Great win and I'd much rather talk all week about the win and all the positives.....
That said, In the heat of battle and when the game was still very much in question, was anyone else saying (ie. yelling, screaming, throwing things) Here we go again with Patriots and the officials!!
The two calls that REALLY stood out to me and questioned the refs intentions/integrity were;
1) The no call PI against Hartline on a throw to the sidelines. Patriots defender had him in a head lock as the ball flew by... this was as blatant as it gets. Forced a punt, would have obviously been an automatic first down. It was a big play/change of possession.
2) An even more egregious no call was Bandon LaFell climbing on Finnengan's back and intentionally grabbing him by the helmet as he broke for an INT along the other sideline. Definition of a mugging and had me irate.
Not a point of emphasis because we won, but had things ended differently, can anyone here justify how these calls were missed? Or do you just chalk it up to the Patriots, the refs, and the NFL.... nothing new.
There were a couple other notables calls that went the Patriots way.... but were more tic tac penalties and weren't blatant.
- The Finnegan illegal contact penalty where the receiver (just barely) ran into him and Finn appeared to be standing still. Finn didn't even extend his arms or jam him.
- It appeared Hartline was shielded on a fade route to the back of the end zone. The DB made absolutely no attempt to turn for the ball. (although contact was minor)
In being objective. I have to point out Miami did benefit from the refs protecting Tannehill a couple times. The late flag on the hit to the head was a close call. It appeared Jones' arm hit Tannehill more in the shoulder, even though he did swing his arms high in the direction of Tanny's helmet. And Miami benefitted from a driving the QB into the turf penalty in the first half. Justified penalty, but that call is always subjective to begin with.
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I love how people continue to claim the Pats get special treatment when we were penalized 10 times for something like over 100 yards.
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We got a few calls I wouldn't have expected against them. I did think they missed a couple, especially with tge new emphasis on degensive contact. However overall I was never furious about officiating during the game as I had been in the past.
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Please explain which Penalties you thought were blatantly bad calls against the Patriots?
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Complain about the roughing call all you'd like, but it's completely in line with how the rule is enforced, and has been for some time. It's on the coaching staff to teach what to do, and what not to do, and it's on the player not to do it(and certainly not to repeat it like a dumbass)
The Dolphins getting hosed on pass interference/contact calls is quite different given that the NFL made a huge deal about cracking down on them, and when push comes to shove they enforced it very liberally.unluckyluciano, Kud_II, MikeHoncho and 4 others like this. -
Of course. The Pats should get penalized for 200 yards each game, and if they don't then that must mean they get special treatment.
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Our pass rushers have been coached to be disciplined enough to not hit the QB high. With Wheeler out, the most likely culprit for high hits, they did a great job of getting their hits on Brady around the midsection. There were a couple of hits that really softened him up where it was a shoulder pad to the belly just as the pass was thrown.
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From the Tuck Rule to last year's abortion of a call against us when we were trying to pick up a fumble, you have no right to get indignant about the refs felating you guys.mbsinmisc, Larry Little, Unlucky 13 and 1 other person like this. -
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Did anyone see the refs helping Tannehill up after he got hit? I didnt look but I never noticed it. I know the refs were right there with an open arm to Brady every time he was on the ground.
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I was shaking my head!
Gumble: "Have you ever seen a ref pick a quarterback up like that?
Green: " You don't see that, I know no refs ever picked me out of the turf!"Puka-head likes this. -
Many of those were blatant, indefensible errors by the refs. That's kind of obvious when the Pats' fan resorts to exaggeration and the old "there have been calls that went against us over the years" defense. I expect that the refs responsible will be graded poorly and the Dolphins will receive one of those league apology letters.
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The Patriots have gotten away with some absolutely historic bad/non-calls. That's relevant when you're bringing up a game where they got the benefit of bad referring. -
Loved watching the Dolphins Beat up the Pats. Hope they do the same with the Jets twice this season. Miami looks to be the strongest team in their division after week 1.
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[video=youtube;SldglIpy6wM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SldglIpy6wM[/video]
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I don't know what's worse; the Patriots' second-half meltdown on Sunday or a neckbearded, Patriots fan version of the guy that Matt Damon owns in Good Will Hunting making sorry excuses like "we took you guys lightly."
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Anyways, it was you who made the claim that the Pats get preferential treatment. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to show that the Pats get calls in their favor more than other teams. -
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[video=youtube;7ypnZqI_kIo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ypnZqI_kIo[/video]
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I used to be a perpetual "ref hater" since so many calls are missed against us, and the two penalties to Hartline did have me irate. Then I realized something though; what good does it do to get pissed over refs missing a call? Regardless of whether or not they did it intentionally, there is zero recourse except to see the league hand out those nice little fines....which that defender certainly deserved after trying to tear Hartline's neck off. I don't linger on it anymore though because it's a part of football....you have to win DESPITE the calls on the field. If we lose because of a blown call, then we really need to look at those 15+ other wasted drives and find something more important to blame. That's what good teams do.
It's sort of like Dana White and the Ultimate Fighter...every season he tells everybody, "You're an idiot if you let 3 refs decide your fate. If you want to win, then win, and don't leave it in the hands of the judges." I now have the same outlook on the NFL.
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