This can't be obvious to only me:
100% fabricated. I bet he was coached to get close to Incognito because of his past. Why couldn't the JETS have drafted this prick? !!!!!!!!!!
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I don't think this is something he set up years ago, if it was he wouldn't have participated in the behavior himself. His "case" is very flimsy when you add in his own text messages talking to Incognito the same way Incognito talks to him. I think he is angling to get the rest of his pay from us but I don't see this ending up in a drawn out court case. He will get his release from us and go somewhere else with his money in his pocket.
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It's a really bad argument. Martin did not position himself to be harassed, have his NFL career ended, and suffer public embarrassment so that he could win a court case.
I don't think this cunning detective work takes into consideration Martin's psychological issues, either.Mainge, Deerless Dice, JimToss and 2 others like this. -
That's a ridiculous idea. Its way too conspiracy theory.
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I don't understand why a perfectly reasonable idea that his mom ran with this AFTER he left the team has to be turned into a ridiculous and complicated scheme that spans decades as if Christopher Nolan wrote it for Batman 4.
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Ridiculous.
A scheme hatched years ago when her son ended up being a second round pick having the potential to earn MILLIONS of dollars over his career? Not to mention the public shame/backlash her son will get. Makes no sense.
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It is amazing how people will warp facts if they feel sufficiently defensive.
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I'm not buying a scheme launched years ago. I would like to know when he made his parents aware of what was going on with Richie and other players. Regardless, I think Richie is getting screwed. If VM's and texts were released at the same, that they were between two players and then the team was told to deal with it it would be a very different situation right now. Both players would be disciplined. Honestly I don't think any of it should be a huge deal, but there is no way using the "N" word in that context trumps "kill your family".
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There's a tremendous amount objectionable, and worthy of national attention here outside the context of your own insular racial concerns. -
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I don't know about conspiracies but I find it quite credible that Martin wasn't happy, (he tried to quit before the season started) had repeated conversations with his parents about being unhappy. Then after having a terrible start to his starting left tackle dream got council from his lawyer mom on how to protect his money in case he quit or got cut.
Who keeps old voice mails which at this time, based on the texts Martin sent to Incognito seem to be how these guys mess around with each other?
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It's a story at all because it's stunning ineptness and mismanagement from what is supposed to be a professional, competently-run organization. -
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I don't believe it was planned all along, but I do believe that it wasn't bullying or workplace harassment in anybody's mind until after Martin left the team and the lawyers (including his mom) got involved. I am curious to hear Martin's statement to see if he'll change his tune from his text right after he left the team where he basically discredited the reports of bullying. My guess is that he will due to pressure from his mom and attorney. I think that's why he's refusing to do an interview and is instead going to do a statement that can be rehearsed, reviewed (by legal counsel) and refined before being released.
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Keeping voice mails is different. I don't know anyone who doesn't delete them after listening to them.
Might be innocent but his lawyers jumped out with them pretty fast. Brian Hartline said that he had played it in the locker room and was laughing about it. He said Martin knew it was a joke.
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You know what I want to know? Where are all of the sports psychologists? Whenever there is any bad behavior in sports, you hear from sports psychologists discussing the mentality of athletes in sports and why they do "this" or "that", trying to get people to "understand".
Now, I'm not looking for some psychologist to rationalize or discuss the mentality in an effort to condone what has happened in our locker room (or any other locker room for that matter), but if nothing else, acknowledge that it does indeed exist and perhaps extinguish the flames of the headline by drawing attention to the fact that the locker room of the Miami Dolphins isn't the ONLY place where this mentality exists. -
so, because they aren't enemies, and therefore really shouldn't have such harsh feelings it suddenly means MORE?
and you are saying he knew he had psychological issues based on a rant from his obviously insane father, but lets assume he knew he had issues, are we really judging him for not knowing the proper way to deal with it? he's an offensive lineman not a psychiatrist. it's martins job to find help, not expect the people around him to know how to deal with it, especially if he saw Martin participating, maybe in Incognitos head busting balls with him made him feel more accepted, and he was helping him. -
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I think Martin being moved from LT likely played a much larger role than anything Incognito did.
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