Interesting Power Rankings/Very Favorable To The Dolphins

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Phoenician FanPhoenician Fanforum_veteranOP
Oct 25, 2014, 09:22 AM

http://online.wsj.com/articles/nfl-week-8-power-rankings-and-picks-1414188267

7th......Wow!

Patriots 9th.............This would mean they have us favorites to win our division.

Sorry, I would like to embrace this, but there just too much history.

ASOTASOTNew Member
Oct 25, 2014, 09:40 AM

While a nice thing to do, I think the official NFL ranking is about right at this point....# 17. If we played NE 6 weeks in a row, they probably win 4 of them, while we are improved we are still their b*tch.....unfortunately

CashInFistCashInFistforum_veteran
Oct 25, 2014, 09:47 AM

"ASOT wrote:

While a nice thing to do, I think the official NFL ranking is about right at this point....# 17. If we played NE 6 weeks in a row, they probably win 4 of them, while we are improved we are still their b*tch.....unfortunately

I disagree. I think we match up very favorably, and we would win 4 out of 6 against them.

PhinFan1968PhinFan1968subscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 09:48 AM

So based solely off of their rating system, the Dolphins have a good chance to go 8-2 through the rest of the season...pretty close to the 7-3 I'm expecting.

More fodder for the "what if" wonderings...this seems more like a "this team has such-and-such potential" listing...and we know the P word...

Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”

:rimshot:

Stringer BellStringer Bellsubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 09:50 AM

This shouldn't be a surprise. Statistically the Dolphins have the best defense in the league.

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ROroy_miamiforum_veteran
Oct 25, 2014, 09:56 AM

"Stringer Bell wrote:

This shouldn't be a surprise. Statistically the Dolphins have the best defense in the league.

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True. Why does Philbin get zero credit for that again?

ROroy_miamiforum_veteran
Oct 25, 2014, 10:48 AM

"CaribPhin wrote:

Because he's not the coordinator and it has a lot to do with personnel he met on the team?

He's not the coordinator on offense either but that doesn't stop people from piling most of the blame on him. Belichick isn't the offensive coordinator in New England but he gets a lot of the credit for that teams offensive success.

And it is Philbin's philosophy that resulted in us putting most of our resources into stopping the pass first and foremost. Just like on offense we put most of our resources into helping the passing game. Clearly Philbin is of the belief that if you can pass effectively and stop the pass effectively, the running game will take care of itself.

PhinFan1968PhinFan1968subscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 10:53 AM

I give him credit for it...but no more credit than the DC and coaches. Team effort. From what I can tell, he hasn't individually done anything to derail it. He's managed to not allow the defensive coaching/player arguments to spread and become a cancer, so there's that too.

Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”

:rimshot:

pennphinfanpennphinfanforum_veteran
Oct 25, 2014, 11:06 AM

Their model has a total predictive record of 16-20-1... is that better than others? Don't think it is..

HobiesailorHobiesailorsubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 11:42 AM

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

I give him credit for it...but no more credit than the DC and coaches. Team effort. From what I can tell, he hasn't individually done anything to derail it. He's managed to not allow the defensive coaching/player arguments to spread and become a cancer, so there's that too.

There is a reason that there is an offensive and defensive coordinator. The Head coach shouldn't have his hands in the day to day of those units. Your head coach should be the guy that puts out his vision and expectations and lets the coordinators execute it how they deem fit. The head coach should be the Quality Assurance guy, only stepping in when the coordinator needs help, or when the coordinator's execution isn't producing the vision that the Head Coach wants.

After all the dis-function over the last 10 years, its nice to see the leadership working together and not infighting and bickering. For as much crap that Philbin has been given for being stoic and "hands off", he has produced a working climate that allows for Lazor and Coyle to produce to units that are, mostly, working well and adapting.

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MikeHonchoMikeHonchosubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 11:49 AM

Let's not count our chickens based on power rankings. When have we ever seriously regarded power rankings?

Headcoach material wouldn’t want to work somewhere they’re not trusted with actual football decisions.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Oct 25, 2014, 12:25 PM

Too high IMO.

Oct 25, 2014, 03:58 PM

"ASOT wrote:

While a nice thing to do, I think the official NFL ranking is about right at this point....# 17. If we played NE 6 weeks in a row, they probably win 4 of them, while we are improved we are still their b*tch.....unfortunately

Your living in the past. Join us in the now. The Facts : 4/6 = 2/3, which is actually our current success rate against them. 2/2 more recently. Not to mention we are (arguably) on the rise, while they continue their slow descent.A Team with an average at best O-line, a statue of a Qb, poor running game, minimal pass rush etc. is more likely to be made our *****.

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 04:12 PM

"Philbinfan wrote:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/nfl-week-8-power-rankings-and-picks-1414188267

7th......Wow!

Patriots 9th.............This would mean they have us favorites to win our division.

Sorry, I would like to embrace this, but there just too much history.

Division rivals cancel out most logic in this type of discussion. Nearly all games with our division rivals are almost impossible to predict. While this team is playing well, the O has found a niche and the D is pretty stingy (despite giving the GB game away). Our D is probably playing a bit better than the pasties right now and the last few games the O has done well, but we have a history of being up and down, particularly in the division...that is not up when you would think we would be. I just don't buy what Philbin and the fins are selling YET....another few good games strung together and I may change, but they've made fools of me before...

And as I've said before, while I believe the armor in the pasties uniforms is certainly chinked at this point (they aren't the team they've been in the past), they still haven't been knocked off the heap yet...

TooGoodForDezTooGoodForDezNew Member
Oct 25, 2014, 04:18 PM

If it wasn't for Lazor's play calling Phins would be 5-1 at worst. They are that good, but you have to take into account the dumbass OC, so 7 is too high.

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speedspeedNew Member
Oct 25, 2014, 04:34 PM

I like it!

ROroy_miamiforum_veteran
Oct 25, 2014, 05:00 PM

"TooGoodForDez wrote:

If it wasn't for Lazor's play calling Phins would be 5-1 at worst. They are that good, but you have to take into account the dumbass OC, so 7 is too high.

wat?

Stringer BellStringer Bellsubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 05:45 PM

"roy_miami wrote:

True. Why does Philbin get zero credit for that again?

Philbin gets 100% of the credit for being 3-3. He is in charge of everything, so he is judged on the totality of it.

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djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 05:46 PM

best three and three team..if we had moreno on this team moving forward, i would feel outstanding about our chances to win 10 games.

I want to make a move for a back, I think we need a back.

i guess we will be promoting lamike james

7777FinFansubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 05:54 PM

"djphinfan wrote:

best three and three team..if we had moreno on this team moving forward, i would feel outstanding about our chances to win 10 games.

I want to make a move for a back, I think we need a back.

i guess we will be promoting lamike james

After reading somewhere about him dancing around and being tentative that doesn't inspire confidence. Hope Miller stays healthy and D Williams steps up. I guess I have to root for what's his face again.

PhinFan1968PhinFan1968subscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 06:01 PM

"77FinFan wrote:

After reading somewhere about him dancing around and being tentative that doesn't inspire confidence. Hope Miller stays healthy and D Williams steps up. I guess I have to root for what's his face again.

To be fair, Thomas has looked solid since his return...he's made some nice plays.

Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”

:rimshot:

7777FinFansubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 06:16 PM

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

To be fair, Thomas has looked solid since his return...he's made some nice plays.

You are right. Maybe some couch time inspired him.

miamironmiamironforum_veteran
Oct 25, 2014, 06:41 PM

"PhinFan1968 wrote:

To be fair, Thomas has looked solid since his return...he's made some nice plays.

Thomas wasn't even active versus Green Bay and against THE BEARS HE SHOWED HIS USUAL 3.6 YARDS A CARRY.Granted he had a good "7 carries" the first two games but we all know what we have with Thomas,
we don't have to sugar coat what he is

BumrushBumrushsubscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 06:44 PM

"Stringer Bell wrote:

Philbin gets 100% of the credit for being 3-3. He is in charge of everything, so he is judged on the totality of it.

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So if by some miracle the team finishes 11-5, wins a playoff game or two and exceeds expectations, you would consent to Philbin getting 100% of the credit for it?

PhinFan1968PhinFan1968subscriber
Oct 25, 2014, 06:46 PM

"miamiron wrote:

Thomas wasn't even active versus Green Bay and against THE BEARS HE SHOWED HIS USUAL 3.6 YARDS A CARRY.Granted he had a good "7 carries" the first two games but we all know what we have with Thomas,
we don't have to sugar coat what he is

Leaving out his receptions, and a TD called back by penalty. Unless, of course, you'd rather we just keep throwing drops at Miller. And he's averaged 5.4 yards a carry since coming back as well.

Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”

:rimshot:

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