I mean it gets worse behind mcCown, we are twlking practice squad quality.

I just find it pathetic that it would take this much for us to be competitive. We couldnt even beat brady's two backups yesterday

 

Cody Kessler is the next man up. From what I've studied, his accuracy is pin-point, but he's an extremely conservative passer. Low-risk, low-reward approach to the game. I'm expecting a plethora of short passes and screens, even more so because Cameron Wake and Ndamukong Suh are going to eat up the right side of that offensive line (John Greco, Austin Pasztor). Should be a nice rebound game for our defense... ​should.

 

From a fantasy perspective I'm pissed. I stored Josh Gordon away on my bench and was getting excited at the prospects of McCown throwing to him instead of RGIII.

 

Kesller? no, we should destroy him.

 

We'll probably find out who's next after him. We're 2 for 2. How is Cleveland's oline? They hung 20 on Baltimore.

 

Have they said McCown is going to be out multiple weeks? As a fellow Gordon stasher in my 14 team league, I need him badly.

 

i should feel pretty confident in a victory this week, then again i remember geno smith having a perfect rating against us and thad lewis beating us twice.

 

Cleveland has a solid OL, good run blocking, not so good in pass pro. Their DL is similar, stout vs the run, not much of a pass rush.

 

I did the same, and just cut him in favor or Crowell. They're much more likely to run the ball the rest of the way.

 

that's not really accurate. Brady's primary backup kicked our arse. His 2nd backup managed the game, losing a huge lead and squeaked out the win because of L Blount.

 

Browns should be run heavy. Kessler has a weak but accurate arm. Short to intermediate he is good. Deep he is horrible

 

The Dolphins are world renowned for their ability to play down to the level of any opponent. Nothing will be guaranteed.

 

Browns let offenses score an average of 27 points per game last year, and so far the same this year.

So a great measuring stick for this offense is whether we score more or less than 27 points.

 

In all reality, we have to start giving something at least resembling a little bit of credit to NE and to Jimmy Garoppolo who played a hell of a half. The guy is a 2nd round pick from 2014. He was a 4-yr starter at Eastern Illinois who posted over 13k yards and 118 TDs. The guy can throw a football, no question about it. He’s not some schlep UDFA. And we know the Josh McDaniels and that Patriot offense can put young QBs in good positions.

To put it into perspective, Garoppolo went into Arizona and put up 234 yards and a TD without turning it over. The dude went against that secondary and posted a 106 rating. And if you question Arizona’s defense consider that just got 4 INTs off of Jameis Winston this Sunday. People here may not respect Jimmy Garoppolo but he’s played well when given a chance.

At some point you have to give credit where it’s due. Sunday can’t be all about Miami’s D not showing up. Garoppolo made some great reads and threw the ball like a legit QB prospect. It wasn’t really Jimmy Garoppolo who embarrassed Miami either. It was those NE receivers who were getting open pretty easily.

The Browns don’t have the receivers NE does so I honestly doubt we see that happen, particularly given the QB situation there but I’m not going to sit here and defend Miami’s D. They need to show up and prove it after getting toasted last week.

 

I agree in principle, but not as much in practice.

We have so much "game tape" on the Dolphins D not playing well. Garoppolo's still new, so yes he looked real impressive, but will he continue to do so once there's a lot of game tape on him? We've seen 1 year wonders at QB before.

So for me, most of the blame is still on the Dolphins defense.

 

Exactly my point, really. You have to appreciate both aspects. You have a new defense playing against a new QB. Not fair to put 100% of the blame on the D and pretend like Garopollo can't produce. We've seen young QBs in NE produce. That's the systems potential and with a passer like Garopollo it has the potential to be quite good actually.

It's not Tom Brady in there, but it doesn't mean your expectations should be for the NE offense to suck. Clearly they do not. This forum came away slamming the Dolphins D for allowing Garopollo to play well. Well, he's in a position to succeed quite truthfully. His college career proved he was an ample passer and so far that's what he's been. He beat a better defense in Arizona the week before. Maybe it's him. Maybe it's a lack of tape. Maybe it's McDaniels. Maybe it's the system. I don't care. It's mostly likely all those factors, right?

The embarrassing aspect was how the NE receivers got open. That's who beat you. The NE QB was simply never going to look as inept as most Dolphins fan led themselves to believe.

 

Yeah, we'll have a better idea how to re-interpret what happened at the end of the season. Garoppolo definitely looked liked he belonged, but I want to see him do that for an entire season (only for this argument's purposes.. not for the AFC East race) before saying Garoppolo was a key reason the Dolphins' D looked bad.

 

I just made my survivor pick and went contrarian of the Dolphins game. I'm just nervous. I can't count how many games I've watched this team play where there is no conceivable way they should lose and they find a way. And then beat a vastly inferior team the following week. It's the hallmark of a mediocre team. You're right though, this has to be a statement game for this coaching staff. Win and win big, or the seat is going to start getting hot early.

 

Tannehill and Landry came up huge for me in my fantasy league Sunday. I won easily because I started him instead of Russel Wilson.

 

so, he's chad pennington?

 

Whatever. Bellicick's super human at prepping his team. You can't apply anything the Pats do to anyone else. I detest them but they are the freaking mensa alpha team.

We're going to smoke the Browns like something out of a Cheech and Chong movie.