Well this is a strange and sad story...
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This is a horrible omen my friends...
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EDIT: Thank You for fixing itLast edited: May 1, 2008 -
ill post whatever the F i want:shifty::tongue2:HardKoreXXX likes this. -
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Umm, don't you guys think that this is a sad story?
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i was watching no country for old men with my sister and wife.....they show multiple dead bodies on the ground.....silence.....they pan out and there is a dead dog, both of them at the same time say "awwwwwwww poor dog"
like seriously? I paused the movie....5 or 6 humans lost their lives, who cares....but a dog is dead and its "awwwww"
like how mike vick is in jail yet pacman is apart of a shooting that left a man who was going to school paralized and he gets rewarded with a 4 year contract for the playoff and maybe superbowl bound cowboys....its ridiculous imo
where are the people protesting for that guy who got shot for standing outside at the wrond place at the wrong time??? But there is thousands of people outside the courthouse sayign "poor dog this" and "poor dog that"
all in all.....im just upset i guess there isnt more sadness or even a 2nd thought for humans that have accidently or sadly lost their livesFrumundah Finnatic and brandon27 like this. -
I understand that point, but I've seen plenty of threads here and on the other site about people who have died under irregular circumstances and there have been expressions of sadness. But, even if you don't see those threads, it shouldn't undervalue the tragedy here.
To me life is life. A dolphin, unlike many other creatures, is an intelligent, feeling entity. It feels fear and love. Dogs too, have those feelings and anyone who's ever owned one knows that they can be hurt emotionally.
When you get down to it, anthropocentrism is really the same mentality as racism. It wasn't long ago that you could have shown different circumstances, substituted "black man" for "dolphin" and someone may have reacted the same way, that a white died and there wasn't any outpouring of feeling. -
i dont think you were, but it seemed a bit there you were calling me a racist......hope not, cause i am not.
I was not down playing the events of animals or any other creatures dying, or even putting humans on a pedistol over them......its flip flopped, society puts animals and other creatures above human life....like in the movie "iam legend" for example...(i keep using movies because you see first and immediate reaction at the theatre from people, and i have never seen a death in person i couldnt use that for example) Millions apon millions of people died, will smith is ALONE......NOTHING.....but his dog dies.....people crying, saying "awww" and whispering "thats so sad".....why not for humans!?!? P-E-O-P-L-E DIED.....yet everyone upset over the dog dying, i just think society in general dont care as much about human life, as animals.....who like it or not....are beneath us.....they are pets....
humans are brothers, sisters mothers and fathers....yet no one cares as much its sad imo -
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You both make great points. SFF is right, we do seem to value the lives of animals moreso than humans on occasion. War and the nightly news (and movies, music, etc) may have desensitized us to an extent. Animals seem to be innocent in our eyes whereas men can be evil.
Miamian you seem to have more of a 'John Lennon' take on the matter. By that I mean you're a dreamer. If everyone thought the way you did the world would be a much better place no doubt. I agree strongly with your points though.Last edited: May 1, 2008 -
i mean....they walk around naked, eatign anything, dont have the intelligence to think about consequences before doing things, they dont go to school,. they dont drive cars or own buisnesses, they are pets for humans.....i dont see how they are on the same platform as us.....i just find it sad people are beneath animals when it comes to life in general populations opinions -
"tonight on cnn another soldier has died by accident when a helicopter crashed"
Humans-- Oh that stinks.....NEXT
"a dog was hit by a car today and died instantly"
Humans- Awwww omg thats so sad.....why didnt the driver see it?! Poor dog was probably trying to get food......that person should lose his license awwww....man thats so sad -
I really don't think that most people value animals more than humans. It might just be what Sickfinfan said, that they have an aura of innocence. -
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SICK and HardKoreXXX like this.
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Even so, IMHO, anything/anyone that feels fear, love, anger, pain, et al deserves sympathy.SICK likes this. -
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Do we actually run the world or is it G-d? That's a whole other debate altogether, but it underscores what I see as anthropocentric attitude.
I can put this another way. The mentally handicapped are also not as intelligent as people without handicaps and are not capable of everything that a person with full mental capabilities can do. You wouldn't find a mentally handicapped person as the president of a bank or country. Does that mean that they deserve less sympathy when they die under irregular circumstances? -
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heres another example....that horse, that broke his ankle Barbaro.....he broke his ankle, and people were putting flowers outside of the barn and praying for it and stuff.....yerimiah bell tears his achillies and no one gives a rats ***......why? Who knows...its just sad imo -
its about dolphins colliding.... how we ended up on palestine and israel from that story is beyond me. :up: -
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wow... comparing euthanizing horses to football players with injuries? perhaps you should join PETA dude! :up:
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This is officially the weirdest debate ever.
BTW ... you have my permission to laugh at this.texasPHINSfan, HardKoreXXX and unluckyluciano like this. -
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yikes!! I didnt think posting this story would stir such a debate! I just thought it was a strange news item, and sad at the same time and posted it only because they were dolphins and i thought people would find it strange as well that an incident as odd as this could happen. Plus.. theyre dolphins. were THE dolphins. it just fits :up:
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vy do yoo vant to talk to snowflake? do yoo KNOW heem? does he call yoo at HOME?
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Almost as cool as "The smartest animals ever" smacking into one another despite all their sonar and huuuge brains. I don't have that much sympathy for the blasted fish thieves, Killer Whales are way cooler. -
Too bad about the real dolphin here though:sad:
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