[MERGED] Glazer - Porter ,other players confronted Cameron

Guaranteed there will be a post saying if they didn't like him they could have left. The guy is not meant to be a head coach he is a coordinator and only that.

"Brown42000 wrote:

Guaranteed there will be a post saying if they didn't like him they could have left. The guy is not meant to be a head coach he is a coordinator and only that.

Agreed, he is not a leader of men

The problem with coaching an 'old' team is that the players aren't going to openly accept what you tell them. Rookies will, they don't know any better. They think their first coach is a genious, or at least thats how they treat him. Guys like JT, ZT, Traylor, and Porter have been coached by Hall of Famers (Cowher, JJ, Belicheck) There not just going to respect a guy like Cam cause they'e supposed to. Cam had to earn it, and he couldn't.

"SickFinFan33 wrote:

Watching the sunday pregame show on fox....supposedly Glazer said Joey Porter stood up, infront of the whole team and destroyed Cam infront of everyone, calling him spineless and a coward for kicking keith traylor off the team......and Cam simply said "Good, glad you got that out of your system, now lets prepare for Cincy"....

He totally lost this team, so anyone who wanted Cam to have another chance....you are in the minority....this whole team wanted him gone!!!

Glazer also said something about JT and ZT speaking out against Cam...and there was a mutiny in the locker room.....

I was watching it too. What I don't get is why Taylor was defending Cameron prior to him getting fired. Why would he do that if he didn't like him?

"SMOKE wrote:

I was watching it too. What I don't get is why Taylor was defending Cameron prior to him getting fired. Why would he do that if he didn't like him?

It is the "politically correct" thing to do as the leader of the team imo

Hidden agenda?

Look, the guy is gone. Why does is it seem some need to prove to others Cam was a mistake. Fine he was bad. Get over it. I supported cam a long after the time I should have had sence to give up on him. If I as a previous supporter of cam who thinks he sould have been retained can get over it and move on. Why do some need to beat a dead horse on the subject. I am as passionate as any finfan. why do we need to hear endless articales about what douch bags we were for supporting cam. I get it you think we are retards. oK MESSAGE DELIVERED. Can we please move on.

so Mr H pays them millions, and instead of returning the respect by honoring the coach HE chose, they turn on him.. pieces of crap imo.. I hope bill cans every last one of them that were divisive punks in the locker room.

"SickFinFan33 wrote:

It is the "politically correct" thing to do as the leader of the team imo

I didn't like Cam, but i really didn't like the way Taylor handled himself all season either. Personally it feels very fake to me, like Taylors only saying nice things about Cam now because he doesn't want to come off as part of the reason Cam was fired.

"phinphever wrote:

Look, the guy is gone. Why does is it seem some need to prove to others Cam was a mistake. Fine he was bad. Get over it. I supported cam a long after the time I should have had sence to give up on him. If I as a previous supporter of cam who thinks he sould have been retained can get over it and move on. Why do some need to beat a dead horse on the subject. I am as passionate as any finfan. why do we need to hear endless articales about what douch bags we were for supporting cam. I get it you think we are retards. oK MESSAGE DELIVERED. Can we please move on.

I was just posting something that was behind the scenes that was delivered on the pregame show today, incase people didnt see it....not a shot at you...sorry if you took it that way

"cnc66 wrote:

so Mr H pays them millions, and instead of returning the respect by honoring the coach HE chose, they turn on him.. pieces of crap imo.. I hope bill cans every last one of them that were divisive punks in the locker room.

Amen, brother lol. look if they were winning games the players would have every right to complain but they were loosing They have no right to bitch. their play was every bit as bad a cam's coaching if not worse.

I think, as is usually the case, you can find faults with all sides in this mess. Could Cam have handled things differently? Sure, I suppose. Could the players have acted differently? Again, I would assume that would be the case. It's apparent to me, regardless of who you "blame," that there were problems in the locker room. For a football guy like Parcells, I'm sure he saw that as well - which is why sweeping changes have been made. I think the important thing to focus on is that we are moving on from this awful season, regardless of who's "fault" it was, and focusing on the future.

"cnc66 wrote:

so Mr H pays them millions, and instead of returning the respect by honoring the coach HE chose, they turn on him.. pieces of crap imo.. I hope bill cans every last one of them that were divisive punks in the locker room.

Cam was a weasle and a dewb who had no idea what he was doing, the team and locker room had every right to speak out against him. The guy deserved to be fired, not to mention he would watch the computer to make sure players were answering the questions the way they were supposed to and certain reporters to make sure they would ask the right questions.

"SickFinFan33 wrote:

I was just posting something that was behind the scenes that was delivered on the pregame show today, incase people didnt see it....not a shot at you...sorry if you took it that way

Na I'm not, don't worry. Just don't ever want to hear about cam anymore he burned me I had shuch high hopes and got disappointed. Maybe i should ignore the posts about cam lol. I do think we should be ok. parcells will right the ship and if he doesn't then he will be the next saban lol.

What goes around, comes around for Cameron. Look at how he treated Daunte earlier this season. Granted, he wasn't good for us as a QB but he lied about saying there will be an open competition and then strung Daunte around prior to releasing him. As a veteran, would you want to be treated like that? That's one huge reason why the veterans didn't like him, plus a 1-15 season, you know they were jumping for joy when Bill fired him.

"phinphever wrote:

Na I'm not, don't worry. Just don't ever want to hear about cam anymore he burned me I had shuch high hopes and got disappointed. Maybe i should ignore the posts about cam lol. I do think we should be ok. parcells will right the ship and if he doesn't then he will be the next saban lol.

haha agreed!!! Hope we get out of the cellar and back into the limelight again!

when he picked ginn over quinn and the fans booed him inside the training bublle i knew then he was a shmuck

Do not be surprised if some of those guys are gone next year!

"the big tuna wrote:

when he picked ginn over quinn and the fans booed him inside the training bublle i knew then he was a shmuck

"Hey you gotta turn your thumbs THIS direction...." :up:

"Brown42000 wrote:

Cam was a weasle and a dewb who had no idea what he was doing, the team and locker room had every right to speak out against him. The guy deserved to be fired, not to mention he would watch the computer to make sure players were answering the questions the way they were supposed to and certain reporters to make sure they would ask the right questions.

pfft who cares.. Cam was THE COACH, he was the OWNERS choice.. they suck, each and every one that undermined the coach. Sadly, he didn't have the backing to crapcan porter right then and there.. so he could go hold hands with Truck

"the big tuna wrote:

when he picked ginn over quinn and the fans booed him inside the training bublle i knew then he was a shmuck

I remember that fateful day :unsure: I was in the hospital room with my ailing grandmother and my uncle (a Jets fan). When it was our turn I though sure Quinn was ours, I was so anxious. When they announced the pick be laughed his rear end off. My grandmother died two days later, and the year 2007 turned out to be the worst year of my life.:sad:

"the big tuna wrote:

when he picked ginn over quinn and the fans booed him inside the training bublle i knew then he was a shmuck

no, that only meant he was smarter than you.. that's why he is a millionaire at his craft, and you and I post here.

"SickFinFan33 wrote:

Watching the sunday pregame show on fox....supposedly Glazer said Joey Porter stood up, infront of the whole team and destroyed Cam infront of everyone, calling him spineless and a coward for kicking keith traylor off the team......and Cam simply said "Good, glad you got that out of your system, now lets prepare for Cincy"....

He totally lost this team, so anyone who wanted Cam to have another chance....you are in the minority....this whole team wanted him gone!!!

Glazer also said something about JT and ZT speaking out against Cam...and there was a mutiny in the locker room.....

he lost the vets as soon as he drafted Ginn and signed Green

we should have a special folder for threads about the past

"lbmclean_sj wrote:

we should have a special folder for threads about the past

it was just reported today.......

dont post on them and keep them fresh on the new thread page then :thumbup: