Gase as our coach in 2019, yes or no?
Stick with Adam Gase for one more year?
Poll closed Apr 23, 2019.
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Yes
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No
55.1%
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Any preference for a replacement? -
Yes, for two reasons.
(1) I haven't seen enough consistency at QB/line to know who Gase really is. Give me one more full season with Gase/Tannehill/1st string line. Give this young defense one more season to see what we really have. Then blow it all up in 2020 if we're not a playoff team at that point.
(2) I have little faith in Ross picking a winner the next time around. Philbin was a terrible choice...and Dan Campbell had our guys playing awesome smash-mouth football. Campbell did enough IMO to deserve a full season....that makes Ross 0-2. If you think Gase isn't the guy, then Ross is 0-3. How can you have any faith that coach #4 will be any better? I have more faith in Gase at this point than I do in Ross making the right choice.M1NDCRlME, Phin McCool, texanphinatic and 4 others like this. -
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mbsinmisc, texanphinatic and jdallen1222 like this.
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Right now ... no. He can change my mind, but as of now, I just haven't seen enough.
Gameplans are often messy and insufficient. We seem to get outcoached a lot. We consistently start slow. Injuries on offense are hurting us, but he has failed to properly address QB. Defensively ... yikes. Sticking with Burke was a mistake. Locker room/team dysfunction. Little in the way of on-field results after the first season. Yes, again, injuries, I get it. But just in him being a coach, I haven't really seen progress.
Him putting together an impressive slate of games here could change my mind. I'm not itching to fire him. I won't gnash my teeth if he is back (though if we are stuck with THill again, ffs), but I really don't see a strong "need" to keep on.Redwine4all and KeyFin like this. -
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I don't view the jump to the NFL as too big, but, as you pointed out, culture change is the biggest hurdle.Surfs Up 99 and texanphinatic like this. -
For people criticizing Ross, exactly what do you think is the difference between him and most any other owner?
Imo, there are a few truly godawful owners, but what specifically makes anyone think Ross doesnt possess as much "knowledge" as any other owner or frankly as much as we do? Like, we can hate on Tannenbaum, but the dude is an NFL insider. And ultimately, if he doesnt produce, he will be gone. -
We say great, Ross is willing to invest in the Dolphins....but the only reason he did that was to protect his business investment. Maybe he pouts a little when the Dolphins lose but he has nothing to do with us winning either. He paid $1B for the team and it's estimated "worth" is $2.38 billion. The way approval for the sale goes, maybe he clears $2.5B. We could go 5-11 or 11-5 and the value would pretty much be the same (unless we went deep in the playoffs).
Think about that for a moment- even with the stadium upgrades, Ross will earn 1+ BILLION DOLLARS on top of his 9-years of profits for what he's done in Miami. How could that not piss any sane fan off? -
Owner of the Dolphins who paid for renovations. Now he is famous with prestige. The real value of a NFL franchise is prestige. The Dolphins like any other football team is a famous oil painting.mbsinmisc and texanphinatic like this. -
I agree with you though- it's a "look at me" thing. Well, I looked and he's still funny looking with those big goofy ears.Dol-Fan Dupree likes this. -
I want Gase to stay unless someone like Harbaugh or Fangio wants the job.
I'm also interested in Lincoln Riley out of OK...Irishman and texanphinatic like this. -
Most importantly, I want our next HC to be someone who has done the job before at the NFL level. Our last five head coaches have all been rookies at the NFL level. It hasn't worked. I'm tired of watching guys learn on the job.
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I want Gase and Tannehill to stay. I blame the injuries. Three years in a row of being top 12 in injuries is a curse but one that can't go on forever. I suspect the first year we have a relatively healthy dolphin team is the year we storm through the league. I think he's built a good foundation. Now he needs the opportunity to showcase it. I would bring in an exorcist before I brought in a new coach
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KeyFin likes this.
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At first I felt bad for Gase having his future tied to Tannehill but he seems to want RTH so I don’t know. I think we’ve been plagued with injuries and Gase has at least got us to the playoffs. I’d be interested in seeing one more year. Wish it was with a good QB
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tell nick saban that it's easy to go from college to pros... LOL it's not easy at all. it's a way different beast. If youre a SEC coach going to the NFL, yourNFL players are paid less, and they can't roid up.
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I don't really get what people exactly want from Ross. Hes a checkbook really, and that's all you need or expect.
I get the feeling that most "great" owners are so via revisionist history and luck. Football is such a crapshoot in terms of coaching hires, player drafting, development, injuries, etc. If say THill didn't get injured, we beat Pitt in the playoffs and went back last year and were looking to compete this year? People would be saying hes great.
You want a bad owner, look around at the examples out there. Haslem and Snyder immediately rise up. Jerry Jones. Some are literal criminals. Some are overly meddlesome. Some are both.
It just seems pointless to ***** about a dude who spends money on his team, because hes the one guy you really have no ability to fire.
The value of the franchise rose because the value of the league rose though. Watch what the SeaHawks go for. -
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Last edited: Nov 24, 2018Irishman, resnor and adamprez2003 like this.
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However, Ross is equally as unqualified because he's just a fan like us. He gets reports from people trying to keep their job and then solicits advice from people not even in the organization....which means they're not qualified to give an opinion either. Can you see where I'm going with this? Imagine getting fired at work because your company's owner had a conversation with his neighbor's friend...which acted like he knew everything there was to know about what you do. That's how we pick head coaches and GM's folks....and that sucks for many different reasons.
I want an owner that takes enough of a personal interest that he's not making decisions through third parties. Maybe it's not his job, per se, but he has to be in the building sometimes and actually trying to help sort through the bureaucracy of NFL football.resnor and Surfs Up 99 like this. -
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If Gase wants to live or die with Tanny at QB though? He gets only 2019 to prove it can work.adamprez2003, jdallen1222 and resnor like this. -
Last edited: Nov 24, 2018Puka-head, Phin McCool, Surfs Up 99 and 1 other person like this.
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At this point, just getting Falk developed enough to be a reliable #2 QB would be a win for Miami. It would be amazing to see him turn into a good starter.
Strengths:
- Accurate
- Above-average arm strength
- Good ball placement
- Touch passer
- Enough arm to make all the throws in the NFL
- Rhythm passer
- Pocket presence
- Good timing
- Anticipation
- Will throw into tight windows
- Deadly red-zone passer
Weaknesses:
- Can have issues reading the field
- Will throw into coverage
- Thin frame
- Needs to add weight
- Lacks escapability
- Lacks mobility
- Will need to learn working under center
- Will need to learn calling plays in the huddle
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If you watch his pre-season tape for the Titans, he really didn't make many mistakes. Ball placement was solid and he looked really good in the pocket. I know pre-season doesn't mean anything but I think he's a really good prospect- a lot of folks compare his play to Tom Brady (ironically, they were both drafted 199th overall as well).
Here's his college highlight video threading passes all over the field...the accuracy/release is very impressive but he also has a lot of poise as well-
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I think its interesting how the poll results don't show the overwhelmingly negative narrative I so often see around.
Of course its an EXTREMELY small sample size but still.Irishman likes this. -
That's why I left it open until LATE april and allowed for people to change their votes. If this thread has any legs, the results of this poll could be vastly different come January.
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