I hate when we draft a QB in rd one in the draft just to sit behind a old qb that ain’t part of the plan.
watching burrow playing
I can’t help to think to myself why not Tua
( Sporano voice ) when he said whyyy not us
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It’s all about Fitz at this point, he controls his destiny.keep playing like **** and losing, he gone..let’s see where we’re at after week four.
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Burrow is way older, need to get him going sooner.
Also, he has a better surrounding cast and had a more favorable matchup the first few weeks. The Chargers are good but they had to go from LA to Cinci, always tough. Now they are playing the Browns, not exactly a defensive juggernaut. We faced BB on the road and then Buffalo's nasty defense.
If Fitz blows again this week though, Tua time on Thursday Night Football against the Jags.Grippa likes this. -
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what could we reasonably expect from Tua if he is thrown in? A lot of pressure on him after all the hype of his signing
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I don't think it would be prudent to throw Tua out there behind five offensive linemen who've never played together, two of whom are rookies, after an abbreviated preseason.
Get a sense of how that line is going to function and then make the decision about Tua.
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It would be awful to throw him in soon. In my opinion his ceiling isnt much higher than acceptable starter, best case, to begin with. For the sake of argument though let's say he is going to be great.
There is no way he can or should have a full handle on the offense, especially with all of the new additions already playing together for the first time.
Like it or not, Fitz is going to be the glue that holds the offense together most of the early season at minimum. Hopefully it gets better than last week.RevRick likes this. -
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Of all of the dumbest things the Dolphins could do, putting Tagovailoa in now would top them all...including passing on Brees for Culpepper.
Let Carroll Shelby (Flores) fine tune the GT40 (Dolphins offensive unit) before putting Ken Myles (Tagovailoa) behind the wheel.
Fitzpatrick is expendable. Tagovailoa isn’t and putting him in before that offensive unit can play competently is a recipe for yet another Dolphins disasterMikeHoncho, RevRick, Tin Indian and 1 other person like this. -
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Sitting behind a veteran sure seemed to work out ok for Aaron Rodgers.
With Tua’s injury history and hip, I’d rather we give him time. We also don’t have a good OL developed yet to give him the best chance of success. We’re far away from win now so I think we’re in develop now mode. -
At minimum the position players should be carrying their own weight ideally before you even think of Tua.
In terms of the OL, it was more promising last week than last season but NE didnt run anything crazy defensively. They just lined up and challenged us for the most part. -
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The priority right now, given that the linemen haven't played together before, two of them are rookies, and the preseason was abbreviated, should be to simply ensure the offensive line isn't so poor that it gets Tua hurt or otherwise interferes with his development. Once that hurdle has been cleared, the decision regarding Tua should no longer involve the offensive line. The team shouldn't be holding out until it has the Dallas Cowboys' offensive lines of the 1990s before inserting Tua.djphinfan likes this. -
I still think that as long as the staff is good with his hip status and if Fitz blows again, it's week 3. Not like JVille with no/minimal crowds will be a rough away location and hopefully the team will be amped up for a prime time game. Then you get a home match with Seattle whose defense is just OK these days before the big test going to the west coast to face San Fran.KeyFin likes this. -
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By carrying their own weight this is sort of what I meant, the phrase is just a little broad to get it across.
Obviously we cant just not play him forever because the parts arent ready and like you said obviously we dont want him killed.
I just want the the team, specifically the line, looking like it isnt a detriment to his development and the skill positions to sort of understand all their assignments a bit better in the offense.
Also I'd say Wilson is a much more elusive athletic QB. He actually has a lot if running capability despite the fact he uses his athleticism mostly to pass.
Tua is more athletic than a standard drop back passer, but i dont know if he has the tools Wilson does to deal with abnormal pressure.Last edited: Sep 18, 2020 -
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I wouldn't throw him out there yet. No real running game. Not good OL play just yet either. Maybe they'll get better if they have some time to gel, but for the sake of his health and long term future leave him on the bench still. This team isn't playoff bound unless the OL gets way better, the WR's get separation and the defense actually plays well enough to beat a college team. Tua isn't going to fix that. If he wasn't coming off the injury I'd probably sing a different tune, but right now... nope.
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Herbert with his first career start today
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can Tua play defence?
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I legitimately thought that OP meant in the "trenches" along the defensive line.
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I will say that the OL has been one thing that has looked decent. It makes it more reasonable to start him.
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One of the sure fire, almost guaranteed ways to ruin a new quarterback it to throw him to the wolves, which would be better than putting him out there in the unit we have today. The line needs to actually perform as if they have played before, and the defense ought to be able to at least slow down the opponent. We have been through this many times before - getting impatient is not going to make a good line magically appear, a defense able to stop the opposition on critical downs, or the final score be acceptable. Time, patience, the right ingredients on every unit (notably the coaching staff and front office!!), and practice together are vital - and we have not had that combination in a long time.Hooligan, brandon27 and The_Dark_Knight like this. -
Granted, you want a quarterback who can confidently lead an offense down the field to score and win but if that quarterback is always being asked to overcome a 2-3 score deficit, he's going to fail more times than not.
Using the Patriots as an example, when Tom Brady was thrust into the starter role following Drew Bledsoe's injury during week 2 of the 2001 NFL season, the Patriots 6th ranked defense was key in helping Brady. Not only were they able to stop opposing offenses and giving the ball back to the Patriots offense, with their 35 turnovers, they were often able to give Brady even more opportunities, often with short fields to work with. A stout defense would work the same for Tua. All of the pressure wouldn't be on him and he would actually get MORE opportunities.
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How many times have you seen a promising quarterback thrown to the fray only to collapse because of inexperience plus a lousy coaching staff have thrown the lamb to the wolfpack. We have seen it on the Dolphins enough in my 54 years of watching them. Patience!!!!! If he can start in the latter half of the season I will be happier than two hogs in a mud waller. Putting him out there now (except in possibly a few well chosen moments) is not only an example of incompetence in general , but of an incompetency to see the totality of the team. Wait till we see if we actually have an offensive line that is not offensive to the home fans, a few receivers who can catch the difficult throws, a running game which can actually put some yards down, and a defense which has enough gall, gumption, and guts to act as if they want to stop the other team.
Oh, and where is this offensive line's Dwight Stephenson, Roy Foster, and Ed Newman???Last edited: Sep 21, 2020The_Dark_Knight likes this. -
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