Laconfora says " it's highly unlikely"we sign Reggie.

Yeah he knows something. He knows how to speculate for the sake of a story.

He is just reading the stars IMO. Stars that suggest we can get by without him. Everyone familiar with our RB situation can see the same thing. The only way he signs is if he a) agrees to hometown discount b) he test free agency and realizes that the price teams are willing to spend for him are close to what MIA is offering.

We surely won't out bid anyone to keep him here.

Oh yeah, Reggie B is outta here, in fact I expect most of our FA's to leave.

When you hear "lowball" you know what is going to happen, Ireland doesn't want to pay anyone which is one of the reasons why I think Ross keeps him around.

This is very much my problem with reporting these days and why I don't believe much:

La Canfora specifically said:

Reggie Bush's ability to make explosive plays and contribute on special teams will lead to a nice market forming for him, I'm sure, and it's highly unlikely he stays with Miami, sources said.

Then Darlington says in his article:

He shouldn't get those hopes up too high. According to CBSSports.com's Jason La Canfora, it's "highly unlikely" that Bush will stay with the Dolphins under a new contract.

General manager Jeff Ireland has invested early-round draft picks in Daniel Thomas and Lamar Miller the past two years. With left tackle Jake Long, cornerback Sean Smith, and wide receiver Brian Hartline also due to hit free agency, it doesn't make sense to invest heavily in an aging running back.

Now what I see is a statement based on the ever present "sources". "Sources" could be anything from the owner of the team to a sentient potato with premonitions.

Then Darly, (whom I actually like, but this is bad) basically confirms the potato's premonition by injecting what he thinks makes sense for the team.

Nowhere in any of this is the nature of the source specified nor is it pointed out Darly's take is his opinion and not the truth.

Sure, Bush may be gone, but neither of these guys know that and are guessing like we do.

Too bad imo, Bush's leadership and work ethic will not be easily replaced. I don't see Miller being nearly as skilled as a receiver. Makes RB position a bit thin.

Jeff "lowball" Ireland. Is there any player whether it be a Dolphin player or one from another team Ireland hasn't tried to lowball? Other than Dansby.

"AdamC13 wrote:

Jeff "lowball" Ireland.

He should see a doctor for that.

"padre31 wrote:

Oh yeah, Reggie B is outta here, in fact I expect most of our FA's to leave.

When you hear "lowball" you know what is going to happen, Ireland doesn't want to pay anyone which is one of the reasons why I think Ross keeps him around.

That's horse ****.

Everyone making a deal lowballs at first. Especially when savvy participants like agents and GM's are involved.

"AdamC13 wrote:

Too bad imo, Bush's leadership and work ethic will not be easily replaced. I don't see Miller being nearly as skilled as a receiver. Makes RB position a bit thin.

Jeff "lowball" Ireland. Is there any player whether it be a Dolphin player or one from another team Ireland hasn't tried to lowball? Other than Dansby.

Where the hell are you getting this crap that Bush is leaving because we lowballed him?

It would be a mistake to let Bush walk if his pay demands are reasonable, which I think they would be. He made quite a few big plays last year, and if utilized properly, could further contribute some big plays while minimizing his tendency to have negative plays.

According to some we should overpay for our under-performing FA's.

I applaud a GM that tells them to screw off. Much better than GM's in the past that extended scrubs like Chambers or other under-performing guys that were elite only according to our rabid fans and nobody else.

Reggie had two stellar games last year. The rest were pedestrian. That isn't top FA money in my book. Peace out, go rob another team.

If you truly love South Florida and believe in the system, give us a hometown discount. If not go test the market and come back here when nobody gives you what you think you are worth.

"djphinfan wrote:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000131914/article/reggie-bushs-future-with-miami-dolphins-looks-bleak

I wouldn't of posted this unless he used the those words, maybe he knows somethin?

Well, so far it's highly unlikely we sign Reggie, Hartline wants #1 WR money and Long wants $10m, $2m over what the going rate is for elite LTs....it's likely we don't re-sign anyone at this rate.....

or is it ??

Somewhat expected this. I think Jeff Ireland really likes Lamar Miller and maybe there's something we don't know as to why he didn't more touches last year. But he looked pretty good when he did get touches, for the most part. Daniel Thomas on the other hand seems to injury prone to me, and while he did get better at scoring in the redzone, he still strikes me as pretty ineffective doing most things other than pass-blocking. People have touched on Jonas Gray's potential return from injury, but we really can't know anything until he's out there.

I wonder if Reggie's leaving means there's room for Eddie Lacy, Stepfan Taylor, or someone like that to partner with Miller.

I'm not a blind Ireland supporter, but attacking him because he won't back up the Brinks truck to a 28 year old running back when we have arguably 3 quality young players at the position under contract for 2013, a position widely accepted to be the most easily replaceable in the league, that's good comedy right there.

"jdang307 wrote:

He should see a doctor for that.

:lol: That just happens with age..

*shrug*

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Well, so far it's highly unlikely we sign Reggie, Hartline wants #1 WR money and Long wants $10m, $2m over what the going rate is for elite LTs....it's likely we don't re-sign anyone at this rate.....

or is it ??

Or they test the market and realize, oh snap, nobody is going to overpay for me.. And if they do, be thankful it isn't us. If we play hardball and get them for less, we win.

Win win in my book.

My fantasy teams want Reggie gone, hello Miller Time!

"Bumrush wrote:

According to some we should overpay for our under-performing FA's.

I applaud a GM that tells them to screw off. Much better than GM's in the past that extended scrubs like Chambers or other under-performing guys that were elite only according to our rabid fans and nobody else.

Reggie had two stellar games last year. The rest were pedestrian. That isn't top FA money in my book. Peace out, go rob another team.

If you truly love South Florida and believe in the system, give us a hometown discount. If not go test the market and come back here when nobody gives you what you think you are worth.

I thought our coaches all but admitted they misused him last year. When they did use him right, he contributed.

At least that's what I remember

"Bumrush wrote:

If you truly love South Florida and believe in the system, give us a hometown discount. If not go test the market and come back here when nobody gives you what you think you are worth.

He's from Cali and has only been here for 2 years. I don't know where a hometown discount comes into play.

"Fin D wrote:

That's horse ****.

Everyone making a deal lowballs at first. Especially when savvy participants like agents and GM's are involved.

Not at all FinD, how the NFL "works" is if you really are interested in keeping a player, you negotiate before the season of their last yr to avoid all of this, if one is mildly interested or not at all, you simply don't bother.

There is a slew of players Ireland did not bother with, really the only one he went out of his way to resign was Cam Wake.

"jdang307 wrote:

I thought our coaches all but admitted they misused him last year. When they did use him right, he contributed.

At least that's what I remember

I'm not saying he can't contribute.. But if he doesn't fit their scheme or if they can't figure out how to utilize him properly on the field, what's the point of resigning him to big money?

...And now comes the next part...

People assuming the story is true, and either being mad at or praising the team for it.

Hmmm, so all these guys' agents got their "Dolphins low ball FA X!" stories out last week and the Dolphins respond with "Dolphins unlikely to re-sign FA X!" leaks.

This is how negotiations go every off season. It's just using the media for leverage.

"padre31 wrote:

Not at all FinD, how the NFL "works" is if you really are interested in keeping a player, you negotiate before the season of their last yr to avoid all of this, if one is mildly interested or not at all, you simply don't bother.

There is a slew of players Ireland did not bother with, really the only one he went out of his way to resign was Cam Wake.

Cam Wake is the only true Pro Bowl quality player out of that group. The rest are either borderline Pro Bowl or inconsistent on a weekly basis.

This team needs play-makers on both sides of the ball that bring it 16 weeks a year. Not RB's that rush for 150 yards one week and then combine for 150 the next 4.

"padre31 wrote:

Not at all FinD, how the NFL "works" is if you really are interested in keeping a player, you negotiate before the season of their last yr to avoid all of this, if one is mildly interested or not at all, you simply don't bother.

There is a slew of players Ireland did not bother with, really the only one he went out of his way to resign was Cam Wake.

Yeah ok padre. Sure thing. Every player a team wants to retain gets a new deal before their deal is up, only Ireland doesn't do that. Sigh.