Merged:Jason Cole on AFC Draft Grades: Dolphins earn only A
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Jt0323moderatorOPhttp://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--2013-afc-draft-grades--dolphins-earn-only-a-033857465.html
Analysis: GM Jeff Ireland takes a lot of heat from Miami fans and some of it is deserved. But his past two drafts have been strong despite being very different. Last year, Ireland was in a much more desperate situation to get a quarterback, but stayed put at No. 8 and still got Ryan Tannehill.
Cole also covered the Dolphins for 15 seasons before going to Yahoo
PhinFan1968subscriber"Alex13 wrote:
wow an A from jason cole ? he hates us normally
That's how I remember him...been a LONG time since I've read anything by him though...
Brian Flores when asked about tanking: “Again, no we’re not (tanking). We’re going to try to win every game. I think that’s disrespectful to even say that.”
:rimshot:
bakedmattNew Member"Jt0323 wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--2013-afc-draft-grades--dolphins-earn-only-a-033857465.html
Cole also covered the Dolphins for 15 seasons before going to Yahoo
That really cheap trade to move up into the top 3 of the draft will impress anyone who notices it. Maybe we should do more trades with the Raiders.
Now we just have to hope the players they picked will pan out.
@matthewfpepin
MrCleansubscriberThe Pillsbury Dough Boy giving Miami some positive press? Who'd a thunk it?
“... I hope I never ridicule what is wise or good. Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies do divert me, I own, and I laugh at them whenever I can.”
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Bpkluxury_box"bakedmatt wrote:
That really cheap trade to move up into the top 3 of the draft will impress anyone who notices it. Maybe we should do more trades with the Raiders.
Now we just have to hope the players they picked will pan out.
Exactly. The ability to pull off a great trade value is one thing, but then what you do with the pick is a different skill and result. I'm impressed by our trade up, and hopeful about the pick. Truthfully, what Ireland did with the remaining picks annoyed me. Disagree with Cole's grade, especially as he's referencing irrelevant improvements through FA as feathers in Ireland's cap in a draft review.
I would give us an A in Free Agency though. (Although that doesn't always work out so well for teams)
GMJohnsonNew Member"Bpk wrote:
Exactly. The ability to pull off a great trade value is one thing, but then what you do with the pick is a different skill and result. I'm impressed by our trade up, and hopeful about the pick. Truthfully, what Ireland did with the remaining picks annoyed me. Disagree with Cole's grade, especially as he's referencing irrelevant improvements through FA as feathers in Ireland's cap in a draft review.
I would give us an A in Free Agency though. (Although that doesn't always work out so well for teams)
What Ireland did in FA is not at all irrelevant to the draft.
The_Dark_Knightforum_veteran2013 AFC draft grades: Dolphins earn only A
Miami Dolphins
Picks: DE Dion Jordan, CB Jamar Taylor, OT Dallas Thomas, CB Will Davis, OLB Jelani Jenkins, TE Dion Sims, RB Mike Gillislee, K Caleb Sturgis, SS Don Jones.
Analysis: GM Jeff Ireland takes a lot of heat from Miami fans and some of it is deserved. But his past two drafts have been strong despite being very different. Last year, Ireland was in a much more desperate situation to get a quarterback, but stayed put at No. 8 and still got Ryan Tannehill. This year, Ireland wasn't as desperate, but was aggressive in getting Jordan, the consensus pick as the top pass rusher in the draft. The price to move up was cheap (only a second-rounder) and Ireland still came up with a couple of young cornerbacks to help his depleted secondary. Between this draft and free agency (WR Mike Wallace, CB Brent Grimes), the Dolphins have brought in a serious amount of talent, particularly on defense.Grade: A
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--2013-afc-draft-grades--dolphins-earn-only-a-033857465.html
Okay, perhaps an objective view of the Dolphins from Jason Cole is about as equivalent as an objective view of the Buffalo Bills from Chris Berman but still...
Nice to see us get some love in the press!!!
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The_Dark_Knightforum_veteranDamn, I didn't see this thread before starting one on it. Sorry
“The person you will spend the most time with in your life is yourself, so you better make sure you’re someone interesting”
SamphinNew MemberUgh...I don't really remember Cole being terribly awful to Miami.
VanDolPhansubscriber"Samphin wrote:
Ugh...I don't really remember Cole being terribly awful to Miami.
He will always be remembered for hi-5 gate.
You can still goad him into trying to defend himself on Twitter. Gets under his skin lol.
Ohio Fanaticsubscriber"Bpk wrote:
Exactly. The ability to pull off a great trade value is one thing, but then what you do with the pick is a different skill and result. I'm impressed by our trade up, and hopeful about the pick. Truthfully, what Ireland did with the remaining picks annoyed me. Disagree with Cole's grade, especially as he's referencing irrelevant improvements through FA as feathers in Ireland's cap in a draft review.
I would give us an A in Free Agency though. (Although that doesn't always work out so well for teams)
I never see the point in grading free agency and the draft separately. They are always tied together and should be graded together.
I love Jordan as our first pick.
If Taylor turns out to be a solid starter, then I'm happy as hell.
I'm also looking forward to Dion Sims as our 2nd TE. Tired of bringing in scrubs (backups to Fasano) off the street to be our blocking TE. A two TE set of Keller and Sims could be fun to watch, especially on the occasion when Sims gets a pass and bowls someone over.
If those three players pan out accordingly and we replace Carpenter and save some money, when combined with Free agency, then it's an overall grade of A, especially if we pick up Winston now. If Jordan is the only one that pans out, and Taylor ends up being our #3 CB, I'd still give an overall grade of B.
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Larryfinfansubscriber"Alex13 wrote:
wow an A from jason cole ? he hates us normally
Yeah, wasn't he the instigator of High-Fivegate ?? Surprising that he'd give out such a good grade....Not that these grades really are indicative of what is to be...they are just someones opinion of our picks based on what they know now...
Ronnie Bassluxury_box"Samphin wrote:
Ugh...I don't really remember Cole being terribly awful to Miami.
He's no Evan Silva that's for sure, now THIS guy hates us and especially Ireland, but he's a complete hack also. By the way dearest Evan gave our draft a D+ and justified it by involving the moves Ireland made before the draft, that's how committed he is to being a total prick towards us.
Lt Danforum_veteranGave the Pats a D....love it
Aguaforum_veteran"VanDolPhan wrote:
He will always be remembered for hi-5 gate.
You can still goad him into trying to defend himself on Twitter. Gets under his skin lol.
Same with Armuuuuundo. He's deleted posts on his blog stating "How 'bout a High 5 Mando??" LOL
Stringer BellsubscriberNot a good sign IMO.
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emocomputerjockNew Member"Stringer Bell wrote:
Not a good sign IMO.
*jeffirelanddealwithit.gif*
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slickj101forum_veteran"Ronnie Bass wrote:
He's no Evan Silva that's for sure, now THIS guy hates us and especially Ireland, but he's a complete hack also. By the way dearest Evan gave our draft a D+ and justified it by involving the moves Ireland made before the draft, that's how committed he is to being a total prick towards us.
He's an angry fat lil ginger he has to try to take it out on someone.
Silence
It's ******* Golden.
shula_guyNew MemberI must of missed the high 5 controversy :confused2:
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."
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SamphinNew Member"shula_guy wrote:
I must of missed the high 5 controversy :confused2:
Years ago during a Dolphins-Patriots game in which Miami was eliminated from the playoffs picture, Cole and Armando were caught high fiving, presumably about Miami being out despite both covering our team as beat writers. It came to light when Wayne Huizenga called them out at a press conference and both first denied, then got caught in multiple lies as to why they were high fiving.
From what I remember though, Cole eventually copped to it while Armando didn't. Or maybe it was the other way around...?
byroanadmin"Samphin wrote:
Years ago during a Dolphins-Patriots game in which Miami was eliminated from the playoffs picture, Cole and Armando were caught high fiving, presumably about Miami being out despite both covering our team as beat writers. It came to light when Wayne Huizenga called them out at a press conference and both first denied, then got caught in multiple lies as to why they were high fiving.
From what I remember though, Cole eventually copped to it while Armando didn't. Or maybe it was the other way around...?
Yeah, the worst part was saying they were high fiving because a bronco player scored a TD but he wasn't even playing.
SamphinNew Member"byroan wrote:
Yeah, the worst part was saying they were high fiving because a bronco player scored a TD but he wasn't even playing.
Was it you or someone else that called them out on that one? That was hilarious.
Bpkluxury_box"GMJohnson wrote:
What Ireland did in FA is not at all irrelevant to the draft.
So we should give him a higher draft grade for signing Mike Wallace?
I totally disagree.
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