Kiper Mock 4.0 (2 Rounds)

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GunnerGunnerNew MemberOP
Apr 5, 2013, 12:30 PM

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9123269/2013-nfl-draft-mel-kiper-latest-mock-draft-goes-two-full-rounds

Picks before our:

1 Chiefs - Luke Joeckel
2 Jags - Ezekiel Ansah
3 Raiders - Sharrif Floyd *
4 Eagles - Geno Smith
5 Lions - Dee Milliner *
6 Browns - Dion Jordan
7 Cards - Eric Fisher
8 Bills -Jonathan Cooper
9 Jets - Barkevious Mingo
10 Titans - Chance Warmack *
11 Bolts - Lane Johnson

Fins:

1 - OT DJ Fluker
2a - DE Tank Carradine
2b - CB Robert Alford

The next few picks were:

13 DT Star Lotulelei
14 LB Jarvis Jones
15 WR Tavon Austin
16 TE Tyler Eifert
17 DT Sylvester Williams
23 WR Cordarrelle Patterson

pocolocopocolocosubscriber
Apr 5, 2013, 12:44 PM

pump the brakes Kiper

peakzpeakzNew Member
Apr 5, 2013, 12:48 PM

I think that we'll have Menelik Watson ahead of DJ Fluker on our board, maybe even Terron Armstead too. Fluker is such a plodder.
Love the Alford and Carradine picks though. Those guys can play.

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GridIronKing34GridIronKing34forum_veteran
Apr 5, 2013, 12:50 PM

If we pass on Star, Eifert, Jones, AND Austin for DJ Fluker... I will be pissed.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Apr 5, 2013, 01:32 PM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

If we pass on Star, Eifert, Jones, AND Austin for DJ Fluker... I will be pissed.

Agreed.

I'd be ecstatic with a haul of Star, Carradine, and Alford though (or anyone else you mentioned, I just like Star most of that group).

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BpkBpkluxury_box
Apr 5, 2013, 01:36 PM

I don't love the Fluker pick, but the others are decent.

The truth is, we WILL come out of this draft with great new talent. It's almost impossible NOT to this year.

Not So FastNot So Fastforum_veteran
Apr 5, 2013, 01:43 PM

Terrible pick. Either Star or Austin would be way better.

gunn34gunn34New Member
Apr 5, 2013, 02:24 PM

No way that happens. We will not pass on the other talent just to grab an OT at 12.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Apr 5, 2013, 03:05 PM

Fluker and Martin as bookends ?. Does Kiper have something against Tannehill, that boy would be dead..

This is a mammoth of a man..6'6 340..has real trouble with his kick slide, as in not a quick one.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Apr 5, 2013, 03:16 PM

Just goes to show, the extent of Kiper's knowledge about the Dolphins is that they weren't able to re-sign Jake Long.
Have never liked the guys predictions. Not sure how he stays in business doing this to be honest.
There are minimum a dozen people in these forums that could and have predicted more accurate informed MOCK's than he has.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Apr 5, 2013, 03:21 PM

He's probably just trying to reflect that D.J. Fluker is going to go higher than people think.

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azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Apr 5, 2013, 03:22 PM

Perhaps, but he doesn't fit the Mantra of our O-line buildup at all. I don't see it. Stranger things have happened, but I don't see us taking Fluker at 12.

mrozmrozsubscriber
Apr 5, 2013, 03:26 PM

"GridIronKing34 wrote:

If we pass on Star, Eifert, Jones, AND Austin for DJ Fluker... I will be pissed.

frankly, I wold be pissed if the Fins drafted Fluker at all

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Claymore95Claymore95subscriber
Apr 5, 2013, 03:26 PM

As the next highest rated OT after the top 3, he's probably right that he'll go higher than expected. Would still question that it will be us that take him.

mrozmrozsubscriber
Apr 5, 2013, 03:28 PM

"ckparrothead wrote:

He's probably just trying to reflect that D.J. Fluker is going to go higher than people think.

If that is the case he is pretty dumb

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mrozmrozsubscriber
Apr 5, 2013, 03:30 PM

Brennan WIlliams with 3b or 4 and move on… much better players, fit for the Fins

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padre31padre31luxury_box
Apr 5, 2013, 03:34 PM

Suspect all of that hair gel has seeped into Kiper's brain.

Fluker at #12?

CACANDolphanforum_veteran
Apr 5, 2013, 03:34 PM

Kiper's a big name who has insane knowledge on every single prospect. Remember when Oakland drafted Mike Mitchell? Everyone, and I mean everyone, including McShay and Mayock, didn't know anything about the kid.

Kiper rattled off **** for like 5 minutes straight and said he was the 47th (not specifically sure) ranked safety on his board and this was a strange pick because not only a reach because of his strengths and weaknesses...

It was one of those moments where you realize wow Kiper knows a **** load.

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Apr 5, 2013, 03:42 PM

I hear that Geno Smith to the Jags is really picking up steam. If so you could see something like this:

01. Kansas City Chiefs - OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
02. Jacksonville Jaguars - QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
03. Oakland Raiders - DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
04. Philadelphia - DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida
05. Detroit Lions - OT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
06. Cleveland Browns - CB Dee Milliner, Alabama
07. Arizona Cardinals - OT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
08. Buffalo Bills - QB Matt Barkley, USC
09. New York Jets - FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
10. Tennessee Titans - CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
11. San Diego Chargers - WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia
12. Miami Dolphins - DT Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
13. New York Jets - LB Dion Jordan, Oregon
14. Carolina Panthers - OT D.J. Fluker, Alabama
15. New Orleans Saints - WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
16. St. Louis Rams - RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama
17. Pittsburgh Steelers - LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia
18. Dallas Cowboys - SS Matt Elam, Florida
19. New York Giants - DE Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, Florida State
20. Chicago Bears - LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia

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Fin-OmenalFin-OmenalNew Member
Apr 5, 2013, 03:44 PM

He gets paid for his analyst and his entertainment value, not his accuracy.

We are not taking Fluker that high don't worry.

Claymore95Claymore95subscriber
Apr 5, 2013, 03:49 PM

"ckparrothead wrote:

I hear that Geno Smith to the Jags is really picking up steam. If so you could see something like this:

01. Kansas City Chiefs - OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
02. Jacksonville Jaguars - QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
03. Oakland Raiders - DT Star Lotulelei, Utah
04. Philadelphia - DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida
05. Detroit Lions - OT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
06. Cleveland Browns - CB Dee Milliner, Alabama
07. Arizona Cardinals - OT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
08. Buffalo Bills - QB Matt Barkley, USC
09. New York Jets - FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
10. Tennessee Titans - CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
11. San Diego Chargers - WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia
12. Miami Dolphins - DT Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
13. New York Jets - LB Dion Jordan, Oregon
14. Carolina Panthers - OT D.J. Fluker, Alabama
15. New Orleans Saints - WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
16. St. Louis Rams - RB Eddie Lacy, Alabama
17. Pittsburgh Steelers - LB Jarvis Jones, Georgia
18. Dallas Cowboys - SS Matt Elam, Florida
19. New York Giants - DE Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, Florida State
20. Chicago Bears - LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia

Was just typing out a response that basically said "why Mingo?", when I checked the post again and saw it said Richardson. Now either I'm getting old or someone did a quick edit?! :wink2:

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Apr 5, 2013, 03:51 PM

"Claymore95 wrote:

Was just typing out a response that basically said "why Mingo?", when I checked the post again and saw it said Richardson. Now either I'm getting old or someone did a quick edit?! :wink2:

Quick edit. Couldn't put Mingo in there in all good conscience. Felt too much like pegging a bad pick onto them just because I don't think particularly highly of the front office's powers of evaluation.

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azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Apr 5, 2013, 03:51 PM

"padre31 wrote:

Suspect all of that hair gel has seeped into Kiper's brain.

Fluker at #12?

That's my line :lol:

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Apr 5, 2013, 03:53 PM

"ckparrothead wrote:

I hear that Geno Smith to the Jags is really picking up steam. If so you could see something like this:

09. New York Jets - FS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas

13. New York Jets - LB Dion Jordan, Oregon

I would prefer Tank at 12...but could get over it, especially if the JESTS spent two 1st rounders on these two guys :up:

Why do the Jests have 2 first rounders to begin with????

ckparrotheadckparrotheadmoderator
Apr 5, 2013, 03:54 PM

The point I'm trying to make though is that we may assume that Xavier Rhodes and Tavon Austin are going to be there but maybe not. Maybe all three offensive tackles, both quality defensive tackles, both quality corners AND Kenny Vaccaro AND Tavon Austin will all be off the board. Even with both QBs going.

If that's the case...what the hell do we do?

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