I'd have to watch again to really look into this.
I'd be absolutely shocked if this were true.
Snap counts aren't associated with plays. It's simply the way to keep defenses from jumping the gun.

 

I noticed that too. To throw off opposing defenses every once and a while he should say, Go ninja, go ninja! Go!

 

Gotta be coincidence. Playcalling and snap count have nothing to with each other. If anything, you'd think we'd pass more often when its a harder snap count so as to try and draw the offsides and get a free play deep.

 

Yet 3-0.

 

I Lol'd

 

"Wake me up, before you go, go..."

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IF he is, you just told the Saints....way to go Rocky you idiot!

 

Dammit Rocky!

Loose lips, sink ships.

That means with you, there's always TWO chances to give the enemy info...:shifty:

 

"Goin' to a Go Go, in London!"

Oh, that's right. We don't play there this year!!!

Rats!
[video=youtube;sWt4Hz1KGcQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWt4Hz1KGcQ[/video]

 

I find it interesting that he uses "go" instead of the more traditional "hut" or "hike".

 

We should keep it like that until NE.

 

Lets not jump the gun here..theres got to be a logical reason for it. Game plan anyone ? Let the next opponent watch film and think they're on to something then change it up dramatically. Also, I'd like to think our coaches arent nearly so stupid .

 

We've used the exact same snap count for two seasons now.

"Blue 88.....GO!"
"Blue 88.....GO! GO!"

I never thought to see if either followed run or pass. That would be quite a tell. Until they change it during a game. ;) Perhaps that's what they're waiting for -- someone to catch on.

The simple snap count is a function of coaching. It's how he's told to do it. I can't pretend to know the precise logic/reasoning behind it. But I would imagine it has to do with tempo and avoiding pre-snap penalties. I would like to see us be able to draw the defense offsides from time to time and keep them off balance. Then again, I don't recall a lot of defensive linemen getting big jumps off the ball. And I believe the cadence isn't always the same. The pause before GO tends to vary as I recall, which makes a difference.

Ultimately, the simplicity might not matter. Ryan gets to the line, reads the defense and makes whatever adjustments he deems necessary. So it doesn't appear that's he's restrained in any way.

 

Last year when the texans and JJ watt had their way with Tannehill, JJ came out and said he studied our snap count and plays via hard knocks. . And it obviously paid off so maybe rock is onto more than we think. Either way it's true to say there isnt much time to react to it anyway

 

CK mentioned this is how Sherman runs his offense. I gotta think if it were an issue.. They would have changed it Lo g ago

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Soooo.. Will it be a Hurricane this week?

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I don't understand how it wouldn't be an issue.

 

Thats one thing I never understood.....in a snap count, they usually call out a color and a number...do they mean much of anything? I mean Im sure they do, but whats the story behind it?

 

Of course he is. That's why we're 0-3.

Wait...

 

When I played in High School the snap count was a word, in this case a color, that indicated a formation type, and the number indicated the play in the formation, meaning the gap for a run or the hot receiver or both

 

I got you now,....of course wouldnt that be just repeating what was stated in the huddle?

 

Typically yes. Can never make sure everyone is on the same page enough.

 

I've also used a color as a hot read to change a WR's pattern. Back in the day I was a fast guy so if pressed the QB would call "red" and I knew he wanted me to run a streak/fade instead of whatever pattern had been called.

 

You're Ghosting us Motherf*&&er!!!

 

This could be a good way to pull an off sides or change up when really needed.

 

This is interesting. I don't think it's absolute, but it is certainly true the vast majority of the time. I'm about 3/4 through game one watching this, and I have one instance I'm fairly sure the 'rule' broke, and two others it may have (audio is hard to tell).

I'd think this would really impact play action -- and last year ESPN called out play action in particular as a point of strength: http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/52995/ryan-tannehill-excelling-in-play-action

 

Since the ball is practically snapped right at the first GO or 2nd GO there is just not enough time for the defense to realize it and react correctly.
Till they are able to realize it AND react correctly they probably have seen the handoff or drop-back anyway and are reacting based on that.

If that whole thing would really be an issue we would be in trouble since a long time ago and not be 3-0.

And... we would have the dumbest coaching stuff in the history of the game... :laughy:

 

What if we "GO GO" and then play action? Mind blown.

 

Definitely going to pay attention when I get a chance to re-watch the game. Haven't yet though.

 

I'm not saying this remotely plausible, or true, however the best NFL defenders are watching the QBs heads and adjusting accordingly, knowing the call as the ball is snapped is a huge advantage. If you know it's a run before the hand-off how are you guys saying there will be no time to adjust? Again I'm not saying this is happening, but if it were it's a huge issue.

That said I can't for the life of me think a coaching staff would be that dumb.

Our previous record doesn't matter. Patriots were 9-3 and gunning for a playoff bye when we blanked them 21-0 and then Zach went on TV and told everyone he figured out their playcalling by listening to audio? We killed them that game.

 

Why is this thread not locked yet?!?

 

Oops. Now I've confused myself. It must be that he said "Go" even in play action, which would theoretically tip off a pass.