class when he said that he values continuity. I feel like he's blown up the leadership too quickly in the past and I'm glad we're not hitting the reset button. Because we've seen that show with Tannehill with new offenses every season and that's even more frustrating to me.

Here's my best guess- Hill was done with this team well before the media caught wind of it, and that's why he's been used sparingly. Combine that with Waddle being banged up and that's why TE Smith had such a big year. It was like the Landry season or the Hartline season all over again...they were the only ones available to catch the darn ball consistently. I honestly think Tyreek Hill was our biggest problem this year since his salary could have paid for three quality starters.

The game of football is so complicated because the 53 active players are so critical to compete in 21 games (all the way to the Super Bowl). I believe coaching, scouting, and recruiting are huge in their own rights, but when your four biggest superstars don't produce (Tua, Waddle, Hill, Ramsey) then it's going to be a tough season. I don't think we can "run it back" since Hill has to go, but with an active free agency and a healthy Tua, I still think we have a competitive team.

Anyway, great taking the ride with you guys this season. Until next year!

"M1NDCRlME wrote:

Ross is a businessman, he loves money. Let’s show him our displeasure by not opening our wallets to the team until there is real change. let the team play in a nearly empty stadium, don’t buy merch, don’t watch Phins games on TV.

I’m done with this team until they are done with Grier. Grier’s refusal to bring in healthy players, and to build the OL is ****ing criminal. He might be the nicest guy in the world but he sucks dick as a GM.

Never been any issues with Ross opening up the money for this team.

"dolphin25 wrote:

Never been any issues with Ross opening up the money for this team.

How does one “open up the money”? Do you mean open up his wallet?

"KeyFin wrote:

I disagree...I thought the statement showed a little class when he said that he values continuity. I feel like he's blown up the leadership too quickly in the past and I'm glad we're not hitting the reset button.

He hasn't blown up the GM position often. Grier has been kept far too long.

And I don't think we should have kept any of the HCs, from Sparano, Philbin, Gase to Flores. You seem to think it would have been better to keep those coaches longer! No way.

Continuity for continuity's sake is not a smart strategy. It's like not acknowledging a bad investment and keeping it around longer than you should. McD I'm fine with keeping another year because he's done well overall his first 3 years, but not Grier. This is bad decision-making by Ross.

Guess we can expect the same lame shit from last 3 years.Fighting for 7th seed again.

"pumpdogs wrote:

Guess we can expect the same lame **** from last 3 years.Fighting for 7th seed again.

Now that the season is final, the Dolphins had the WEAKEST schedule in the NFL this season. I don't see how they don't go backwards, especially without Hill stretching the field. They are treading water. Rip the bandaid off!

"pumpdogs wrote:

Guess we can expect the same lame **** from last 3 years.Fighting for 7th seed again.

6 SBs won by WCs in NFL history. Given the number of WC teams per year, that means expectations of us winning the SB should be in the range 1 out of 50 years lol. Don't think I'll last that long haha.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Now that the season is final, the Dolphins had the WEAKEST schedule in the NFL this season. I don't see how they don't go backwards, especially without Hill stretching the field. They are treading water. Rip the bandaid off!

If Tua can learn to play smarter and not get himself injured, we'll probably take a step forward. Maybe not as far forward as we'd like, but it should be better than this year. The guy missed 6 games, and 4 of them were due to his stupid decision making! That's unacceptable.

"cbrad wrote:

6 SBs won by WCs in NFL history. Given the number of WC teams per year, that means expectations of us winning the SB should be in the range 1 out of 50 years lol. Don't think I'll last that long haha.

Me neither!

"cbrad wrote:

If Tua can learn to play smarter and not get himself injured, we'll probably take a step forward. Maybe not as far forward as we'd like, but it should be better than this year. The guy missed 6 games, and 4 of them were due to his stupid decision making! That's unacceptable.

The concussion play wasn't even a bad decision in a vacuum. It's just a bad decision solely for him because he's so very fragile. Ignoring that he's been told time and time again to avoid it, he still does it.

He's the LEAST hit QB when throwing in the NFL already. There's no acceptable amount of hits his body can take. There's no avoiding this. On top of that, he's got this mysterious tear in his hip. He'll probably be done after next season either via injury or the Dolphins moving on.

"cbrad wrote:

If Tua can learn to play smarter and not get himself injured, we'll probably take a step forward. Maybe not as far forward as we'd like, but it should be better than this year. The guy missed 6 games, and 4 of them were due to his stupid decision making! That's unacceptable.

I think it was stupid to put him on IR. He could have just missed 2 games instead of 4 IMO. It's nice to protect players but he needs to play.

"StaleTacos wrote:

Now that the season is final, the Dolphins had the WEAKEST schedule in the NFL this season. I don't see how they don't go backwards, especially without Hill stretching the field. They are treading water. Rip the bandaid off!

Lmfao

All I can do is laugh about this season.

"StaleTacos wrote:

The concussion play wasn't even a bad decision in a vacuum. It's just a bad decision solely for him because he's so very fragile. Ignoring that he's been told time and time again to avoid it, he still does it.

He's the LEAST hit QB when throwing in the NFL already. There's no acceptable amount of hits his body can take. There's no avoiding this. On top of that, he's got this mysterious tear in his hip. He'll probably be done after next season either via injury or the Dolphins moving on.

No he's not. Including sacks, Jackson gets hit 2.7 times per game. Allen and Tua both average 3 hits per game Lawrence was hit 3.2 times per game. I'm sure there are more, but I stopped looking.

So now his injury is a "tear"? Did you get this from a reliable source or just making stuff up, again?

I can't make it another 50 years watching this and hoping for a realistic chance of winning a super bowl.The stench is real.

Just to further emphasize the point of Tua and his lack of being hit but still constantly being injured.

Also read this on Twitter, "Since 2022, Tua has only scrambled 33 times, which is good for 32nd among qualified QBs in that span."

"StaleTacos wrote:

Just to further emphasize the point of Tua and his lack of being hit but still constantly being injured.

Also read this on Twitter, "Since 2022, Tua has only scrambled 33 times, which is good for 32nd among qualified QBs in that span."

Tua Tagovailoa has been hit 210 times since 2020.

Joe Burrow has been hit 452 times since 2020.

Tom Brady has been hit 211 times since 2020.

I’m so tired of this weak, soft, fragile bum. pic.twitter.com/hf9lLtTNC2

— #1 FIN Fan 🐬 (@EliteMarino) January 6, 2025

Get proven wrong and move the goalposts… lmao..

In 2022 alone he rushed 35 times. So… yeah… you’re wrong again. Lmaooooo

Oh… Burrows has missed the same number of games. It’s not about the number of hits, it’s the severity of the hits.