Lower amount of Dolphins pre-season hype than normal?

Pffff...I was born bat **** crazy in love with the Dolphins. Every year I think we got a chance...never gonna change. Theres lots in life Im cynical about...kinda think its ok to just be fine with drinking the kool aid in this case.

"Clark Kent wrote:

Jeff Ireland's failed tenure lasted six years. No one expected his failures to be undone within one off-season. Failed drafts, inability to acquire and then retain talent, failure to predict roster shortcomings until after the fact, isn't something you come back from quickly. Unfortunately and worse yet, Ireland handed guaranteed money out to FA's like it was candy on Halloween night in 2013. And you're assuming his replacement was guaranteed to be successful. Which we all know isn't true. Especially after every qualified candidate turned us down.

So no, your attempt to make yourself seem smarter for having known Ireland was a great/good/average/qualified GM all along, while the rest of us were too blind to see the truth isn't working.

Lol clearly I'm not as smart as you are. I can't create strawmen or alternate realities devoid of fact on a whim the way you can. Please tell us how many years it's gonna take to produce a winner after Ireland royally screwed things up. Two, three, four seasons? Or will people be calling for Philbin and Hickey to be fired if they don't make the playoffs in 2014?

Plus....Id miss getting to "hang out" with some awsome possums like yall

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Pffff...I was born bat **** crazy in love with the Dolphins. Every year I think we got a chance...never gonna change. Theres lots in life Im cynical about...kinda think its ok to just be fine with drinking the kool aid in this case.

Haha. I'm the exact same way. When it comes to the Dolphins I never run out of faith.

"GMJohnson wrote:

I was expecting more optimism, borderline giddyness, now that what's his name is no longer the GM. I heard a million times that he was the reason we weren't winning, now he's gone and people are looking around like "now what?".

Well the coach is still here

"padre31 wrote:

Season Tix sales are up 17%, the real problem is we ended last yr terribly

Our main offensive weapon, Wallace was mismatched to our young Qb, if you have a Game Breaker you have to make it happen

Myself and 8 of my friends have all bought season (multiple) tix for this season - the reason why ?!?!? Jeff Ireland was fired. That alone gave us all enough hope to once again become season tix

"GMJohnson wrote:

Lol clearly I'm not as smart as you are.

But you like to pretend to be, amirite? :shifty:

I can't create strawmen or alternate realities devoid of fact on a whim the way you can.

Yes... alternate realities. Devoid of facts.

Please tell us how many years it's gonna take to produce a winner after Ireland royally screwed things up. Two, three, four seasons?

It depends. Too many variables to determine the true measure of the aftershock that is Ireland's failed reign. Assuming that Ireland's successor(s) are going to be successful, simply because they're not Jeff Ireland is faulty. We do know of some of Philbin's disagreements with Ireland. We know that Philbin was right and Ireland was wrong. That's encouraging, but not definitive.

Or will people be calling for Philbin and Hickey to be fired if they don't make the playoffs in 2014?

Probably. And those people may be right. Maybe they won't be. Philbin/Hickey may not have the time necessary to fix Ireland's mess, even if they're capable. And really, that's Ross's fault to being with. Ross bungled the whole situation by forcing Ireland and Philbin onto each other instead of hiring one and letting that person pick their own Coach/GM, and giving them both equal time to build a winner.

Now, we have a GM & Coach situation that is exactly the same as 2012, only the roles are reversed, with the embattled coach on the hotseat with a fresh new GM (that was given the job only because because everyone more qualified/desired declined it). People mocked Cleveland for hiring and firing Chud after one year. Really, we're no better off. Worse maybe because the waters are so muddied. What can I say? Miami is a cluster**** of an organization.

"FinNasty wrote:

I'm as die hard as they come DJ... and football season snuck up on me this year. Had nothing to do with culture...

Ok I guess, I don't get it myself, I'm as Excited as ever, to me it's always about trying to evolve and the process that comes with it, I'm excited because it's the head coach and qbs time to either sh@& or get off the pot.

"vt_dolfan wrote:

Plus....Id miss getting to "hang out" with some awsome possums like yall

Don't know what you have until it gets taken away.

I'm always excited, and always optimistic, about the Dolphins. And this season is no different, can't wait until the games start.

Of course, the excitement and optimism don't often last long once the games start. :lol:

"RhodyPhinsFan wrote:

I'm not optimistic, but I wasn't very optimistic the last two years either. I also think getting New England week one is a disaster. They will probably be untouchable for about the first month and I fully expect them to run up the score on us.

NE doesn't concern me. Last year they got bailed out of one loss by the refs and we totally thrashed them in our second meeting...

Jest and Bills worry me far more because they seem to come out of nowhere, from zero to hero (only when they play against us, of course) and have their best games of the season while we have our worst.

"Tannehill wrote:

NE doesn't concern me. Last year they got bailed out of one loss by the refs and we totally thrashed them in our second meeting...

Jest and Bills worry me far more because they seem to come out of nowhere, from zero to hero (only when they play against us, of course) and have their best games of the season while we have our worst.

NE should have Wilfork Mayo and Gronkowski in Week 1.

None of them played Week 16 last year and yet Tom Brady was still throwing passes into the end zone to win the game in the final seconds.

To not be concerned about NE is foolish.

No news might be the best news this time of year. Injuries, DWI, domestic abuse, failed drug tests, seem to be the hot topic on NFL site so the less the better.

"schmolioot wrote:

NE should have Wilfork Mayo and Gronkowski in Week 1.

None of them played Week 16 last year and yet Tom Brady was still throwing passes into the end zone to win the game in the final seconds.

To not be concerned about NE is foolish.

As long as Brady is out there we better be concerned.

"djphinfan wrote:

Ok I guess, I don't get it myself, I'm as Excited as ever, to me it's always about trying to evolve and the process that comes with it, I'm excited because it's the head coach and qbs time to either sh@& or get off the pot.

Well, you admittedly aren't hardcore about other sports or teams. As a huge Heat fan... it kept me occupied this offseason. Even in past years, where we went to the Finals and/or won... after the Finals were over there was a sports lull and I was begging for football. This year, with the LeBron watch and important FA offseason for the team... it kept me occupied all the way until camp broke. I can't believe it's already here. It came out of no where...

"Clark Kent wrote:

But you like to pretend to be, amirite? :shifty:

Yes... alternate realities. Devoid of facts.

It depends. Too many variables to determine the true measure of the aftershock that is Ireland's failed reign. Assuming that Ireland's successor(s) are going to be successful, simply because they're not Jeff Ireland is faulty. We do know of some of Philbin's disagreements with Ireland. We know that Philbin was right and Ireland was wrong. That's encouraging, but not definitive.

Probably. And those people may be right. Maybe they won't be. Philbin/Hickey may not have the time necessary to fix Ireland's mess, even if they're capable. And really, that's Ross's fault to being with. Ross bungled the whole situation by forcing Ireland and Philbin onto each other instead of hiring one and letting that person pick their own Coach/GM, and giving them both equal time to build a winner.

Now, we have a GM & Coach situation that is exactly the same as 2012, only the roles are reversed, with the embattled coach on the hotseat with a fresh new GM (that was given the job only because because everyone more qualified/desired declined it). People mocked Cleveland for hiring and firing Chud after one year. Really, we're no better off. Worse maybe because the waters are so muddied. What can I say? Miami is a cluster**** of an organization.

Huh? What was Philbin right and Ireland wrong about? Branden Albert? OK I'll give you that one, even though I'm sure Ireland felt he could get Albert in 2014 w/o giving up a 2nd round pick (and missing out on Dion Jordan), which is what happened after he left anyway.

What about Brandon Marshall, Bush, Dansby, Burnett? Who's idea was it to move away from the 3-4? Seems to me there were a lot of disagreements and neither Philbin nor Ireland can be considered "right".

Seems to me that if Ireland was such a bad GM then Philbin must be a great coach in order to squeeze a .500 record and nearly make the playoffs despite his poor roster. Ironically, you disagree with the logical conclusion of your own arguement. Philbin was right and Ireland wrong you say. So the org lets Irish go and keeps Philbin...aaaand Instead of applauding you pull a new theory, that the whole organization sucks, out of thin air.

Seems like you're just gonna ***** and moan about something, someone, it doesn't really matter what, until the team wins. Which is fine, but you're trying to present it in the form of a rationale arguement and clearly it is not.

"schmolioot wrote:

NE should have Wilfork Mayo and Gronkowski in Week 1.

None of them played Week 16 last year and yet Tom Brady was still throwing passes into the end zone to win the game in the final seconds.

To not be concerned about NE is foolish.

NE is still the best team in the division, no doubt. But we beat them with Will Davis, Jimmy Wilson and Michael Thomas playing CB down the stretch, a bad OL, no run game, and only 3 NFL receivers so I don't wanna hear about who the Pats were playing without. They got beat, period. And if the refs hadn't helped them out in October they probably would've got swept.

"GMJohnson wrote:

NE is still the best team in the division, no doubt. But we beat them with Will Davis, Jimmy Wilson and Michael Thomas playing CB down the stretch, a bad OL, no run game, and only 3 NFL receivers so I don't wanna hear about who the Pats were playing without. They got beat, period. And if the refs hadn't helped them out in October they probably would've got swept.

The post I responded to said we "smashed" them the second game which we clearly did not do.

We'll see what happens in 6 weeks or so.

"54Fins wrote:

First off it's 100F outside and the first two practices were during the weekday. Many.... (I hope) people work.
Today's practice was for the prissy season ticket holders, so most of the ones that have Club Level tix were not present.
Just my imo, lol.

I might be able to make it to practice tomorrow morning, I am trying to find out if it's padded or not. Anyone have any info on this?

"schmolioot wrote:

The post I responded to said we "smashed" them the second game which we clearly did not do.

We'll see what happens in 6 weeks or so.

Lol ok my bad. It does feel good to say "smashed" tho!

Those last two games against Buffalo and NY kind of made me throw in the towel on serious playoff hopes. Those last two games were about a notch below that Miami-Jax playoff game, yeah that bad.

The football season kind of snuck up on me, I was just thinking damn preseason games in a couple of weeks? What? It seems like the draft was just a little while ago, the NBA Finals were enjoyable, the NBA free agency period, The Decision II, World Cup, etc. Seems like the offseason just kinda ended and training camp started with a whisper. I'm not getting myself up too high with the Dolphins because honestly this year could spiral downward quickly, I hope that it doesn't.

I love what Mike Wallace said. "They're sleeping on us. We're going to wake their ass up."

I am always pumped up and ready for football season and my Phins! But, I do admit that my exuberance has been tempered this year due to our recent history. They are going to have to show me something this year before I get full on nuts again.

"GMJohnson wrote:

Huh? What was Philbin right and Ireland wrong about? Branden Albert? OK I'll give you that one, even though I'm sure Ireland felt he could get Albert in 2014 w/o giving up a 2nd round pick (and missing out on Dion Jordan), which is what happened after he left anyway.

What about Brandon Marshall, Bush, Dansby, Burnett? Who's idea was it to move away from the 3-4? Seems to me there were a lot of disagreements and neither Philbin nor Ireland can be considered "right".

Seems to me that if Ireland was such a bad GM then Philbin must be a great coach in order to squeeze a .500 record and nearly make the playoffs despite his poor roster. Ironically, you disagree with the logical conclusion of your own arguement. Philbin was right and Ireland wrong you say. So the org lets Irish go and keeps Philbin...aaaand Instead of applauding you pull a new theory, that the whole organization sucks, out of thin air.

Seems like you're just gonna ***** and moan about something, someone, it doesn't really matter what, until the team wins. Which is fine, but you're trying to present it in the form of a rationale arguement and clearly it is not.

So, you're confused that I answered your questions? I'm going to stop feeding the trolls.

i'm still riding on that world cup title wave, but its getting there, i just did my first fantasy football draft yesterday, that pouncey injury sucked a lot of excitement out of me, i'm scared of another oline disaster but jarvis landry and the news about mike wallace lining up all over the place made it up a little