Tannehill seems quite smart with it. I don't recall him getting hit much running the ball recently.

If he can continue just taking what's there and avoiding big hits then I would definitely keep it in the game plan

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I still firmly believe that the bolded part is the key. When you are only running it a few times a game, you catch the defense off guard. When it's the focal part of your offense like with RGIII, the defense is keying on it and you get your QB killed. I do not want to see it anymore that what we saw yesterday. I'm very happy with Tannehill's developing pocket presence. If we want to win a championship, it's from Tannehill passing from the pocket with the occasional read-option to keep the defense guessing.

 

I think they ran it a handful of times, most notably the big run by tann, I thought down on the goal line tann should have kept it instead of giving it to Thomas but it's really tann's call.. I'm not big on tann keeping it much more than the one time a game like he did.. A wrinkle not a game plan.. When guys like tann keep it it upsets the balance of the defense, when guys like rg3 keep it it's expected... Play calling is getting better..

 

I agree, it doesn't need to become a bread and butter play. Twice a game is about the limit in my opinion. It's too risky and like you said just look at what it did to Robert Griffin iii.

 

sherman ran it at the perfect times. if he can sprinkle it into the game plan maybe 3 or 4 times a game it can be productive.

 

I don't think there is a max or lower limit. Even after the big run they didn't cover Tannehill. I was disappointed he didn't keep it again.

Say what you want about RGIII but his issue is not sliding, I've never seen Ryan put himself in danger the way RGIII does.

 

I often see Tannehill out in the open where he could easily run for a first down yet he decides to throw.

This guy certainly should have more designed runs thrown into the playbook.

 

I think quarterback running plays should be a little more frequent, but I think the option stuff needs to be something sprung from time to time with the hope that the team didn't really work on defending it and don't expect it.

They seemed a little more committed to it than that yesterday, it seemed like they went into it ready to beat defensive adjustments(scrape exchanges) with a fullback.

 

I think Cam Newton is a great example of what we could do with Ryan. He's another guy who runs SMART and not reckless like RGIII or Vick.

 

We've had to go to some read-option because our traditional handoff run game has been bad this season. Implementing it is a necessity at this point or else we'll get very few yards at all on the ground. I think you also have a case where the Steelers have been gashed by the read-option (Oakland), so it's just something the weekly matchup dictated.

Moving forward into the next few seasons, if we can get a legit feature back and find consistency running it on first down, then the read-option will disappear from the playbook, imo. Or at least it should.

 

absolutely shocked they didn´t ran this play more often, 3-4 well timed could help

 

I was screaming at the TV calling for at least a look at it on the goal line. But instead, we basically ran three identical plays with identical results. I looked at my wife and said "Three Dives, No Yards. Field goal!" Not even an attempt at a play action! EGAD!

 

That was by design. The Steelers had a Timeout and the 2 minute. You throw an incompletion there and that's basically another timeout. On 4th down they were able to run down to clock to about a minute. Forcing the Steelers to go 80 yards or so in the snow with no timeouts is a good bet, especially with the Dolphin pass rush. Philbin even said it himself.

It pretty much worked except for that freak Stanford Band Play.

 

Like OhioFan said, i'm all for it if they keep it to a few (2-3) times a game. It's just one more thing for the defense to worry about, and the element of surprise seems to really help.

 

Yeah...I think that goal line situation really needed a play with a read option or jet sweep or something...direct the blocking and runner to the left, give tanne a read option to rollout to the right, and sneak a TE for a throw... if the freebie pass or walk into the goal line isnt there, just have tanne try to pick up a few yards to the right and slide if nothing else. With the way Pitt was attacking and pinning back the ears in the 4th quarter, I would have loved to see something like this at that game end scenario. Would have given a better chance to end the game than risk the mess we did instead.

Outside of that...the use that sprinkled in was perfect. Wouldn't want too much more - but splash it in to keep them guessing. Glad we finally started using it though

 

The problem is this is definitely something Big Ben can do.
If you go up by 10 the game is over.

 

I feel like Tannehill gets hit more in the pocket then when he runs the read option.

Keep it going. Lets get to the playoffs!

 

as i have said in the rant forum, "what's the point of having a qb with 4.5 speed if he doesnt use it every now and then?" a couple read option plays per game isnt going to kill him. hell, he gets roughed up more with all the sacks he takes. just gotta learn to slide and run out of bounds.

 

exactly

 

I don't think that TD run we had happens if the end/olb wasn't sitting outside waiting to see if RT keeps it. I thought there were maybe one or two times where RT should have kept it, but just the threat of it is useful.

 

I think we need to run it 3-7 times a game.

 

and not knowing how to fall to prevent injury.

 

Completely agree. Our QB has a certain skillset and we would be remiss if we didnt take advantage of his talents. Hes got wheels and smarts, two capabilities that go well together when running the read option. We dont need to turn it into a Wildcat, but its another tool in our toolbox.

 

I definitely think we should use it more, especially in short yardage situations. If you run it 6-7 times, Tannehill may be keeping it only 2-3. It has been shown that not only can it be an effective play, it can be a very big play. And the risk level is low if the QB has good judgment about when he keeps it and how he runs when he does keep it. I think we should pass off the run more often too. That's not an easy thing to perfect, but it can be deadly (see the game tying TD by Auburn against Alabama).

 

Gives NE something they have to prepare for this week and that is a plus . Sure we will utilize that going forward , personally i would like it a bit more but not where it becomes predictable.

One of the comments yesterday during the broadcast was complimenting 17 on how he runs , can't recall it exactly but along the lines of him being fluid and natural . I would say that is very accurate , he doesn't look herky jerky or necessarily sudden but he can be very effective.

 

Yeah, I was almost shocked when I saw that, but Tanny has to work on it...later in the game, he misread the DE and gave it to Thomas when he should have taken it himself... Either way, I'm glad to see us do something different. It may help the run game in general if we used it more...

 

Could be. And when we have had the kind of short yardage running problems and pass protection issues we have had, using the read option more makes a lot of sense. It's a capability that we have that really hasn't been exploited much but which can potentially boost this offense significantly. As has been discussed to death in the other thread, I don't think Wallace opens up the offense or makes other receivers better, but I do think he is a guy who opposing corners can't risk even pausing to think about run defending on the edge when we do the read option. If they do there are some potential big plays to be had with a read option fake to the RB and then Tannehill rolling to his right and looking for Wallace downfield.

 

True. In that case, the guy bit on the fake so hard that Clay was wide open and Tannehill didn't even need to pretend like he was going to keep it. But if the LB hadn't bit on the ball fake and stayed with Clay, that would have been a great example of a situation where Tannehill keeping it and running to the right would have forced the LB to decide to either stay with clay or try to stop the Tannehill run. And there's no good choice for the defender there.

 

I think the announcer was quoting Tomlin who said that Tannehill was an easy runner is what I believe he said.

 

definitely gives NE something to think about :shifty: