I think I have seen about 50 mock drafts and they're all either G, LB or DE. However, last time I checked, Gase was an offensive guru and would the temptation of a play-maker on offense be too good to pass up at 22 (or where they pick)? I know Grier is the GM and Tannenbaum the VP. Look, I get it. Horrible defense for 2 1/2 years, can't get off the field, gives up big plays and clock-killing drives. It's like preaching to the choir. But for Miami to take the next step and think impact this year, immediate impact, do you all see a scenario where they take the TE (as stated in prior post) WR, or RB, because of the uncertainty of Parker, Carroo, Thomas and Jarvis - Parker and Carroo from production, Thomas from health and Jarvis long-term? For example, let's argue and say McAffrey is available. Does his dynamic pass-catching abilities make one salivate to have him on the field, with Thomas, Parker, Landry and Stills? Think about that match-up nightmare. No defense has that much talent not to be exploited on 5 match ups.
I think what I am getting at, is a potentially (again) deadly offense the panacea for the bad defense? Or can Burke get enough from the players on the field, a draft after round 1 and June 1 cuts? Miami went 10-6 last year with a bad defense, but there were games and drives last year, offensively, that made you scratch your head. And when Miami is dysfunctional on offense, they get real dysfunctional. I think Thomas helps, but a McCaffrey or a dependable WR, if Parker can't stay healthy, could take this team to new heights, just as well.
No one will remember this, however, in 2006, the Vikings had a 27 year old back, Chester Taylor, coming off 303 attempts and 1,200 yards. What the Vikings do the next year? Added AP, 1,300 yards 12 TD's and still got 800 yards from Taylor. I know what the replies will be on this. However, I don't care how good your defense is supposed to be, teams like NE and GB will find a way to exploit it. Sometimes it's about who has the ball last
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Just some stats:
Average rank of SB winning defense (by points allowed): 5.5
Average rank of SB winning offense (by points scored): 6.3
Percent of times SB winning defense was NOT top 10: 13.7%
Percent of times SB winning offense was NOT top 10: 19.6%
Cases where unbalanced team with defense below average (#17 or lower) AND offense top 10 won SB:
2006 Colts (#23 defense, #2 offense)
2009 Saints (#20 defense, #1 offense)
2011 Giants (#25 defense, #9 offense)
Of course, that's Peyton Manning in his prime, Drew Brees in his prime and Eli Manning with an amazing post-season performance we're talking about.
Proper strategy is to build a balanced team, and if anything you want defense to be stronger.Surfs Up 99, danmarino and Finster like this. -
Good stats
Miami was 24th in overall offense. 17th in points. Atlanta was 25th in defense and 2nd in offense. Unfortunately they were 2nd in offense in the first half and 25th in defense in the 2nd half
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Something else interesting.. the influence of the salary cap on offensive and defensive rankings for SB winners.
From 1966-1993 during pre-salary cap era, the average defensive rank for SB winners was 4.4 and average offensive rank was 5.3, while for salary-cap era (including that 2010 "uncapped" year) the average defensive rank for SB winners was 6.9 and for offense it was 7.5. So that shows you how salary cap has made it harder for a team to dominate.
Also.. the only cases where you had unbalanced SB winners, either offense or defense, where by "unbalanced" at least one of the units was ranked #17 or lower, occurred in the salary cap era starting with the Bucs in 2002 where they had the #1 defense (by points allowed) and #18 offense (by points scored).
And the ONLY case where a SB winner was not ranked top 10 in either offense or defense was in salary cap era: Giants in 2007 (#16 on defense, #14 on offense).
So while balanced is still the way to go, it's not as important now compared to pre-salary cap.danmarino likes this. -
I guess the question is sustainability. I think it will be hard to maintain a defense elite enough to go deep in the playoffs, year after year. On offense, as long as the qb is solid, you can keep getting pieces for him. I don't think we can win 5 super bowls over the next 10 years,but I think by having an elite offense, we can be in the mix year in and year out. Look at Pitt, Denver with Peyton, Indy w Peyton, GB and NE.
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The average change (from 1966) in offensive ranking per year for the Dolphins is 5.9 (by points scored) and 5.0 (by yards), while the average change in defensive ranking per year for the Dolphins is 7.5, both by points allowed and by yards allowed. So, at least for the Dolphins there is on average a greater change in defensive rankings from one year to the next than in offensive rankings.danmarino likes this. -
The reality is that the offense has enough weapons at this time to get this team to the playoffs.
What they don't have is a defense that can get them past the first round of the playoffs. The fact is that the defense is bottom tier and the only thing that will change this is for them to dedicate all their early picks to the defense.
I will be extremely surprised and very disappointed if they don't draft defensive players in the early rounds of the draft. In fact I would be happy if they use all their draft picks this year on defensive players.danmarino likes this. -
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The fact is that over the last quarter of the 2016 season, the Dolphins defense was terrible and may have been the worst overall defense in the league by seasons end.
While the Dolphins still need to add a guard on offense. I believe that if Pouncey can avoid injury in 2017 and granted that is a BIG if. A healthy Pouncey will upgrade the play of the entire offensive line,IMO.
I just see the defense as the real weakness on this team and drafting offensive players early in the 2017 draft isn't going to upgrade a defense which still has to be considered near the bottom in the NFL.
I think the Dolphins are still at least 3 years away from being a legitimate SB contender. Therefore they have the time to draft more offensive weapons in future drafts. This year though, I think upgrading the defense with younger talent for the future is far more important than trying to add another offensive player in the early rounds of the draft. .
Also other than Fournette, who I seriously doubt will be on the board when the Dolphins draft in the first round. There isn't another offensive player I would want to see the Dolphins draft in the first round. -
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A good draft, followed by another one in 2018, along with some good free agent signings and this team will be ready for a deep playoff run. We don't need another three years, you should be competing by year three -IF you do it right.
After watching Jordan depart, and knowing what a waste of time/money/resources it was to draft him? As much as I think the defense needs a lot of help, I will be happy even if they go offense -as long as the player turns into at least a decent starter. -
If we draft offense it should only be guard. Defense has more holes, and is a higher priority as this moment. Your clearly in love with these tight ends in this year's draft (this being like your third post on the subject Lol.) However, we already brought in two free agent tight ends. One being the clear starter if he stays healthy, and the other if he doesn't. LB, DE, or G First round in my opinion.
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I think it's a great topic dirty, how to win in today's NFL, go full metal on offense, defense, or build a balanced team..
I think you go for balance, however don't draft good players to fit needs instead of great ones that don't.manuver the draft if you have to, worry about accrued assets later. -
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I think the offense comes down to two major factors that will determine its success...the obvious, better protection and overall play from the unit.and two, the QB understands what it means to convert at all costs..
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I think the offensive struggles were directly related to a couple of things.
Injuries and a new system.
If the oline had stayed healthy and RT had not of been injured they would have put up a lot more points.
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In the 1st I'm taking BPA, which will be a defender, CB, DE,DT,LB, it doesn't really matter which, we need as many quality defenders as we can get, no projects. -
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Not sure about McDowell. It is said he has all the talent, but is lazy. I think if we had Kacy Rogers instead of Williams as DL coach then I would probably go for it.
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aint no way anyone can convince me that a player like McDowell could come into our locker room and disrupt or be lazy on the practice field, weight rooms, let along the games.
so I do believe that is the current atmosphere with Nsuh and Wake being the leaders, reshape jones is a man, Landry will call you out..we have the guy to change the habits of some punks so if their that gifted, maybe take your chance, you've worked hard on developing the locker room to take care of it.Surfs Up 99 likes this. -
If we take him, I hope you are right. I do agree that thanks to Gase our culture has changed. That will help with some guys, but some like Dion Jordan, for some reason, just couldn't get on board. Still SMH on that one. Who wouldn't want to be part of our organization now? The guy's head must really be messed up.
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