http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/11/01/2481382/brace-yourself-dolfans-miami-wont.html
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Can't help but agree with the article. That is how it rolls for Miami: down hill, and we reside in the sewer.
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Pretty much. I think we're gonna finish 1-15 and still get screwed.
Barkley and/or Jones better declare and they better not bust.chevy369 and PHINZ4LIFE like this. -
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I saw that article in the morning and I think its fairly realistic .The fans in the SFL club will be disappointed but even if we finish in the bottom 3 we will still get a pretty good franchise QB .:yes:
Its a good draft year for QBsPHINZ4LIFE, SCall13, dirtywhiteboy and 2 others like this. -
Yeah, I would love Luck but I don't think we're going to be in position to get him. So either we trade everything to get him or go with one of the other QB's coming out. I don't mind either way, just get a franchise QB please.
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Maybe, the problem is the others are Jr's as well, we still could end up getting screwed...:evil:
New HC: "Oh I love Chad Henne! Let's take a RT at #3 overall!" -
I will take Brandon Weeden over Laundry because he reminds me of a cross between Bob Griese and Dan Marino. I m not sure what rd Weeden will go but the kid is as good as Jones . here is what i hope happens I hope we can trade down for more picks and get A BIG TIGHTEND , two cb's and a offensive tackle and maybe we should take 2 qb's if posible.
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I really need to go dig up all those threads where everyone told me how stupid it would be to draft Matt Ryan. Chris Long or Jake Long was where it was at! And look at the two teams that drafted them. 0-7 and 1-6. But at least the Rams have hope at the position.
It's only taken a decade or so, but this fan base and the media is finally starting to wake up and realize that you win and lose in today's NFL with the QB. Bottom feeding at the position means you bottom feed in the standings. This team is exactly where it deserves to be for failing to invest a first round pick in over a decade in the most important position on the football field. Failing miserably and hoping to suck terribly enough for Andrew Luck. -
Put Long on IR immediately!
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Missing out on Luck will just cause more resentment, bitterness and hatred from the SFL crowd which seems to be the majority of the fanbase.
First they are pissed we have sucked for so long and then they will be pissed because we didn't suck enough.
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I posted the following in another thread....
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Only one QB in the 2008 NFL draft has shown that he can probably win it all. I'll give you a hint, he's had a better Passer rating than Matt Ryan all but one year, his rookie year. He's had less weapons than Matt Ryan for most of his career. His YPA is consistently higher than Ryan's. He usually gets sacked double Ryan yet still his comparable numbers. He has actually won playoff games, at least one every year he's been in the league actually. His accuracy numbers have consistently been better than Ryan's. He has more career yards in less total passes. He hasn't missed a game. He never had a sophomore slump.
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The newest way to defend the colossal mistake of 2008 is to claim that Matt Ryan isn't a very good QB or isn't worth the number one pick. Using hindsight to determine something that couldn't have been determined in 2008.MonstBlitz likes this.
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I know who.....
The problem with this article is that this team is not 3-4, they're 0-7. Do I think they're better than Cleveland and Denver? Yes, I do and I think if they matched up with either of those teams again - they'd probably come out victorious. But the point is that they don't.
I don't think the talent on this team dictates a 0-16, 1-15 or even a 2-14 record, but the problem with that theory is that they've already blown their most favorable opportunities to notch a win. Where are these wins coming from on the remaining schedule? Washington? Perhaps. Buffalo? Maybe. Dallas on Thanksgiving during a short week? Unlikely. New England? No chance.
Doesn't matter who he's talking about. Even if Flacco was markedly better than Ryan, Ryan was the #1 QB prospect of that draft. I wouldn't expect any FO to have guessed otherwise given their previous body of work. Therefore, I wouldn't question a FO for passing on Flacco at #1 overall but I will and did question this FO for not drafting Ryan. Whether Ryan is an elite QB is yet to be determined. But he's made more impact for the Falcons than Jake Long ever will for us. To claim otherwise is just more defense of this franchise's ignorance at the position for years.
I wasn't on these boards when Culpepper was chosen over Brees. But I'm sure people defended that blunder early on as well. History eventually proves us all either right or wrong. I've been wrong just as many times as I've been right. But since 2005 I've been screaming at the top of my lungs for this franchise to make a real investment in the QB position. And for the time I've been on this board and the other place, there have been at the very least 3 of you for every 1 like me to poo poo the whole notion of spending big on a QB. Too risky. Not a good enough prospect. Etc. Etc.
So here we are. The worst stable of QBs save for maybe the Redskins and not a single win to show for those ****ing "trenches" that were built. But at least there's hope that maybe we as fans and maybe this **** for brains franchise we all love will finally get the memo and draft a mother****ing QB in the first round, Andrew Luck or otherwise.
/end rant...for now
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There may be another Aaron Rodgers or Dan Marino among those second tier QBs .You never know.
Both of those dropped in the draft because they were mis-evaluated by experts.:yes:
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The way I see it, somebody here bears the motherlode of bad luck.
Maybe its the combination of a few cursed fans, that together are overwhelming any hope of good fortune falling our way.
Whatever the case, jinxed, hexed or snakebit to elephantitis proportions, its perpetually dragging any bandwagon beneath them down in the process,
therefore our only chance is for everyone to concentrate on beating our opponents, and hope that we win one before Indy does.
Who knows, at worst it might even qwell the local press from daily SFL stories, and making a mockery of this unfairly debased fandom.
I know you see what is happening here. If we don't get Luck and draft a QB high he will be under tremendous pressure to succeed immediately.
It goes back still having to develop a guy which this fanbase has no time for. Patience wears thin and we go full circle.
I would think if we somehow get Luck the pressure and expectations will be through the roof.
The guy is plug and play with no development needed apparently. :wink2:
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Yep. Joe Flacco. Next thing you're going going to tell me is that Matt Ryan is better than Philip Rivers because he has been in a slump as well.
What do you think has more data points? Their careers to this point? Or the games this season?
Good to know that Flacco hasn't thrown a TD since Week 3 and still only has 1 less than Ryan.
Some of you guys need to just relax.
Were winless and have a tough schedule upcoming yet so many of you are stating you feel there is no way we end up with the top pick.
ridiculous.
I'm not even on the "Suck for Luck" bandwagon and still realize that there's a great chance we end up with that top pick.
Chill out.
Sample size, man. Sample size.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I wouldn't be heartbroken if we took Matt Barkley with the #2 or #3 pick. Landry Jones could turn out to be a nice player, but he seems to have the lowest ceiling of any of the top rated QB's. The perfect Sparano QB.
MB is right. We should have taken Matt Ryan.
The regime tried to build inside out.
It didn't work bro.
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That is true. You always take the QB over the LT, but that's if you think the QB is going to be among the best. You just don't draft one for the sake of drafting one. Personally, I wanted to draft Jake Long, and not Matt Ryan. I didn't see Ryan as a QB that could be among the best.
You got your left tackle and your center in the first round, now it's time to get a 1st Round quarterback...
A decade? try 28 years.
Among the best as a college football player?
Would love to know your criteria to judge that really. How is it you gauge an NFL QB.
The knock is still on Jake that he struggles with speed rushers.
Playing hurt sucks.
I don't give a dang what QB you get you still have a development process.
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I just had a curious thought...
What if the Dolphins hired Bill Cowher or John Gruden (the considered fan favorites here), have the number one draft pick and they chose to draft someone other than Luck?
Hmmm, wouldst thou have faith in thy coach of choice, or wouldst thou take up thy pitchfork and torch and riot in the streets? :tongue:
Shhhh...Dolphin fans actually think Matt Ryan is a franchise QB despite only being able to throw the ball moderately (at best) accurate less than 10 yards. And they actually think without an OL and a crappy group of WRs Ryans completion percentage would be over 55% and YPA over 5.5 as a Dolphin even without Long protecting his blind side. More than likely if Miami drafted Ryan his name would have been synonymous with David Carr and Tim Couch.
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