JP Losman.........please shoot me now

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2socks2socksforum_veteranOP
Dec 12, 2011, 09:38 PM

After putting in a Bills retread who couldn't get it done in Buffalo after multiple seasons, and us doing absolutely nothing on offense, what would you be willing to give to acquire Andrew Luck.

Would you trade the whole draft to move up to select him.......if Players like him only come along once every 10 years, what would you be willing to give???

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SilverphinSilverphinforum_veteran
Dec 12, 2011, 09:41 PM

As much as I'd like to trade the farm for Luck, we have other wholes to fill, such as Right Tackle, Pass Rusher (to take the pressure off of Wake), and the like.

2socks2socksforum_veteran
Dec 12, 2011, 09:48 PM

You got to admit though it is tempting. Wise.....not so sure but definitely tempting. It could make us instantly respectable......................................

"Silverphin wrote:

As much as I'd like to trade the farm for Luck, we have other wholes to fill, such as Right Tackle, Pass Rusher (to take the pressure off of Wake), and the like.

Winning isn't everything - it's the only thing
In Our Business there is no second place
Either your first or your last

Vince Lombardi

Rocky RaccoonRocky Raccoonmoderator
Dec 12, 2011, 09:52 PM

"2socks wrote:

You got to admit though it is tempting. Wise.....not so sure but definitely tempting. It could make us instantly respectable......................................

I'm not sure trading away our entire draft for a player who's never played a snap in the NFL would make us respectable.

Like Silverphin said, we have other holes to fill too. I'd rather draft another QB and keep my draft picks.

Larry LittleLarry Littlesubscriber
Dec 12, 2011, 09:53 PM

For a franchise QB, on this team? Depending upon how many spots we'd have to move up, and if it was a reasonable jump, yes, I would trade a whole draft to move up and select one. Probably Luck or Barkley. However... there might be other franchise QBs in this draft. I reserve final judgement until next March. ;)

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Dec 12, 2011, 09:58 PM

For Andrew Luck? I'd kill a few people.

MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.

pacadermng67pacadermng67New Member
Dec 12, 2011, 10:05 PM

Losman looked like crap but it was hardly the environment for a QB who was signed halfway through the year to be expected to go in and win. And to do so while Eagles pass rushers are pouring through the Oline like a sieve.

I still say dont trade the entire draft. Go for Barkely or RG3.

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djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Dec 12, 2011, 10:17 PM

For Luck, I would..

Rick 1966Rick 1966forum_veteran
Dec 12, 2011, 10:20 PM

Yes, I would give up multiple high picks to move up for Luck. You only get limited chances to draft a franchise QB.

PHPhylNew Member
Dec 12, 2011, 10:23 PM

Franchise QBs change everything. I'd do what I have to do to get one.

dolfan32323dolfan32323New Member
Dec 12, 2011, 10:31 PM

We should start Devlin this week. Please, we know what kind of garbage Losman is already.

DorfdadDorfdadforum_veteran
Dec 12, 2011, 10:54 PM

I would and fill those holes with free agents this year. Restructure contracts, sign good free agents and not fillers...

AquafinAquafinNew Member
Dec 12, 2011, 11:13 PM

whi ole you guys might be impressed with Bess and Hartline I would trade those guys and a 1 st rd in 2012 for Luck but what is wrong with drafting Griffin and then draft a big wr and then draft 3 olinemen and 1 more tightend and go all out get a real offense .

Roman529Roman529New Member
Dec 12, 2011, 11:16 PM

"2socks wrote:

After putting in a Bills retread who couldn't get it done in Buffalo after multiple seasons, and us doing absolutely nothing on offense, what would you be willing to give to acquire Andrew Luck.

Would you trade the whole draft to move up to select him.......if Players like him only come along once every 10 years, what would you be willing to give???

NOTHING...we cannot afford to give anything up to move up to get Luck.

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Dec 12, 2011, 11:31 PM

Damn I was hoping this was a JP Losman witch hunt thread....... :shifty:

PhinPhanaticPhinPhanaticNew Member
Dec 12, 2011, 11:32 PM

"2socks wrote:

After putting in a Bills retread who couldn't get it done in Buffalo after multiple seasons, and us doing absolutely nothing on offense, what would you be willing to give to acquire Andrew Luck.

Would you trade the whole draft to move up to select him.......if Players like him only come along once every 10 years, what would you be willing to give???

As many picks as needed. We could get some support on the rt side via free agency and with Taylor/FS playing better. Its the biggest and most important need by miles!

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branbranNew Member
Dec 12, 2011, 11:51 PM

no i wouldnt trade a whole draft for luck, im sick of hearing people on espn and other places saying he is a sure thing he wont bust, bull**** there is not such thing in the nfl or any other sport of a sure thing all it takes is 1 shot and youre career may be over or you will never be the same, or maybe he gets hit alot and his confidence gets shot who knows?

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Dol-Fan DupreeDol-Fan Dupreeforum_veteran
Dec 12, 2011, 11:56 PM

One of my nightmares is waking up and having JP Losman as the quarterback for the phins, however he is the third string quarterback. There are not many third string quarterbacks I would want to start for the Dolphins.

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DHPVWDHPVWNew Member
Dec 13, 2011, 12:14 AM

F@#K Luck!! I hope the dude is a huge ass bust!! He's a great prospect coming into the league but that's where it ends. He could be the next big flop for all that anyone knows. I'm not gonna say that he hasn't played extremely well in college but to bet the farm on a QB that hasn't taken a snap outside of college football and put us without high picks for years to come is just too much imo. I'd much rather take a chance on RG3, Barkley or Foles. Players that have also played really well and have a lot of promise but won't cost us everything. NO QB is a sure thing or any player for that matter.....I sure as hell don't want to give up a bunch of future picks for a player that could very well flop just like another player that would cost us a lot less

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Dec 13, 2011, 12:19 AM

"DHPVW wrote:

F@#K Luck!! I hope the dude is a huge ass bust!! He's a great prospect coming into the league but that's where it ends. He could be the next big flop for all that anyone knows. I'm not gonna say that he hasn't played extremely well in college but to bet the farm on a QB that hasn't taken a snap outside of college football and put us without high picks for years to come is just too much imo. I'd much rather take a chance on RG3, Barkley or Foles. Players that have also played really well and have a lot of promise but won't cost us everything. NO QB is a sure thing or any player for that matter.....I sure as hell don't want to give up a bunch of future picks for a player that could very well flop just like another player that would cost us a lot less

People wanted the Dolphins to lose to get him.
Suck For Luck was the worst movement we might have seen ever as fans who bought in.
Sell your soul for something that wasn't going to happen...... :lol:

PhinsRockPhinsRockluxury_box
Dec 13, 2011, 12:32 AM

I'm all in for starting Devlin, we're not going to win another game this season anyway and I don't want us to so we are in the hunt for Barkley or Griffin3. Not interested in giving up the whole draft for Luck, he's good but not THAT good. Asides; what good would Luck be behind this OL? He'd be killed back there and we could ruin him. Who's he going to have to throw to besides BM? We still have too many needs to go for Luck.

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djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Dec 13, 2011, 12:32 AM

"Killerphins wrote:

People wanted the Dolphins to lose to get him.
Suck For Luck was the worst movement we might have seen ever as fans who bought in.
Sell your soul for something that wasn't going to happen...... :lol:

Shefter reports that Miami is not an ideal situation for an A-list coach...hmmmm... Bad Fanbase rep... bad Culture..Bad venue..

I hope it doesn't come to the point where a coach or player calls it out..

DHPVWDHPVWNew Member
Dec 13, 2011, 12:37 AM

I NEVER have, had or will be on the Suck for Luck bandwagon. It was horrible to even see our fans back the whole idea. If we got him than great but to wish to loose just to have a CHANCE at getting him is /was ridiculous. Plenty of good talent other than Luck in the draft that look capable of being a quality QB in the NFL. If Luck fails, which he probably won't. What then???? Like I said, Luck is a GREAT prospect but he is just that.....a prospect. The overall talent gap from Luck to the rest of the top 5 QB prospects isn't a huge gap imo. They are all really good looking players and they all have the tools to be good NFL caliber QB's

ClipseClipseNew Member
Dec 13, 2011, 12:43 AM

I don't think there's any question you trade the whole draft for Andrew Luck. The Colts will laugh at such a trade proposal however.

MRmracerNew Member
Dec 13, 2011, 12:43 AM

How good is this Barkley kid? It seems like everybody on this board is high on him and Griffin.

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