Yeah I agree. It's getting to be a bit much. How many articles are saying we missed on Flynn, and then we missed on Alex smith? We didn't miss on either of them, we just aren't willing to pay them.

Any other team the media would say "they're being smart and not overpaying for low quality or unknowns"

What we get "no one wants to play for them"

 

The Dolphins have been overpaying for talent ever since Ross and Ireland have been in charge. How else do you explain a team which is 20-28 over the last three years and yet they have very little room under the salary cap? This whole argument that Ireland doesn't want to overpay for players is just not backed up by the facts.

Based on the teams record over the last three years and the salaries these players have been paid, an argument could be made that this is the most overpaid team in the entire NFL.

 

Or Miami is indeed inept. Is it so hard to fathom that a 20-28 team is badly run that we think every piece of information is a "media vendetta"? To me it's seems a little far fetched.

 

media conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seattle has been relevant in the last decade, we haven't. They get a pass.

 

You're totally missing the point!!! Ireland/Ross were bashed, not because they got into an airplane to meet Harbaugh. Rather, they were bashed because they wooed a coach while Sparano was still under contract. You just don't do that.

 

First of all, the point of this thread was to illustrate a team couldn't even get a meeting with Manning and they aren't crucified for it, and we at least got a meeting but our fans act like we're losers.

Secondly, I don't buy for a second you don't talk to one coach while you have another, but even if you don't do that in the NFL, it is done in the business world where Ross is from. So fine, Ross made a rookie mistake being a rookie owner, so what? The most important part of that is Ross (and probably Ireland) recognized Harbaugh would be a good coach.

 

First, that's an interesting point. I did not read the OP that way.

Secondly, Ross/Ireland were universally ripped for talking to Harbaugh while Sparano was still the coach. Universally. Not because "the media hates Miami". Because Ross/Ireland are idiots who don't know what they're doing. Add the stupid double search for a new coach, one headed by Ireland and the other by Peterson, and the Dolphins leadership DESERVE to be bashed.

Don't blame the media. Its an easy cop-out. It prevents you from seeing the fact that this team is a mess.

 

There's no proof there was a "double search" going on. That was media speculation and the negativity that came form that is the media's fault.

As for the Harbaugh thing, did you read what I wrote? I ask because you didn't address a single point I brought up about it.

 

Is this really what it's come down to around here? We're going to blame the fans and the media for the state of the Miami Dolphins, but defend Ireland till blue in the face? Ok. Have fun with that.

 

Forget the whole battle going on here for a second. Please.

Team X & Team Y were never going to get QB 1.

The media blasts Team X, even though they somehow scored at least an interview but the media doesn't blast Team Y.

What's the difference in this specific case? Team X was considered a favorite to get QB 1. Who considered Team X to be a favorite? The media.

Basically what we're looking at here is the media creates an unrealistic hype, then blasts a team for not living up to the made up hype. That is absolutely not fair. Actually, that is absolutely wrong. The only reason more people aren't mad at the media for this is because it made Ireland look worse. But there is just no way...no way...any being rational and honest can say what the media is doing is ok.

 

I'd rather look at the facts and see that the players are talented. The coaching, however, has been atrocious. I've asked this question before ( I received no answer, SHOCKER) "Do you, or anyone else, think that Bill Belichick wouldn't have this team in the playoffs most years?"

 

You mean we did the same thing every team in the league did to their starting QB thus year when Peyton became a free agent. Nobody got ripped for that. IMO Harbaugh was just another Peyton just at a different position. How many teams now this year have to go back and look at their QB like we did Sparano? Quite a few. How many got ripped for it?......

 

The "media" is a reflection of the fans. The dolphin fanbase is the drama club of the NFL. Cowherd had good things to say about Dolphins and the Flynn/Smith situation and not one post. We love our histrionics.

 

I don't believe for a second that owners/GM's don't talk to other coaches while their current coach in still in the building. Ross made the mistake of underestimating the lengths of which the media will go in order to bash this franchise and didn't hide his intentions well enough. As FinD said, rookie mistake, but not really a big deal. Unless you believe the media and Jets fans. I for one, don't believe anything a Jet fans says because I love America. Do you hate America?

 

There was at least one post. I read it and what Cowherd said was 100% correct.

 

I'm not going to say what the media does is fair. But the unfair media treatment is applied to every NFL team. The media doesn't treat the Dolphins any differently than they do any other team. That is to say, if another team did exactly what the Dolphins did, this season, the treatment would be the same. I'll grant you, maybe teams that are bottom feeders get harsher treatment. But you can't blame the media for the team being a bottom feeder. That blame falls on ownership, front office, and (past) coaching.

I agree we never had the chance at Peyton the media painted. But the reason Peyton Manning didn't come here is most likely due to the perception of Steven Ross and Jeff Ireland around the league.

 

So, we have one guy who believes what Jet fans say.

MonstBlitz, why do you hate America?

 

I stand corrected then. I missed it amidst all of the whining. I still stand by my other assertions though.

 

Monst, this is precisely an example of unfair media treatment though.

They aren't treating us like they did Seattle, or Arizona, or Tennessee, or the 49ers, opr anyone else. We are being blasted for things that happened to 31 other teams all because the media themselves created a scenario.

You are so close, to seeing this.....

We don't know why Peyton didn't come here. It could be because of our record. It could be he views us and every other AFC East team as rivals since we all used to be. Or it could be Ross/Ireland. None of us know yet. Either way, that is irrelevant to how we are being portrayed in the media. The problem with that is, the louder the din from the fans is in response to the media, the more they are going to do it, because it sells papers, gets views, etc.

We are feeding the monster that is treating us unfairly by buying into it.

 

They. Deserve. This.

When you are surly and mean to them while being bumbling incompetent idiots, the Media is gonna pile on.

 

Those poor media. How dare they be mean to them.


F*** the media.

 

Yes, it was hard to find while wading through the tears and snot bubbles.

 

Did you not see the media tour they did? Far from surly. Far from mean. Its more access then they've ever been given, even the media admitted that.
That is a clear effort to right the wrongs of the Parcells era.

But hey, whatever. The media has the right. I'll remember your defense of the media the next time they blast the Heat for no good reason.

 

You can plug players for media into the same sentence. Jeff Ireland, meet comeuppance. Reap it.

 

Check out my sig kinda funny ! No?

 

The NATIONAL media hates the Heat. But check the local media. Lapdogs. I wonder why? Access. Competent, smart management.

This organization (Dolphins) is arrogant for no apparent reason, and think they know everything. Even the mainstay of that organization, Harvey Greene is a dweeb.

 

The NATIONAL MEDIA hates the Dolphins too. Stop acting like they don't.

Nice job ignoring what I said about the FO trying to rectify the lack of access in the past this year.

 

I KNOW the National media hates the Fins. But the LOCAL media are no allies either. That they make a mere attempt to rectify that, is no big deal.

They are still not doing enough. Look at the Marlins and Heat. Look at the access they offer. It is almost TOO MUCH.

 

Did you read the OP? He's talking about the national media bias.

What more can they do right now? Tell the media their entire plan?

 

That ship has sailed. Only firing Ireland will begin to change things. The guy is an *******, and evidence is mounting that he is not good at his job. (GM, the guy is probably a very good scout)

 

"This Jeff Ireland hatred is getting more than a tad ridiculous."

----Armando

He's local still, right?

 

Go ask him what he thinks of Ireland. Armando is easily accessible. If you send him an email, he usually responds. Go ahead.

EVERYBODY hates Jeff Ireland here.

 

He just said the hate is getting ridiculous. I'm sure he doesn't agree with everything Ireland does. However, he just wrote that 3 hours ago. So, I don't have to ask him if he hates Ireland. He thinks hating Ireland is ridiculous.

 

of course, the Hate is getting a little ridiculous. it has a life of it's own.

But Jeff Ireland's reputation in this town is ****. You can't find anybody to say a nice thing about him personally.

 

Then yesterday on NFL Network, former Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter blew up Ireland on national television. He blamed the Dolphins inability to close on, say, Peyton Manning and Flynn on Ireland.
"I think Jeff Ireland has a big part to do with it," Porter said. "I don't think when you come in being recruited by him, you totally believe things coming out of his mouth. I think he's a guy that's not trustworthy. He really doesn't hold up to what a GM's supposed to be."
Well, I really don't think Porter holds up to what a man is supposed to be. Porter is a great guy to have on a team when things are good. But as soon as things go bad, he becomes part of the problem. And as soon as he's no longer getting his way or is out of contract, he bites the hand that feeds him. He previously blew up Cam Cameron. He previously blew up Tony Sparano. He previously blew up Mike Tomlin.
The guy has a history for ripping people that either cut him, let him go in free agency, or stood up to him. So while you don't have to dismiss his criticism, at least understand where it originates.
By the way, this idea that Miami can't land anyone is getting on my nerves. No, they didn't get Harbaugh. No, they didn't land Fisher. No, they didn't get Manning. Which one of those was Ireland responsible for?
Manning, of course.
Well, the Dolphins didn't get Manning. And neither did San Francisco, Arizona, or Tennessee. The Jets, Kansas City, and Seattle all have good to outstanding GMs. None of them could even get a meeting with Manning. So Ireland is a bad guy because the Dolphins swung and missed on Peyton Manning?


I am talking to the folks who are thinking for themselves. Break down the moves on their own merit. Tell me what you would have done. Tell me where you would depart from the current course.
Be fair.
Obviously, Ireland hasn't gotten all his moves right in the past. By the way, no one does. And the pressure is on him to land some, you know, actual stars this offseason because the Dolphins don't have any of those.
He might do that. He might not. But I'm not ready to say this guy is the devil for blowing it when we're only one week into free agency and the draft is on the horizon. I don't judge a team's gameday performance in the second quarter.
I wait until the game's over.


http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...nding-the-dolphins-the-pas.html#storylink=cpy

 

It was amazing to see Joey Porter bad mouth Ireland on NFL network, they loved it.
Nobody would suggest that there isn't one QB that after being cut at age 36 won anything, will see what happens.

 

Sec, I think the real story here is once proud franchise can't get back on track, so every mistake is sensationalized, and every move or non move is twisted to fit the story..

I also think that from a national perspective, miami fans are looked at like a fanbase that doesn't support their teams like they should..So the criticism comes from an angle of unlikeability..

 

He actually answers the question in the same article everyone is referencing, but conveniently leaving out this -

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