Holy Heck...Mando Hits a Homerun with latest article...

Can't blame the scouts. Drafting in the first 3 rounds is not about the scouts, it does not take more than being a fan to draft in the first 2 rounds. But he constantly takes an approach of finding acorns which is what you do in the 7th round and FA. He is an idiot and needs to go. The right GM will show up for the first 2-3 rounds to prevent needs, coaches, scouts from having any input, and he will draft big name big college big playmakers, and then he will go home and let other draft the rest of the way.

Honestly this is just Armando continuing his effort to see Philbin and the coaching staff fired while keeping Jeff Ireland. He's been completely transparent about this for months. His position is IF Jeff Ireland goes (and he shouldn't) then the Dolphins need to clean sweep everyone.

And with this piece he's essentially trying to get a football czar hired to oversee Philbin and Ireland. Which of course assumes Ireland stays.

I just can't get into the meat of it with such a big game 2maro..see ya back here Monday.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Honestly this is just Armando continuing his effort to see Philbin and the coaching staff fired while keeping Jeff Ireland. He's been completely transparent about this for months. His position is IF Jeff Ireland goes (and he shouldn't) then the Dolphins need to clean sweep everyone.

And with this piece he's essentially trying to get a football czar hired to oversee Philbin and Ireland. Which of course assumes Ireland stays.

CK...just to clarify...you DONT think Ireland should go?

Also..how much of a role does a scouting department have in finding the correct players to draft? Is the first few rounds as easy as what some seem to suggest, IYO?

"vt_dolfan wrote:

CK...just to clarify...you DONT think Ireland should go?

Also..how much of a role does a scouting department have in finding the correct players to draft? Is the first few rounds as easy as what some seem to suggest, IYO?

I think Ireland should go. What I'm saying is that for months Armando has backed Ireland and gone like an attack dog after Philbin, Aponte, the assistant coaches, pretty much everyone.not named Ireland. Sometimes he's quoted sources that said flat out untrue things, such as one source referring to the players defending Richie Incognito as "a revolt" against Philbin. He quietly edited that blog post once it came out that Philbin told the players specifically to defend themselves that day, giving them permission to comment. Armando just erased the "revolt" accusation from his source altogether as if it never happened.

His critiques of Ireland have been powder puff, meant only to try and walk a tenuous line between straight up advocating for him and giving the guise of objectivity. That's where this "if Ireland goes, Philbin and everyone else have to go too" thing comes from. If everyone is fired then it looks better for Ireland as he seeks new employment. He can say in his interviews that they just hired the wrong coach and he got caught up in the consequences. If HE is fired and the coach is not, that looks bad for him as he seeks employment elsewhere. It gives everyone the impression that the owner reviewed everything and decided that he individually was the problem.

So, on the heels of articles blasting Philbin, blasting Aponte, an article explaining that Jonathan Martin was approved by everyone in the draft room including and especially Philbin and Ross, an article that cane DANN CLOSE to implying an improper relationship between Philbin and Aponte, an article going full attack dog on Jim Turner for the offensive line woes (as if the talent acquisition at that spot has nothing to do with the results), and a continuing narrative throughout suggesting that if Ireland goes then everyone has to go...now we have an article that found a head hunter who said some things that are probably quoted out of context suggesting that it's difficult to find a qualified GM and you shouldn't fire your GM as easily as your head coach. BIG SURPRISE THERE. Armando turns that into a suggestion that the Dolphins need to hire Carl Peterson (who originally hired Jeff Ireland as a scout in Kansas City) to be the team Czar and oversee Ireland and Philbin (who conveniently keep their jobs).

Ohhhh..got ya. Thanks CK.

"djphinfan wrote:

I just can't get into the meat of it with such a big game 2maro..see ya back here Monday.

Seriously!!!

Huge games coming up in the next few weeks. I can understand a reporter doing his job but as a fan of the team I don't understand why Ireland is even on anyone's mind at this point.

There are a lot of moving parts to this situation and these types of articles. We have another one out there with Omar advocating gutting the organization if we don't go 9-7. And the team, with their archaic media policies, are partially responsible for their portrayal in the media.

The way this team is portrayed you would think they are 1-9 and in the gutter with Jacksonville. This as opposed to being 5-5, coming off a huge conference win and with another big season defining game tomorrow.

What I think can reasonably be assumed is that Ireland and Philbin are not in sync in terms of running the team. I see a divorce coming similar to what occurred in Pittsburgh in the early 2000's. Here, like what happened there, I see the coach winning out and actually increasing his influence over the team.

Until the investigations are complete and the season over, there is no way to really do anything but speculate and write stuff that has no foundation to suggest anything.

"GMJohnson wrote:

Seriously!!!

Huge games coming up in the next few weeks. I can understand a reporter doing his job but as a fan of the team I don't understand why Ireland is even on anyone's mind at this point.

Could be because he provided the team with the rotating chairs with the 475# Gorillas sitting around in the locker room - and trying to play as an offensive line. As much as I defended Ireland before, with the offensive line fubar we have had this year, when fans see the pace for sacks allowed which looks like a waterfall as well as a sporadic, at best, running game - How can Ireland not be on the minds of the fans - except possibly during the course of the game..?

Ross needs advice and the wisdom to implement that advice so that the direction of this franchise can turn and the fans that lately have been upset or, worse, increasingly apathetic about the Dolphins, can have something to believe in once again.

So, today I offer Stephen Ross advice. No, not my advice, although he could probably use that, too.

Yeah....no.

"rtl1334 wrote:

There are a lot of moving parts to this situation and these types of articles. We have another one out there with Omar advocating gutting the organization if we don't go 9-7. And the team, with their archaic media policies, are partially responsible for their portrayal in the media.

The way this team is portrayed you would think they are 1-9 and in the gutter with Jacksonville. This as opposed to being 5-5, coming off a huge conference win and with another big season defining game tomorrow.

What I think can reasonably be assumed is that Ireland and Philbin are not in sync in terms of running the team. I see a divorce coming similar to what occurred in Pittsburgh in the early 2000's. Here, like what happened there, I see the coach winning out and actually increasing his influence over the team.

Le Batard hinted on his radio show on Friday that he's heard Philbin and Ireland don't get along.

"ckparrothead wrote:

Honestly this is just Armando continuing his effort to see Philbin and the coaching staff fired while keeping Jeff Ireland. He's been completely transparent about this for months. His position is IF Jeff Ireland goes (and he shouldn't) then the Dolphins need to clean sweep everyone.

And with this piece he's essentially trying to get a football czar hired to oversee Philbin and Ireland. Which of course assumes Ireland stays.

So where does the Ireland bias come from then with all the off-field destructive PR? Why does Armando show so much support for a GM that quite frankly is at the centre of the storm? Football CZAR? This isnt a national drugs problem or crime gang.

"FanMarino wrote:

So where does the Ireland bias come from then with all the off-field destructive PR? Why does Armando show so much support for a GM that quite frankly is at the centre of the storm? Football CZAR? This isnt a national drugs problem or crime gang.

Ireland and Armando are friends. Ireland is Salguero's main source in the building.

"Serpico Jones wrote:

Ireland and Armando are friends. Ireland is Salguero's main source in the building.

Basically then its a totally biased opinion based on Armando and his career and not on the general picture? I get it.

"Serpico Jones wrote:

Le Batard hinted on his radio show on Friday that he's heard Philbin and Ireland don't get along.

Well Mike McCarthy spoke glowingly of Philbin recently and in the past. I doubt Ireland has anyone of that statute in the league that will vouch for him like that.

The sad reality is that the tepid nature of their relationship has leaked into the consciousness of the fanbase and the media so you can speculate how bad it actually is behind closed doors.

I also believe that it is imperative that Aponte and Philbin learn how to manipulate the local media better. Setting up draconian policies and ignoring the local beat writers isn't helping. You know it's bad when the mild mannered Barry Jackson starts taking some shots at Philbin like he has in recent weeks.

anyone who thinks ireland should not be fired is an incompetent fool.

Phins_Fan_87:
big words! hope you didn't really mean what you posted.
personally, I'm in favor of keeping Ireland & I'm neither incompetent nor a fool. I'm sure there are others who might find your post a bit hubris too!:yes:

"rtl1334 wrote:

There are a lot of moving parts to this situation and these types of articles. We have another one out there with Omar advocating gutting the organization if we don't go 9-7. And the team, with their archaic media policies, are partially responsible for their portrayal in the media.

The way this team is portrayed you would think they are 1-9 and in the gutter with Jacksonville. This as opposed to being 5-5, coming off a huge conference win and with another big season defining game tomorrow.

What I think can reasonably be assumed is that Ireland and Philbin are not in sync in terms of running the team. I see a divorce coming similar to what occurred in Pittsburgh in the early 2000's. Here, like what happened there, I see the coach winning out and actually increasing his influence over the team.

This town is a cesspool of beat writers who don't know sh&$ about football but everything about being a shock jock.

"ckparrothead wrote:

I think Ireland should go. What I'm saying is that for months Armando has backed Ireland and gone like an attack dog after Philbin, Aponte, the assistant coaches, pretty much everyone.not named Ireland. Sometimes he's quoted sources that said flat out untrue things, such as one source referring to the players defending Richie Incognito as "a revolt" against Philbin. He quietly edited that blog post once it came out that Philbin told the players specifically to defend themselves that day, giving them permission to comment. Armando just erased the "revolt" accusation from his source altogether as if it never happened.

His critiques of Ireland have been powder puff, meant only to try and walk a tenuous line between straight up advocating for him and giving the guise of objectivity. That's where this "if Ireland goes, Philbin and everyone else have to go too" thing comes from. If everyone is fired then it looks better for Ireland as he seeks new employment. He can say in his interviews that they just hired the wrong coach and he got caught up in the consequences. If HE is fired and the coach is not, that looks bad for him as he seeks employment elsewhere. It gives everyone the impression that the owner reviewed everything and decided that he individually was the problem.

So, on the heels of articles blasting Philbin, blasting Aponte, an article explaining that Jonathan Martin was approved by everyone in the draft room including and especially Philbin and Ross, an article that cane DANN CLOSE to implying an improper relationship between Philbin and Aponte, an article going full attack dog on Jim Turner for the offensive line woes (as if the talent acquisition at that spot has nothing to do with the results), and a continuing narrative throughout suggesting that if Ireland goes then everyone has to go...now we have an article that found a head hunter who said some things that are probably quoted out of context suggesting that it's difficult to find a qualified GM and you shouldn't fire your GM as easily as your head coach. BIG SURPRISE THERE. Armando turns that into a suggestion that the Dolphins need to hire Carl Peterson (who originally hired Jeff Ireland as a scout in Kansas City) to be the team Czar and oversee Ireland and Philbin (who conveniently keep their jobs).

"Serpico Jones wrote:

Ireland and Armando are friends. Ireland is Salguero's main source in the building.

So, in a way, Armando is trying to help himself too. It makes his job harder if Ireland is fired.

"the 23rd wrote:

Phins_Fan_87:
big words! hope you didn't really mean what you posted.
personally, I'm in favor of keeping Ireland & I'm neither incompetent nor a fool. I'm sure there are others who might find your post a bit hubris too!:yes:

Ireland needs to go. Last year he drafted a QB in the 1st round and then openly admits to Peter King that he has no real weapons to throw to. This year he has assembled the worst OL I have ever seen. What else do you need?

I was wondering how long it would be before one of the local writers threw Carl Peterson's name out there.

Despite Armando's bias, I do think the article is fairly credible since he used the quotes of a known head hunter, though he did obviously slant it towards how hard it is to hire a qualified GM. Makes me wonder what quotes he left out, considering that Jeff Ireland himself is not a qualified GM.