Am I the only one that is concerned about this? Really, If Jordan goes on the PUP we spent the 3rd overall pick on a guy that is going to do nothing his first year in the NFL.

 

He won't, don't worry..no way he needs 8 weeks of the regular season.

 

The article states one r two weeks, can we get a little optimism going here please?

 

Word.

Remember he is at the end of the recovery from his shoulder surgery. This is not really unexpected.

 

Remember that reserve status is completely fungible during training camp. If he ended up on the regular season reserve list, THAT would be a big problem as he'd miss about half the season at the least. But you can't be on that regular season reserve list unless you were first on the training camp list and you can't be on the training camp list unless you started on the training camp list so the Dolphins are just covering themselves in case there's a setback. He can come off reserve any time during camp.

It sucks, he's going to miss a week or two of camp and he probably won't play in the Hall of Fame game...and may even miss the next preseason game. But the plan for him during the season is still to be a nickel pass rusher and then to perhaps spice him in on some other downs. I'm thinking he's about a 500 snap guy, much like Olivier Vernon last year. And I do actually think that's a significant departure from the norm for Jeff Ireland, to be willing to draft a guy like that as high as he did. Didn't think he was capable of that. But in typical Jeff Ireland fashion, when he broke into territory he hadn't been in before, he did it extremely...reminds me of Brandon Marshall. I think it's safe to say that no other player in the top 5 is going to just be a 500 snap guy.

Here's the rookie snaps of players in the top 5 since PFF has been tallying snap counts, normalized for a 16 game schedule:

Jake Long - 1068
Chris Long - 733
Matt Ryan - 1078
Glenn Dorsey - 828
Darren McFadden - 362 (RB; 185 touches)
Matt Stafford - 1104
Jason Smith - 775
Tyson Jackson - 700
Aaron Curry - 848
Mark Sanchez - 1049
Sam Bradford - 1134
Ndamukong Suh - 1198
Gerald McCoy - 850
Trent Williams - 1019
Eric Berry - 1104
Cam Newton - 1061
Von Miller - 956
Marcell Dareus - 750
A.J. Green - 923
Patrick Peterson - 1138
Andrew Luck - 1208
Robert Griffin - 1009
Trent Richardson - 773 (RB; 350 touches)
Matt Kalil - 1053
Justin Blackmon - 982

The average is 948. If you don't count the running backs (as I don't think they're comparable), the average is 981. If Dion Jordan is indeed a 500 snaps guy this year, he will be unique for a top 5 pick in the last 5 drafts.

 

Speaking of Jordan, I found this pretty interesting:

That very much looks like Dion Jordan lining up as a true linebacker, and replacing either Ellerbe or Wheeler. I am looking forward to see him practicing, but I think the perception of him as a defensive end is very much wrong.

 

That surely is what the picture has been painted, what are you thinking?

 

Cameron Wake is such a unique player.

 

I think it's a bit difficult to figure for sure, but I think for certain people need to stop looking at him as a defensive end, or purely a pass rusher. A lot depends on how he develops or his skill-set. I think it certainly looks like they expect him to linebacker good rather than edge rusher good at coverage, and I think you found a highlight which suggests using him to sugar gaps would be a good fit.

Beyond that, who knows?

 

I agree, I don't want him to just be a def end, I don't believe that uses the entire skillset of the athlete, I think what folks think is that using him in coverage is wasting his talent, I feel the contrary, I think he can do such unique things at that size it's quite unprecedented to the eye and maybe that unsureness comes out whenever they comment on of what this player should or shouldn't be doing..

To me when you just ask him to rush the passer your not taking advantage of the type of space this athlete can cover, and what can transpire negatively for the offense because of it..I can understand the angle of not overloading him and just letting him rush the passer, but he didnt seem overloaded in college when he was coming off the corner on a blitz, standing up as a five tech taking one step toward the Los, baiting the Qb into thinking the slot got a free release off the line, and literally jumping backwards (approx five yards, one movement) like some sort of freakin gazzelle to block the lane at the last second, rushing the passer with one arm. Etc.

The man literally played nickel corner....well..

I want to use all that and create a new position for this kid..some might say there's no such thing, but I believe there is something in this dudes skillset that hasn't been seen by this league.

 

What really makes this dangerous and viable, and without which it would be predictable, is Olivier Vernon's good ability to drop into coverage. Pretty rare for a DE.


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I still think Dion Jordan is to the defense, what Tavon Austin is to an offense. He may have a position listed in the program, but he isn't going to really have a set position.

 

Return of the monster package ala JT?

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More or less.

I think a piece like Jordan is the lynchpin in having multiple looks with a single package on defense. About the only thing left he has to prove is if he can set the edge. If he can do that, then he could conceivably play anywhere from either DE spot or all 3 LB spots on any given play. Hell, with his speed he could even be the "screen-buster" we've sorely needed against the Pats, while still being the player that least creates a mismatch against Gronk.

All of this gets even more interesting when you factor in the fact OV is already making headlines.

 

Link? :lol: