LeBronamania bigger than Marino/Shula?

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BlameItOnTheHenneBlameItOnTheHenneforum_veteranOP
Oct 11, 2010, 04:40 PM

This is a Jemele Hill article so brace yourself.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=5672996

That's a tantalizing enough possibility to have everyone rushing to capitalize on or be connected to LeBron, who -- brace yourself -- could eventually be bigger in South Florida than both Dan Marino and Don Shula.

SICKSICKforum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 04:41 PM

20 years from now? probably.

DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 05:05 PM

"SICK wrote:

20 years from now? probably.

This.

But for now, in South Florida, Marino and Shula have dandruff more prominent than LeBron.

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RickyBobbyRickyBobbyNew Member
Oct 11, 2010, 05:08 PM

Lebron will never be bigger than Wade down here. And Wade will never be bigger than Marino and shula. Lebron may be a bigger name bnationally than Wade but I have to believe the fans see him as the leader.

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 05:10 PM

Well, the day it happens, I'm sure ESPN will air a r hour special about it. :shifty:

High DefinitionHigh DefinitionNew Member
Oct 11, 2010, 05:12 PM

I can't stand Jemele Hill and I don't think I have it in me to sit down and read an entire article written by her, but I definitely agree with the quoted text. Certainly.

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High DefinitionHigh DefinitionNew Member
Oct 11, 2010, 05:14 PM

"Desides wrote:

This.

But for now, in South Florida, Marino and Shula have dandruff more prominent than LeBron.

Agreed, though Dwyane Wade has surpassed Dan Marino in my eyes and Pat Riley is pretty damn close to Don Shula. If this team succeeds, he'll jump him as well. I know most people will disagree, but that's just how I feel. I am equally a fan of the Dolphins and Heat so there is no bias there, though I will admit.... a lot of what Shula did here was done before I was even alive, so it's much easier for me to understand and appreciate Pat Riley.

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adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 05:29 PM

I put Jai Alai and dog racing above the Miami Heat.



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muscle979muscle979forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 05:34 PM

They'd have to make a 90s Chicago Bulls type of championship run for that to happen. We're a decade away from Dan's retirement now. Some people don't even remember how good he really was. I don't know how many people in America actually care about basketball more than football. Maybe it's different in Miami. Up here and definitely when I was down in Georgia, football was king. It isn't even close.

Section126Section126luxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 06:20 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

I put Jai Alai and dog racing above the Miami Heat.

You are not a fan of theirs.

You are a resentful, spiteful, hateful, jealous Knicks fan.

The Question was NOT for you.

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Section126Section126luxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 06:22 PM

The answer is this.

Wade has already surpassed Marino. He had the same career trajectory, except that Wade won a title when Dan lost in Palo Alto to SF. That is the only difference.

But as sports heroes, they are at least equals.

This current Heat incarnation is going to have to go nuts and then Pat Riley overtakes Don Shula.

But Dwyane Wade is already the biggest sports star in Miami History.

it also helps that D-Wade is accessible, does alot of charity work, and is perceived as a nice guy.

Dan Marino was and is a complete and utter jerk. (and I consider him a god)

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muscle979muscle979forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 06:49 PM

"Section126 wrote:

The answer is this.

Wade has already surpassed Marino. He had the same career trajectory, except that Wade won a title when Dan lost in Palo Alto to SF. That is the only difference.

But as sports heroes, they are at least equals.

This current Heat incarnation is going to have to go nuts and then Pat Riley overtakes Don Shula.

But Dwyane Wade is already the biggest sports star in Miami History.

it also helps that D-Wade is accessible, does alot of charity work, and is perceived as a nice guy.

Dan Marino was and is a complete and utter jerk. (and I consider him a god)

I just can't agree with that statement. Dwayne Wade has revolutionized the game of basketball? He won't even be the best player on the team this season. He's good but Dan Marino is a living football legend. He is one of the best players ever at any position. I'm not going to type ten pages explaining why it's ridiculous to fault one man on a football team for not winning a championship. Football has a million more components that need to go right to win it all then the other major sports.

adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 06:50 PM

"Section126 wrote:

You are not a fan of theirs.

You are a resentful, spiteful, hateful, jealous Knicks fan.

The Question was NOT for you.

we have gone over this before. due to the fact that basketball was the last of the four sports i got into and the least favorite, i started watching it when larry bird and magic johnson came into the league. i was a celtic fan first, then because i had to choose a new york team, i chose the knicks just in time for the most underrated great player ever bernard king (the billy sims of basketball). i continued with my knick fandom through the pathetic patrick ewing era, suffering through charles smith missing 436 layups in a row, watching ewing play like he was a forward with his 20 foot turnaround fadeaways. watching pat riley personally blow the finals by sticking with a dismal starks shooting 10% in game 7, patrick ewing's missed finger roll vs the pacers and the ridiculous nba theft when the knicks were destroying the heat and the fight broke out. instead of benching all the knicks for the next game the league basically handed the heat the series by splitting the suspensions. after that i gave up on the kniccks. couldnt take the abysmal ewing and the front office. became a nets fan and have been one since.

now that is not to say the knicks couldnt win me back. honestly basketball is so boring and there are so few players that you end up rooting for the players more than the teams but the way my fandom breaksdown is

local team : Nets
national team keeping lakers in 2nd place all time: celtics
spurned lover: knicks

having said all that lebron, wade and whats his name cant compare to the greatness that is Piston I, Joey, Churraca or Rocking Ship R.I.P



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adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 06:52 PM

"Section126 wrote:

The answer is this.

Wade has already surpassed Marino. He had the same career trajectory, except that Wade won a title when Dan lost in Palo Alto to SF. That is the only difference.

But as sports heroes, they are at least equals.

This current Heat incarnation is going to have to go nuts and then Pat Riley overtakes Don Shula.

But Dwyane Wade is already the biggest sports star in Miami History.

it also helps that D-Wade is accessible, does alot of charity work, and is perceived as a nice guy.

Dan Marino was and is a complete and utter jerk. (and I consider him a god)

Dwayne Wade isnt worthy of wiping Dan Marino's @#$



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Section126Section126luxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 06:57 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

we have gone over this before. due to the fact that basketball was the last of the four sports i got into and the least favorite, i started watching it when larry bird and magic johnson came into the league. i was a celtic fan first, then because i had to choose a new york team, i chose the knicks just in time for the most underrated great player ever bernard king (the billy sims of basketball). i continued with my knick fandom through the pathetic patrick ewing era, suffering through charles smith missing 436 layups in a row, watching ewing play like he was a forward with his 20 foot turnaround fadeaways. watching pat riley personally blow the finals by sticking with a dismal starks shooting 10% in game 7, patrick ewing's missed finger roll vs the pacers and the ridiculous nba theft when the knicks were destroying the heat and the fight broke out. instead of benching all the knicks for the next game the league basically handed the heat the series by splitting the suspensions. after that i gave up on the kniccks. couldnt take the abysmal ewing and the front office. became a nets fan and have been one since.

now that is not to say the knicks couldnt win me back. honestly basketball is so boring and there are so few players that you end up rooting for the players more than the teams but the way my fandom breaksdown is

local team : Nets
national team keeping lakers in 2nd place all time: celtics
spurned lover: knicks

having said all that lebron, wade and whats his name cant compare to the greatness that is Piston I, Joey, Churraca or Rocking Ship R.I.P

So much wrong here.......

Leave it to a Knicks fan to bitch about the refs during the Knicks/Heat series of the 90's.

The Heat regularly got screwed by the refs in favor of the New York holes.

it has been that way since time and memorial.

In fact, one of the Donaghey rigged games was a game he rigged in favor of the Knicks over the heat. It's in his book. Look it up. He said the league pushed and "helped" the knicks in the 90's.

There is a ref called "Knick" Bavetta for gods sake.

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Section126Section126luxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 06:59 PM

"muscle979 wrote:

I just can't agree with that statement. Dwayne Wade has revolutionized the game of basketball? He won't even be the best player on the team this season. He's good but Dan Marino is a living football legend. He is one of the best players ever at any position. I'm not going to type ten pages explaining why it's ridiculous to fault one man on a football team for not winning a championship. Football has a million more components that need to go right to win it all then the other major sports.

The question is/was WHO is the bigger deal here in Miami.

The answer is Dwyane Wade, and there is really no debate about that.

There is actual evidence to support it to.

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Section126Section126luxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 07:01 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

Dwayne Wade isnt worthy of wiping Dan Marino's @#$

WHAT would compel you to make this post?

Are you now TRYING to live up to the New York fan stereotype?

Please go root for the Jets. You belong.

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adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 07:01 PM

"Section126 wrote:

So much wrong here.......

Leave it to a Knicks fan to bitch about the refs during the Knicks/Heat series of the 90's.

The Heat regularly got screwed by the refs in favor of the New York holes.

it has been that way since time and memorial.

In fact, one of the Donaghey rigged games was a game he rigged in favor of the Knicks over the heat. It's in his book. Look it up. He said the league pushed and "helped" the knicks in the 90's.

There is a ref called "Knick" Bavetta for gods sake.

so you agree that Rocking Ship was better than Lebron and Wade



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adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 07:01 PM

"Section126 wrote:

WHAT would compel you to make this post?

Are you now TRYING to live up to the New York fan stereotype?

Please go root for the Jets. You belong.

dolphins fan board remember. maybe you should be posting on heatsfreak



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Section126Section126luxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 07:02 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

so you agree that Rocking Ship was better than Lebron and Wade

I am partial to Javi'.

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Section126Section126luxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 07:03 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

dolphins fan board remember. maybe you should be posting on heatsfreak

I already do. maybe you should be posting on Gangreen, jetnation....

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adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 07:06 PM

"Section126 wrote:

I already do. maybe you should be posting on Gangreen, jetnation....

because i think marino is head and shoulders above dwayne wade :lol: clearly you dont understand football or fandom



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DesidesDesidesforum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 07:06 PM

"High Definition wrote:

Agreed, though Dwyane Wade has surpassed Dan Marino in my eyes and Pat Riley is pretty damn close to Don Shula. If this team succeeds, he'll jump him as well. I know most people will disagree, but that's just how I feel. I am equally a fan of the Dolphins and Heat so there is no bias there, though I will admit.... a lot of what Shula did here was done before I was even alive, so it's much easier for me to understand and appreciate Pat Riley.

I don’t blame you at all, but the vast opinion in South Florida has Don Shula as Zeus, Marino as Hercules, and then a Grand Canyon between them and everyone else.

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Section126Section126luxury_box
Oct 11, 2010, 07:16 PM

"adamprez2003 wrote:

because i think marino is head and shoulders above dwayne wade :lol: clearly you dont understand football or fandom

Dwyane Wade. Not "Dwayne."

I understand football and fandom plenty.

I live here remember?

You don't.

The question was WHO is a bigger icon down here in MIAMI.

Dan Marino doesn;t even get the loudest ovations at Heat games.

Dwyane Wade got a standing ovation at the Dolphins/Jets game last year.

Dwyane Wade gets THOUSANDS for a charity autograph signing.

Dan Marino can't sellout his own charity Golf Tournament.

Danny boy is kinda of a jerk in person...people know this. It has effected him.

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adamprez2003adamprez2003forum_veteran
Oct 11, 2010, 07:25 PM

"Section126 wrote:

Dwyane Wade. Not "Dwayne."

I understand football and fandom plenty.

I live here remember?

You don't.

The question was WHO is a bigger icon down here in MIAMI.

Dan Marino doesn;t even get the loudest ovations at Heat games.

Dwyane Wade got a standing ovation at the Dolphins/Jets game last year.

Dwyane Wade gets THOUSANDS for a charity autograph signing.

Dan Marino can't sellout his own charity Golf Tournament.

Danny boy is kinda of a jerk in person...people know this. It has effected him.

typical of the front running nature of the town. marlins, panthers, heat with shaq, but as the fads fade, the dolphins always return to prominence. shula and marino will always overshadow the heat longterm. in the shorterm the heat are the story but if this dolphins team wins a superbowl that will completely overshadow the heat. And thats wwith Henne and Sparano. maybe i'm wrong, but i like to think of miami as a football town first and foremost. in twenty years the perfect season of shula should still hold a higher place then the five early exits the heat make in the playoffs



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