The last pass was to Brown, not Polite. And, Henne didn't look elsewhere because it was designed to go to Ronnie quickly.

 

Nothing new here. I've been saying the same thing for the entire year. People in attendance have said the same thing AFTER attendance. The fact is that Chad Henne has done nothing to keep eight men out of the box and that kills everything including the run.




........but I've got a sneaky feeling that some statistics are forthcoming in this thread that will prove what you saw with eyes to be wrong.

 

not true. it was an either or play. first look was down the field, brown was second option

 

Good call, except the quite flat route was designed to go to Brown. Much like the quick flat route to Williams in the Bills game.

 

Serious question here....... I saw this said on the forum right after the game. I cannot recall it being said by player or coach. Got a linky or something?

 

There's a link for the Bills game where Henne said the first read and primary read was Williams in the flat for a first down and out of bounds. I'm completely assuming it was the exact same call since it was 3rd( or 2nd) and short and they wanted to get a first quickly on the same play call.

 

I think the reason that's being said is because Marshall supposedly began blocking upfield as if the play was designed to go to Brown quickly - but I'll be honest and admit that I don't know because I didn't see the game. That is what I've read listed as the reason, however.

 

There is no supposedly. He did begin blocking.

 

I'm not listening to anyone. I didn't see/read anyone on the team say anything about that last play.

 

I didn't mean any offense Stitches, but I really didn't see it, so I couldn't confirm first hand.

 

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off like I did. I wasn't offended by you.

 

What a great post.

I'm hoping you asked yourself WHY. Why are there two WRs running down the field wide open on that play? I'm thinking maybe, just maybe, the Lions want Henne to take that throw. If he does, the DBs come up and make the tackle, we had no time outs left, so game over. Instead, Henne checks down to Brown, who was supposed to get what he could before getting out of bounds. Same as Ricky was supposed to do vs the Bills the week before. Neither of our lead footed backs could make a man miss or get out of bounds. The idea is to get a few yards so that Henne has a chance to throw a Hail Mary or two and maybe tie the game. The idea is not to get a 20-30 yd gain and then watch the clock tick to zero while our offensive lineman duck walk their way to the new line of scrimmage.

I'm going to guess no. No you didn't ask why the Lions would allow free runners down the field or why Henne would throw short anyway. It's much easier to just assume Henne's a moron for not throwing deep, the Lions are idiots for allowing such a huge gap in coverage, and that you know more about the game than any of the PROFESSIONALS on the field. C'mon Man.

 

Designed screen. Marshall started blocking before it got there and didn't even turn around to see. He knew where it was going.

 

Wow. You almost puked?

 

I didn't almost puke when watching live. I stood up, pointed to the TV, cursed the heavens above, and then said....

That (player) and that (player) have to go. They are (expletive) ******ed.

 

The point iam getting from this is that even though the play was designed to go to ronnie real quick, you gotta do a better job givin at least a quick look to the other side so you can try to get some space for ronnie to execute, {this is called QB'ING} he didn't, he stared down his checkdown from the moment it was snapped..

If Penny doesn't get hurt, Henne never sees the field again.

 

No doubt about that.

So why is everyone so surprised Henne couldn't get it done down the stretch, when he obviously hit the wall in the Raven game?

 

Go back and watch the Dolphin's first offensive drive in that football game.
That will tell a bunch about why we didn't win that game.
You forget to run the football the rest of the day. :up:

 

What? Huh/ Come again? These are NFL defenses we're playing against DJ. WADR, the Lions could care less where Henne looks at that point, all they care about is not giving up a TD. Ronnie was alone in the flat, with a blocker in front. The block never materialized, Ronnie seemed surprised, he never got out of bounds, the play was a disaster. Game Over. But anyone who thinks that's why we lost the game already had their mind made up before the game. Period.

 

I cant even begin to describe how much of an idiot your post implies that you are. If only we had a QB with a football IQ as high as yours, we'd be 15-0, no doubt. Its all Henne's fault. No running game, Henne's fault. Worst YPC in the league, blame Chad. Worst rushing TD totals in the league, Chad's fault. No playmakers outside, Chad's fault. 2 practice squad WRs and a practice squad TE to rely on in crunch time, Chad's fault. Up 10, late in the 4th, going into the wind, no choice but to pass b/c we can't run worth a damn, Chad's fault. Only a simpleton thinks these things.

If AFC playbook had enough time to explain the WHOLE GAME, maybe they'd have put some context into their analysis. Maybe. But they only have a few seconds to make a point and Henne happened to be the fall guy in the minds of their producers this week. They didnt have time to point out Best's 53 yd TD, untouched. Or McQuistan's 2 false starts. Or Sean Smiths dropped INT. Or Long's holding call on 2nd & goal from the one. Or Wake being held in the exact same manner, but no call on the Lions' TD. No time to mention Murtha's injury, or Fasano's injury. Or Shuler stopping his route that led to INT 1 or Bess falling down that led to INT 2. None of that stuff is soundbite friendly, or common sense friendly. Reality is, AFC Playbook is for casual fans, not for people who really want to understand the game.

Is Sparano watching AFC Playbook? Ireland? Henning? Henne? Mayo? Meriweather? Belichek? Hell NO. Only idiot fans/observers are drawing any conclusions from AFC Playbook's analysis of 5 plays in a 100+ play game. That includes you. Congratulations. Anyone who is to REALLY understand what happened on Sunday has the coaches film, the rest, myself included, have DVR versions of the TV film and only a margnal idea of what happened. I know you love the idea of thinking your football IQ is higher than Henne's. How else can you excuse calling him out for lack of football sense? Reality is, only a moron even considers the possibility that they know more about ballin' than Chad Henne. Please, give us all your football resume'. Where have you played? Where have you coached? Grad assistant? Film assistant? Scouting dept, for who? NOWHERE. Never mind, feel free to pretend you know what you're talking about. That's what fans are for.

 

I will take the advice and watch that part of the show. It is on at noon, Friday. I have it set to record. Thanx.

 

People should be killed? Really?

Were you just out of ways to express yourself other than to suggest death?

 

In the OP you wrote "TWO" receivers were open. Now you're saying there were three?

I DVR all the AFC playbooks. I haven't watched it yet. I will now.

Stitches is right, BTW.

 

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!

*clap*clap*clap*clap*!!!!!

 

all iam sayin GM is the play from the qb position's perspective, cannot be designed for the QB to stare down the option from the snap, there has to be some deception involved in the design no?

To me it just shows a small example of immature QB'ing for a third year player...and that ronnie brown cannot, or does not want to, or he forgot how to, reach a high level of performance relative to his talent in a dolphin uniform.

 

I'd like to chime in: Watch Marshall from the snap and what he proceeds to do on a BLOCK that MUST happen for us to get 5-6 more yards and putting us in the redzone area to score with more ease. And for DJphins, he DID look off the first read looking to the other side then going back and throwing it. Hes not going to whip his head 5 times before throwing it. NO ONE on any level does that for a quick throw like that.

[video=youtube;Se2hp2PJah8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se2hp2PJah8[/video]

 

whats really damning about the replay is how much time he had in the pocket. he reeally didnt allow any route to develop before he was checking down. For what its worth, Sparano said Marshall wasnt supposed to be blocking in a presser Monday IIRC. I believe Marshall was actually supposed to be out in a route and may even have been the first read so that play may be Marshall's fault as well. But with that pocket, Henne really should have let the routes develop. There was no reason to rush it. If he slides to the right and steps up one step he can probably by another three seconds

 

my point more involves awareness and some suddenness to make a play, the whole right side is open, he could of stepped up in the pocket to the right and made a play...

Who cares at this point..this play means diddly squat in the grand scheme of things..

 

Watch a few games from 2008 and you'll see the difference between having a dud under center vs. a difference maker. You can see what having a winner under center who doesn't need your excuses can make for a team. With a stronger arm and shoulder I have no doubt he'd be a top QB in the league. What a shame all we have left now is to argue over why Chad Henne is always a victim of circumstance.

 

If you watch 2008, you'd also notice what the difference between having a run game and not having one. The difference between opposing coaches having film with which to key in on the WC and Henning's overall tendencies. Is Pennington in year 10 a better QB than Henne in year 3, hard to argue he wasn't. But Penne was 0-3 last season, and he lasted 2 plays this season. Let's not pretend that the dropoff at QB is the cause of all our problems. The number of Henne bashing threads suggests people really think QB is our main issue, but it goes much deeper than that.

 

:sidelol:

 

The play is a microcosm of the Henning Henne dynamic...They were both equally unaware on the play...Jeez man, we were at the 35 yard line down by 7 with 19 seconds to go...I cant find the logic in the play call.

 

Yep, it is interesting to note that virtually no one argues based on what Henne has done that is positive, it 90% boils down to "not Henne's fault" and there are some things that really are not his fault such as 6 int's by my count, however the things he does poorly are simply amazing.

Watch, Marshall will top 1,000 yds this season, but the 4 Td's and lack of YAC and RAC tell the true tale of what the offense was like this season.

 

All I had to do was see who thanked this post to find out it wasn't worth a damn. No offense. The Dolphins need a quarterback and hopefully hes found in the 1st round.