McDaniel is here to stay

Well, good for him that he has a payday but if Ross wants to fire him, that money doesn't come out of the salary cap.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Well, good for him that he has a payday but if Ross wants to fire him, that money doesn't come out of the salary cap.

The point is the organization has faith in what McD is doing and it looks like we have some stability at the HC position. Something we haven’t had since Wanny.

Continuity to evolve the scheme and Qb.

Capitalize on the culture which is already been happening that this guy created.

While you could imagine the seat getting hot if they flamed out this year you can't really expect a different coach to get more out of Tua and Tua isn't going anywhere.

If a change ends up needing to be made its someone else calling the plays and nothing more.

Hes earned it. Our franchise has not looked better since the mid 80s.. there were later years we made playoffs consecutively, but not with as much direction as we have now.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

Well, good for him that he has a payday but if Ross wants to fire him, that money doesn't come out of the salary cap.

Try being positive man. This is the first HC we've seen get extended since Shula. After all the failed experiments we've suffered through this is great news.

"Tuanon4Life wrote:

Try being positive man. This is the first HC we've seen get extended since Shula. After all the failed experiments we've suffered through this is great news.

We’ve been in head coach purgatory since Sparano I think

Great point..

Saban Philbin, Cameron, Gase, all failures

"Tuanon4Life wrote:

Try being positive man. This is the first HC we've seen get extended since Shula. After all the failed experiments we've suffered through this is great news.

I like McDaniel. I just think a coach getting a contract extension is less meaningful than, for instance, Tua getting a new deal. Tua's deal means he's going to be here long term. McDaniel's deal means he's going to be getting a paycheck long term.

"Tuanon4Life wrote:

Try being positive man. This is the first HC we've seen get extended since Shula. After all the failed experiments we've suffered through this is great news.

That's not true.. Even Philbin had an extra year tacked on.. So did a lame duck Sparano..

"Bumrush wrote:

That's not true.. Even Philbin had an extra year tacked on.. So did a lame duck Sparano..

Neither one of them made it past their initial contract but you're right.

"Rick 1966 wrote:

I like McDaniel. I just think a coach getting a contract extension is less meaningful than, for instance, Tua getting a new deal. Tua's deal means he's going to be here long term. McDaniel's deal means he's going to be getting a paycheck long term.

It’s actually a bigger deal than some may feel. The head coach is the captain of the ship. He is ultimately responsible for the development and performance of his players. If a player plays well, credit to the head coach. If he plays poorly, critique to the head coach (provided said player isn’t the bottom of the barrel).

By extending McDaniel, the team has said it has confidence in the player development and success the team has had. Will every season be a bed of roses? Every rose has its thorn just so long as our bed of roses doesn’t become a briar patch, McDaniel should be in Miami for quite some time.

This is the same FO and owner that people have been complaining about for years, right?

Don't read more into this than intended, Dan.

Lol

"resnor wrote:

This is the same FO and owner that people have been complaining about for years, right?

Don't read more into this than intended, Dan.

Lol

I’ve complained about Ross
I’ve complained about Grier
I’ve called for their heads.

So

Did it take a number of failures before they got it right?

Were they just unable to get the staff they wanted?

Were we fans just so overly critical? A combination of the above?

Unless the Dolphins utterly FLOP this year and the following, I think we have the coach that can lead our team for the next decade at least.

Let’s not point fingers at who said what, when. We’re winning, we’re happy, FINS UP!!!!

"resnor wrote:

This is the same FO and owner that people have been complaining about for years, right?

Don't read more into this than intended, Dan.

Lol

The only complaint I have of Ross is that he was caught doing what all owners do… woo a player they want.

As for the rest of the FO, there’s criticism that needs to be dealt out, but that’s true for any FO.

I guess I’m not sure why you’re whining about what I may reply to your post. You typically only whine when you’re questioned about your asinine posts.

I think it's great McD was extended. McD + Tua (thus far) looks like the type of HC + QB combo no Dolphins coach except Shula successfully put together.

Main concern with McD is who the DC is. He gets that wrong we'll be one-sided and never win a SB (except by luck), he gets that right we're a perennial contender. Shula never got it right after Arnsparger left and wasted a lot of Marino years. Hope McD doesn't make the same mistake.

"cbrad wrote:

Main concern with McD is who the DC is. He gets that wrong we'll be one-sided and never win a SB (except by luck), he gets that right we're a perennial contender. Shula never got it right after Arnsparger left and wasted a lot of Marino years. Hope McD doesn't make the same mistake.

The difference between now and Shula’s era is that most coordinators now view the position as a stepping stone to a head coaching job, as opposed to the past, where most coordinators stayed in that role for many years. The better our defense is this year, the more likely it is that Weaver gets a HC gig.

Not bad for a guy who doesn't project as a leader of men. But seriously, McDaniel's and Tua's contracts reflect the 20 year void of consistency we experienced since Marino hung up his cleats. Tua got his bag because his market might have been less than we paid to keep him, but his value to the team is at/above what he got. McDaniel could leave tomorrow and have a new job by Friday if he wanted. There's genuine excitement about Miami, even if both are mentioned in regard to what they haven't achieved instead of how well they've performed. I'm glad that we can quibble about the fine points of what determines a success as opposed to going into the season just hoping that something works in our favor for us to finish with a winning record.

Good for Coach. Good for us, too.

One thing that irks me is the media bias against the Phins and Tua.
For example, Lamar Jackson is hyped by the media as some sort of god. Since he was drafted the Ravens have been in 7 playoff games. In one of those games Jackson was injured and didn’t play. Out of his six playoff games, it took him until his 3rd postseason game to win one. Out of those 6 games the Ravens are 2-4, he’s posted a passer rating of over 78 once. All 6 of the games played were in Baltimore. His postseason passer rating is a paltry 75. He’s completed only 57% of his passes with 6 TD’s and 6 INT’s.
Somehow, and even though this Dolphins team has had their HC for only 2 seasons, have back-to-back playoff appearances, and Tua has only played in one postseason game (against the same team that beat Baltimore last season in the playoffs and went on to win the SB) are somehow labeled “chokers”, along with Tua who is labeled as a guy who can’t “win when it counts.”

The Bills, media darlings over the past several years, with Allen (another media darling) haven’t fared much better going 5-5 since Allen has been QB with 7 of those 10 games being at home and the 3 away games being losses.

And let’s not forget about injuries.

After barely beating Jacksonville in week 1 , last night's horrible performance against the Bills, and back-to-back late season collapses, it seems obvious to me that as a head coach McDaniel is in way over his head and I expect he may get fired before the end of this season.

"Veritas wrote:

After barely beating Jacksonville in week 1 , last night's horrible performance against the Bills, and back-to-back late season collapses, it seems obvious to me that as a head coach McDaniel is in way over his head and I expect he may get fired before the end of this season.

Ok.

"Veritas wrote:

After barely beating Jacksonville in week 1 , last night's horrible performance against the Bills, and back-to-back late season collapses, it seems obvious to me that as a head coach McDaniel is in way over his head and I expect he may get fired before the end of this season.

:sidelol:

Really? A head coach who in his first season goes 9-8 and made the playoffs ;Who in his second season goes 11-6 and makes the playoffs and you’re going to fire him after 2 games, going 1-1 versus playoff teams?

Oh the overreaction is astounding.

"Veritas wrote:

After barely beating Jacksonville in week 1 , last night's horrible performance against the Bills, and back-to-back late season collapses, it seems obvious to me that as a head coach McDaniel is in way over his head and I expect he may get fired before the end of this season.

Hello “new” guy. What’s your other name?

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

:sidelol:

Really? A head coach who in his first season goes 9-8 and made the playoffs ;Who in his second season goes 11-6 and makes the playoffs and you’re going to fire him after 2 games, going 1-1 versus playoff teams?

Oh the overreaction is astounding.

People who truly understand NFL football know that Mike McDaniel is in way over his head as a head coach. The job is too big for him.

"Veritas wrote:

People who truly understand NFL football know that Mike McDaniel is in way over his head as a head coach. The job is too big for him.

Then, by THAT logic…the 7/8 head coaches McDaniel beat in 2022 and the 9/10 head coaches he beat last season are in over their head as well…

I mean, if these other head coaches lost to a head coach that’s in over his head…

:pity: