Merril Hoge:"Wake a bigger stronger version of Harrison"

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padre31padre31luxury_boxOP
Oct 8, 2009, 09:18 PM

High praise indeed:

Adam_Schefter Wow. RT @merrilhoge: Miami has a rising star as a pass rusher Cameron wake number 91 reminds me of a bigger stronger James Harrison

Sheesh, were Dolphins fans saying that same thing literally months ago?

Sparano said in his presser that Wake is a rare player who could rush with speed and bend around the corner with a tremendous first step who also can keep his balance.

for those interested in what Sparano and Hogie were talking about, peruse this Jared Allen instructional video:

YouTube - Viking Jared Allen teaches The Speed Rush Training Exercise

the difference between Allen and Wake, besides 40 sacks or so, is Allen engages the Tackle, Wake simply fends them off while making himself a smaller target for the tackle to block all the while running at full speed, Wake when he is right is like trying to touch a cat that does not want to be touched, they simply bend away from the pressure...

TpaddleTpaddleforum_veteran
Oct 8, 2009, 09:29 PM

pretty impressive comparison there, we can only hope wake has this great of a future

Oct 8, 2009, 09:49 PM

OK we get it you like the guy.

MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.

dolfan7171dolfan7171New Member
Oct 9, 2009, 12:01 AM

Good description. I like that.

Win, Lose, or Tie, I will be a Dolphins Fan Until I Die:up:

JeffreyJeffreyNew Member
Oct 9, 2009, 12:04 AM

I like Charlie Anderson too.

A dark spirit has come upon you.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Oct 9, 2009, 12:18 AM

"Jeffrey wrote:

I like Charlie Anderson too.

Charlie is fast, he just does not disengage from blockers, he could be great in coverage though.

Boik14Boik14subscriber
Oct 9, 2009, 05:17 PM

Cam Wake has some freakish athletic ability. IF, if he turns in to a better James Harrison and we can find some ILB to compliment him, we will start to take the look fo a championship 3-4 defense. But thats a long ways away and there is plenty of work to be done...those days cant get here soon enough though :)

padre31padre31luxury_box
Oct 9, 2009, 05:22 PM

"Boik14 wrote:

Cam Wake has some freakish athletic ability. IF, if he turns in to a better James Harrison and we can find some ILB to compliment him, we will start to take the look fo a championship 3-4 defense. But thats a long ways away and there is plenty of work to be done...those days cant get here soon enough though :)

Boy you nailed that, Crowder and Ayodele are not downhill types of ILB's they are like having two Gary Reasons with no Pepper Johnson.

JeffreyJeffreyNew Member
Oct 9, 2009, 05:35 PM

Anyone notice how during the Colts game a couple weeks ago that Jaworski was TOTALLY dissing the Wildcat and Miami? I used to like Jaws.....but after listening to him try and trash Miami, I don't really have much respect for him anymore. He came off as really arrogant to me.

A dark spirit has come upon you.

shaunm000shaunm000forum_veteran
Oct 9, 2009, 05:46 PM

"Jeffrey wrote:

Anyone notice how during the Colts game a couple weeks ago that Jaworski was TOTALLY dissing the Wildcat and Miami? I used to like Jaws.....but after listening to him try and trash Miami, I don't really have much respect for him anymore. He came off as really arrogant to me.

He's a QB, why would he like it. It would have taken snaps out of his hands when he was with Philly.

I honestly think they have to have some sort of for and against in regards to all sorts of topics on MNF. How else do you fill 3.5 hours of commentating if everyone agrees.

JeffreyJeffreyNew Member
Oct 9, 2009, 05:49 PM

I'm just so sick of people calling it a gimmick. Like.....does anyone have any REAL thoughts on it? It seems really easy to just dismiss it and call it a gimmick and say that it "won't last". They had Fran Tarkenton on yesterday and he was asked about the Wildcat. His response was......"Well, it's a gimmick offense and it's not going to last."

A dark spirit has come upon you.

cnc66cnc66luxury_box
Oct 9, 2009, 06:16 PM

"Jeffrey wrote:

I'm just so sick of people calling it a gimmick. Like.....does anyone have any REAL thoughts on it? It seems really easy to just dismiss it and call it a gimmick and say that it "won't last". They had Fran Tarkenton on yesterday and he was asked about the Wildcat. His response was......"Well, it's a gimmick offense and it's not going to last."

my money says the guys that are getting their teeth kicked in by our power "gimmick" ain't callin' it a gimmick..

and I bet they all wish it WOULD go away...

54Fins54Finsforum_veteran
Oct 9, 2009, 06:24 PM

"Frumundah Finnatic wrote:

OK we get it you like the guy.

C'mon,Padre. Hit the thank you button for frumundah. :pity:

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Oct 9, 2009, 06:28 PM

"cnc66 wrote:

my money says the guys that are getting their teeth kicked in by our power "gimmick" ain't callin' it a gimmick..

and I bet they all wish it WOULD go away...

I have a feeling it is more of a why can't Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams just go away.

ChrisKoChrisKoforum_veteran
Oct 9, 2009, 06:30 PM

You'll get your fill of Wilcat loving commentators on Monday with Gruden in the booth. That dude is so excited about the Wildcat that it's actually pretty obnoxious.

ConuficusConuficusluxury_box
Oct 9, 2009, 06:38 PM

"ChrisKo wrote:

You'll get your fill of Wilcat loving commentators on Monday with Gruden in the booth. That dude is so excited about the Wildcat that it's actually pretty obnoxious.

Gruden loves him some David Lee. The one man he cannot reach.

sonnsonnsubscriber
Oct 9, 2009, 06:47 PM

"Jeffrey wrote:

Anyone notice how during the Colts game a couple weeks ago that Jaworski was TOTALLY dissing the Wildcat and Miami? I used to like Jaws.....but after listening to him try and trash Miami, I don't really have much respect for him anymore. He came off as really arrogant to me.

He did pick Miami to win that game on PTI so he can't hate the Dolphins that much.

padre31padre31luxury_box
Oct 9, 2009, 06:56 PM

"Conuficus wrote:

Gruden loves him some David Lee. The one man he cannot reach.

:lol:

I guess I haven't talked too much smack about Cam Wake's performance last Sunday, his lack of hand use is somewhat nullified by his speed and balance and lean, then again a swim or an arm over would make and he will have arrived.

I think we may see JT in a revised "Tiger" role as JP is going to play on MNF.

the 23rdthe 23rdNew Member
Oct 9, 2009, 07:40 PM

told you about Wake when he was but a discussion
the Triad of Terror will be the scourge of the NFL

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Oct 9, 2009, 07:50 PM

"Jeffrey wrote:

Anyone notice how during the Colts game a couple weeks ago that Jaworski was TOTALLY dissing the Wildcat and Miami? I used to like Jaws.....but after listening to him try and trash Miami, I don't really have much respect for him anymore. He came off as really arrogant to me.

he didnt say much after the wildcat dominated the Colts, and then Gruden wouldnt stop orgasming over it.

MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Oct 10, 2009, 01:14 AM

"padre31 wrote:

Wake when he is right is like trying to touch a cat that does not want to be touched, they simply bend away from the pressure...

I dont know why, but i loved that comparison :lol::up:

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Oct 10, 2009, 11:14 AM

"padre31 wrote:

High praise indeed:

Sheesh, were Dolphins fans saying that same thing literally months ago?

Sparano said in his presser that Wake is a rare player who could rush with speed and bend around the corner with a tremendous first step who also can keep his balance.

for those interested in what Sparano and Hogie were talking about, peruse this Jared Allen instructional video:

YouTube - Viking Jared Allen teaches The Speed Rush Training Exercise

the difference between Allen and Wake, besides 40 sacks or so, is Allen engages the Tackle, Wake simply fends them off while making himself a smaller target for the tackle to block all the while running at full speed, Wake when he is right is like trying to touch a cat that does not want to be touched, they simply bend away from the pressure...

He has to continue , of course not at 3 sacks per , but pressure , be consistent , make plays .... but nice when you are right isn't it? One wonders when someone has seen a player live several times and on tv in best league by far besides the NFL and there was such doubt. Also I was told by a current CFL star , former NFL player what he would bring to the table. I guess a few of us were right

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Oct 10, 2009, 11:22 AM

"Boik14 wrote:

Cam Wake has some freakish athletic ability. IF, if he turns in to a better James Harrison and we can find some ILB to compliment him, we will start to take the look fo a championship 3-4 defense. But thats a long ways away and there is plenty of work to be done...those days cant get here soon enough though :)

Don't know if they are that far away , we need an ILB and that almost assuredly will be addressed twice this off season. While we don't know how Wake will be in all areas of the game I have little ( if any ) doubt that he will be continue to be a MAJOR disruptive force , he has the innate physical skills , the focus , the coaching , mentorship to continue to create havoc. He has the hunger AND the pure , rare physical ability enhanced by that needed desire to be as good as one can be. Formula for success.

TiP54TiP54New Member
Oct 10, 2009, 11:58 AM

"dolfan22 wrote:

...we need an ILB and that almost assuredly will be addressed twice this off season...

Well, we do need ILBs, and seeing this regimes drafting strategy, double drafting, its almost a given that we will have some fresh bodies in camp next year.

"dolfan22 wrote:

While we don't know how Wake will be in all areas of the game I have little ( if any ) doubt that he will be continue to be a MAJOR disruptive force , he has the innate physical skills , the focus , the coaching , mentorship to continue to create havoc. He has the hunger AND the pure , rare physical ability enhanced by that needed desire to be as good as one can be. Formula for success.

Agree with that 100%
Id like to add that he is extremely humble, he truly appreciates the opportunity in NFL and he looks to make the most of it.

dolfan22dolfan22subscriber
Oct 10, 2009, 12:15 PM

"Mari0k wrote:

Well, we do need ILBs, and seeing this regimes drafting strategy, double drafting, its almost a given that we will have some fresh bodies in camp next year.

Agree with that 100%
Id like to add that he is extremely humble, he truly appreciates the opportunity in NFL and he looks to make the most of it.

Agreed , sometimes when you don't have things flow easily it makes you both appreciate and realize how much you want it...I don't see him fall into the trap of NFL star , he has been a man on a mission since he signed.Tunnel vision , you think he will let some success stop his quest?

Nah ... neither do I.

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