I think the criticism of Ginn for this game is a little harsh. He had one drop. Was it big? Yes. But he made two tougher catches prior to the drop. He would have had a shot at dropping a potential td catch, but Henne underthrew him.
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We were a borderline playoff-caliber team BEFORE we lost our QB, RB, CB, NT, etc. It would have been nice to make the tourney but deep down all of us knew we wouldn't have made any noise. This could be a blessing in disguise, all I'm hoping for for the rest of the season is to get Henne more reps, spank the pats, and fill our holes with a solid FA/Draft.

 

Where was the containment today?
Moses trips over his own two feet
Anderson bites to the inside and gets burned
We missed Matt Roth today
Bills killed us with screens, scrambles and misdirection

 

You're dominating a defense at the line of scrimmage, running at will... you get to the 3 yard line... obviously it's time to attempt to trick the defense! A pass from the halfback! Perfect!! 31-14 Bills F*** my life.

 

The Bills stink. They are terrible. There is no silver lining here, nothing like that. It is an embarrassment to lose to them this season. They are awful. There is no way in any world they are beating the Pats next weekend. None. It will not happen. Not even the slightest chance. Hopefully we can win two or three more games after a loss like this. Then the season won't be a complete disaster.

 

What a horrible loss.

 

fwiw...he also short armed another pass that he catches, or drops, if he goes up for with any heart. Instead he held his hands low and the Bills player knocks it away shoulder high of Ginn. His returns were a joke as well.

That being said....this was a total team loss. Horrible...just horrible.

 

Im feeling the pain right with you:(
No excuse to lose this game.
None!

 

FML about sums up my thoughts as well.

 

I'm not sold on Henne at all, unlike most people.

In my opinion, he has looked good because the line has given him forever to throw the ball in most situations. He has the arm to make all the throws, but I don't believe he has the mind to make quick decisions, or make good pre snap reads.

Also for all the receivers being at fault for dropping balls, maybe if Henne didnt throw lasers 3 feet over their heads that they had to extend fully for on the run, they would catch them.

 

With all due respect, I disagree. First of all, I don't see him having "forever to throw" at all. Some times, yes. And, typically when he does, he goes through his progressions, usually make the right read, and throws the ball with accuracy.

The problem I see is his touch throws, and making decisions and pulling the trigger under pressure. These are things that I believe are attributed to being a young QB. These are things that I expect to see improvement in as his PT increases. He's still what, 5-3 as a starter. And, he's working with what weapons...Ginn, Hartline, Cam, Fasano, etc.? Really? We're gonna judge this QB with that crew of receivers? Personally, I think that's a little unfair.

Just me $.02...

 

Of course it's all just personal opinion. However he's had these problems since his first year of college. They have gotten better...but not so much better that I believe he is going to turn that mental corner.

Also his receivers don't make him fire the ball wide, high, and so on. The deep ball is supposed to be what he brings to the table and he's underthrown Ginn by a LOT 3-4 times so far this season. It's not like he is the sole reason the offense has been scoring points, as everyone seems to give him credit for.

 

Think we'll have to agree to disagree on Henne, Alex. Although, I have to admit I didn't really see much of him play in college. So, my opinion is based solely on what I've seen from him so far this season. So, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Having said that, if I see a game like this from him next season, then I'm likely to be much more critical of him. But, I honestly think it's growing pains combined with no real weapons as far as his receivers go.

And, you're right about receivers not being responsible for him missing throws. Just as Henne isn't responsible for dropped passes by the receivers ad nauseum.

 

I just dont care about him anymore, I really dont.
I just shrug my shoulders when he makes a mistake, because thats what I expect out of him.

 

no, no he has not

 

If it were up to me, Henning would be fired tomorrow

 

if you watch that deep play to ginn, u will see a player running a route with a complete lack of awareness of where he is on the football field.

 

I agree that he should have caught it. Dropping balls like that is one reason why he's not a number one receiver. I just think that if we had a true numher one, Ginn would be a better player for us.
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Yes, yes he has.

It happened this week, if he puts the ball in front of Ginn it's a catch. He had enough of a step to where Henne could have led him with the ball.

I'm not sure if it was Carolina or Tampa, but it also happened on a streak pattern in one of those games as well.

 

It's pretty normal for QBs throws to not be perfect all the time. You just don't notice with a good receiver. Manning's game winning TD pass against the Pats was a very difficult ball to catch, Reggie Wayne made a spectacular catch. What good is a receiver that needs you to hit him in the numbers every time? No QB can do that every single time.

 

How does any of this relate to yesterday's loss? Don't give me the injury nonsense, either. The Bills are perhaps more beat-up in the injury department than Miami.

Blessing in disguise? :lol:

As I said in another thread, I can't think of a more discouraging loss in recent memory.

 

no, you're wrong, cut henne