Henne, Merling may want to wait to sign deals
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ATVZ400New MemberOPAll three will get done eventually, but there may not be an agreement until late next week at the earliest if the agents for the two second-rounders in particular follow the advice of the NFL Players Association.
The problem Henne and Merling are having with the Dolphins is the same as most second-rounders are having around the league: Because they sign four-year deals and there is no collective bargaining agreement in place for that fourth year (2011), it is creating problems in negotiations.
The problems stem from the fact most second-round deals the past couple of years have included a one-time bonus that was guaranteed in that fourth and final year of the deal
baboo72New MemberThanks ATVZ, I hope they get it done so they don't miss any part of TC.
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LarryfinfanSupporterOnce some other 2nd rounders sign, it'll be easier I think...then they will know what the other guys are doing with the 4th yr of the contract...either accelerating the bonus to the 3rd yr or whatever it may be...
cnc66Luxury BoxHenne better hurry up.. I mean some have him starting opening day because he is SO good...
gunn34New Member"cnc66 wrote:
Henne better hurry up.. I mean some have him starting opening day because he is SO good...
:lol::lol::lol: At a pro-bowl level, no doubt.
this is just ridiculous.... why hold out? you're a 2nd rounder and are only shooting yourself in the foot by doing something like this. :rolleyes:
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SuncoastFinsFanNew Member"cnc66 wrote:
Henne better hurry up.. I mean some have him starting opening day because he is SO good...
...and some having starting opening day because the others are not SO good.
"It is the mark of the educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it". Aristotle
SuncoastFinsFanNew Member"texasPHINSfan wrote:
this is just ridiculous.... why hold out? you're a 2nd rounder and are only shooting yourself in the foot by doing something like this. :rolleyes:
I seriously doubt this gets to the level of a hold out. Merling's situation is complicated by virtue of NE forfeiting their pick and it technically makes him a first rounder. Easy solution...split the difference between what the 32nd and 33rd player's increase would be. Still not talking about a huge amount of money.
Henne, I think will be in. I think the solution there is if he's starting, incentives pay him a "starters" salary. The club could also have an option for the fourth year, and if they choose not to exercise it, he could be a FA.
Neither of these situations is insanely hard to negotiate. The team nor the player is benefited from a hold out, so I think they find a way to get it done.
"It is the mark of the educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it". Aristotle
"SuncoastFinsFan wrote:
I seriously doubt this gets to the level of a hold out. Merling's situation is complicated by virtue of NE forfeiting their pick and it technically makes him a first rounder. Easy solution...split the difference between what the 32nd and 33rd player's increase would be. Still not talking about a huge amount of money.
Henne, I think will be in. I think the solution there is if he's starting, incentives pay him a "starters" salary. The club could also have an option for the fourth year, and if they choose not to exercise it, he could be a FA.
Neither of these situations is insanely hard to negotiate. The team nor the player is benefited from a hold out, so I think they find a way to get it done.
i agree with most everything you said, which is why i think there is no reason they should not already be signed and good to go. :up:
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PhinsRockLuxury Box"cnc66 wrote:
Henne better hurry up.. I mean some have him starting opening day because he is SO good...
Sure fire HOF candidate huh? :lol:
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jdang307SupporterDon't care if Henne holds out (which he won't, who heard of a late 2nd rounder holding out?) because he's going to run the scout team all year!
TheMageGandalfNew Member"cnc66 wrote:
Henne better hurry up.. I mean some have him starting opening day because he is SO good...
:lol:
Seriously though if the kid holds out even one day I believe his shot to start is 0...
...unless you thought his shot was already 0 in which case his shot would be around -10 at that point. :shifty:
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Hopefully they don't take long to sign.
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Like what was said in a earlier post, it doesnt matter because Henne will not start. Neither will Merling. Late second round hold outs.....WTF.:pity:
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Vengeful OdinForum VeteranWell, by my watch, they've got 14 days to get these deals done.
Second Round Holdouts. That's an oxymoron of sorts. Has that ever happened before?
MrCleanSupporter"PhinsRock wrote:
Sure fire HOF candidate huh? :lol:
Just as much so at this point as John Beck
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SuncoastFinsFanNew Member"texasPHINSfan wrote:
i agree with most everything you said, which is why i think there is no reason they should not already be signed and good to go. :up:
I don't disagree in principle, but to the players defense, this is the ONLY time in their careers that they will have ANY leverage with the team. The agents have to explore every opportunity to make the most of it.
I think both will be on time, even if its on the eve of TC. Even though, as you and I both seem to know, because of slotting, this is as much a "charade" by the agent as anything else.
"It is the mark of the educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it". Aristotle
"SuncoastFinsFan wrote:
I don't disagree in principle, but to the players defense, this is the ONLY time in their careers that they will have ANY leverage with the team. The agents have to explore every opportunity to make the most of it.
I think both will be on time, even if its on the eve of TC. Even though, as you and I both seem to know, because of slotting, this is as much a "charade" by the agent as anything else.
you don't know that. If they suck as players and don't warrant another contract in their careers, maybe.... but that is a poor attitude to have, don't you think? to assume you'll be a bust and this will be the only contract you'll get.
at any rate they should also realize that the sooner they get to camp, the more reps they'll get with the team and the greater chance they'll have at becoming a starter.
its a two-way street, and the team has the greater leverage here. a 2nd-rounder has very little clout in negotiations IMO.
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