This is an overall discussion of the draft, but go to the 19:00 minute mark and listen until the 25-26 minute mark.
Two things: Kiper talks about how he has worked year round for 32 years (not a 4 month a year deal) and second, he points out how he puts his stuff out there to be judged - rating all the players.
Basically, Mel notes that if you want to really be known, put it all out there and don't just talk about a few players you predicted.
While a lot of people criticize Mel, how many put out ratings on every player like he does - and leave it out there for public record? With Mel, you can go back and look and say, "Well, these are all the guys he predicted and what they would do and where they should be drafted - and he got X% right." That's really the only way to determine, "Does this draft guru really know his stuff?"
-
Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member
-
Kiper isn't even close to Mayock when it comes to evaluating the Draft.
-
I like Kiper he's entertaining to watch but unfortunately over the years he's been muzzled by the the corporate culture at ESPN. I guess that is part of the deal when you become a national figure even for something as limited as the NFL draft.
OCDolfan likes this. -
How come several months before the draft Kiper has all his picks posted and then about a week before the draft most of his picks are changed and his draft board looks like everyone else's board? Most of these draft analysts don't have an original thought in their head and they go with what the heard mentality. Kiper has been around longer then most of the other draft experts but that doesn't make him better.
-
I like Mel and Mayock. McDouchebag I cannot stand in any way.
-
The trouble with Mel Kiper is that he focuses on the draft year-round. He grades prospects, but he's completely ignorant of the needs and draft philosophies of the teams doing the drafting. In the end, he winds up projecting players based on puddle-deep analysis of the NFL.
You really can't be a "draft guru" if you don't know what the 32 teams are looking for when you talk about which prospect will be drafted where and why. -
MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member
-
MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member
I agree he is sharp on QBs. He had Tyler Thigpen rated fairly high in his draft class, amongst QBs while most everyone else had him buried as a UDFA, as I recall. He was also the only draft guru then to call Tim Couch a late 1st/early 2nd type of QB. He was adamant that Couch should not be ranked #1 overall. -
I always focused on QBs b/c of the importance of the position. I had Couch rated as a 2nd rounder as well. I also thought Joey Harrington was a 2nd/3rd round guy when most had him in the first. My dark horse hit was Kurt Warner after watching an Arena league game. It was my first year playing fantasy football. I drafted Warner when Green got hurt in preseason and finished in the top 100 in a +100,000 person league.
The one QB I've said was going to be bad and just missed on was McNabb. I never thought he was accurate enough to succeed.