The article is just a re-hash of what he said in the press conference which wasn't much.

The only thing that sounds good is saying you're going to build your offense "around your players" but let's be real here, that's basically coach-speak. The truth is he will be forced to work most of the guys that are here for the time being. He has no other choice but to build around what he's got: Tannehill, Landry, Parker, Ajayi, James, Albert, Pouncey, Stills...it's not like those guys are going anywhere. Cameron is still going to be under contract and if Miller or Matthews are re-signed it's going to be the exact same look same look. What else are you going to do but build around the guys you have?

Truth is, we won't know a damn thing until we see what this team does in free agency. At least then we'll get a sense of how they're going to structure the off-season.

 

All that stuff was said a week or so ago when he was hired. It was generic then as it is now. Like I said, re-hashing it is not newsworthy.

Obviously Gase is going to work with Tannehill. It's a bit early to try and start a conversation on it. What else can we do but hope for the best?

In my eyes, it's not a Tannehill issue or a Gase issue. It's about whether this O-line get's fixed. The minute that happens is that minute the play-caller and the QB won't be the focus of everyone's attention.

I highly doubt that Gase is going to come in and transform Ryan Tannehill into an elite QB. The best Miami can hope for is that they put him on a level playing field. They've more than done that with Landry, Cameron and Parker but they haven't gotten close to that with building an O-line and establishing a running game.

Hell, if Gase does anything I'd ask him to establish a ground game. It's not Tannehill's ability to make a throw that I'm worried about.

 

What?

 

I don't think it's just coach-speak because there are coaches that are more inclined to mold players to a fixed system than modify that system to the players. Many coaches wouldn't say they'll build the offense around their players. So on that one issue I think what Gase said has significance.

 

I think he meant he's going to build the offensive gameplan around his players. Play to their strengths instead of forcing them to play a scheme no matter if they are suited to ti or not.

 

Eh...I think you're trying to find a headline in a nothing, toss-off kind of statement personally. Everyone says they're going to build around the players. That's like literally one of the first things you always hear, regardless of who the coach is. Chip Kelly and Bill Lazor will tell you that. In reality, it's not black and white like that though. It's all grey. There's not a single coach in the league that built his system entirely around his players and there's not a single coach in the league that doesn't slightly modify what he's calling due to who he's got on the field. This isn't news.

What coaches mean is that within the systems they run, they have options. You can take someone like Olivier Vernon and elect to run him multiple ways. The coach doesn't have unlimited flexibility though. He's not building a new scheme. He's just acknowledging that there are usually 2-3 options for specific positions. We saw that with Jarvis Landry out of Bill Lazor's system. The idea was that you'd use Landry in various spots throughout the formations instead of locking him into one. That's great. It helped give him some good numbers. But every coach is going to make those kinds of decisions. For all you know Gase might "build a system" around having Landry do a lesser number of things. My point is what Gase has said hasn't given us any clue.

 

Did Philbin or Sparano etc.. ever say something that suggested they'd decide which scheme to run based on which players we have? I don't think it's something you hear that often.

 

Philbin actually said the opposite quite often. Ex: As soon as Suh was signed, he was asked by reporters his opinion and the first thing that came out of his mouth was that Suh was a good "scheme fit". That is not molding his scheme to his players, it is forcing players to fit his scheme. Doesnt sound like Gase wants to do that. In fact I'd be surprised if he ever said the words "scheme fit" in a press conference.

 

I've watched the first few Chicago Bears games from 2015 and so far I like what I've seen with respect to the run game. Two TE sets, 3 TE sets, full house backfield, some wildcat, they use FBs, pulling guards, zone and man blocking, a lot of versatility and a commitment to making it work. Unlike anything we saw in Miami this year, especially in terms of abandoning the run. Vladimir Ducasse seems to be the primary puller, but Bushrod has been used as well.

My opinion of Martellus Bennett has gone thru the roof, he looks as good any TE not named Gronkowski. Think Sims and Cameron in one package, a major asset in both run and pass.

Another aspect that stood out right away was the amount of pre snap autonomy Cutler had, again, unlike what we've seen in Miami. It's only a few games but I am impressed.

 

I cant get excited about 6-10.

Bears offense ranked 23rd in points, 21rst in yards, 23rd in passing yards and 11th in rushing for a total offensive ranking of 23rd in the NFL

 

They also had a ton of injuries, and Cutler isn't the type of QB who can overcome that. Center, LT, top two receivers, starting QB, thats just in the first quarter of the season. Again, I've only seen 4-5 games, I'll share more as as I see more.

 

What if without Gase they would have been 32nd in all of that? Not saying they would, just saying you may not be looking at this correctly.

 

If they were 32nd in points they would have score 238 points(san Fran) instead of 328 +90

If they were 32nd in yards they would have 4860 yrds(san Fran) instead of 5517 +857

If they were 32nd in passing yards they would have 2805 yrds(Rams) instead of 3663 +858

if they were 32nd in rushing they would have 1358 yrds(San Diego) instead of 1854 +496

Interesting

So with Gace at the helm and averaged over 16 games Gace added:

5.625 pts per game

53.56 Total yrds per game

53.625 yards passing per game

31 yards per game rushing

LMAO what a offensive guru we got. But hey we won the Adam Gace sweepstakes. We are winners for now

 

90 more points would put Dolphins in the top 10.

 

As DFD pointed out, those numbers, if added to our totals, would of been pretty nice.

And I think you're selling Gase a little short, considering the Bears were riddled with injuries at the skill player positions. Kevin White missed the season. Jeffery played 9 games, Royal 9 games, Wilson 11 games, and Martellus Bennett 11 games too. And Jeffery, the stud playmaker played hurt when he was on the field, all year.

So yes, I do think it's impressive that Gase created an offense that allowed Cutler to have his highest rated season ever. Which featured only 11 INT, the lowest of his career in a full season (Twice previously he threw less than 11 INT, but he missed 6 games in one and the other was his rookie year in which he only played in 5 games total).

Sometimes, when we look at "guru's," "geniues," or whatever you want to call them, it's easy to look at what they achieved with great amounts of talent. Gase in Denver, with Manning and all those weapons for example. Sometimes, the true test is what you can achieve without the all-pro talent at the skill positions. And in Chicago, I don't think you or anyone else could of asked for Gase to do a better job than what he did given the talent and circumstances. Gase took lemons and made lemonade. I think he's demonstrated that he can get the most out of what's given to him.

I'm not crowning Gase as the next great thing but I think he understands football and X's and O's better than any coach we've had since Shula. Truth be told, I'm pretty neutral on the guy, shading positive given his accomplishments and football acumen. The real question w/Gase is about his leadership ability and ability to run a football team. And we'll see about that soon enough.

 

Lemonade ? Excellent we are all set then.

Fin D asked the question, which he thought had no answer. I provided the facts on what Gace brought to the table in Chicago which wasnt much it appears. He "molded " the offense around his players and they were at the bottom third of the league. That is a fact. We can make all the excuses in the world, but the numbers don't lie.

I just hope all the stars and Sun are in proper alignment.

 

What?

Jesus man. You don't even understand the significance of the numbers you posted. You are basically proving you're not qualified to argue on these matters.

Read this again:

 

Keep remembering this part... and injuries were not much better by the end of the season.

How about numbers on Forte? Were they better or worse? I didn't see the Bears but 1 time this season playing from behind.

 

To me if tannehill is not a good leader and the coach is always trying to back him, it spells for a disaster of a locker room. The head coach cannot keep telling everyone it's sunny outside if they are standing in a downpour. Eventually the players will realize your B.S. and go their own way.

I think Philbin tried to have tannehills back initially and found out sooner than later he was swimming upstream. The players see it and don't even jump in that river. The more the coach stays there, the more pushback he will receive from the players. The truth is maybe he just sucks from a leadership position and we need someone from the players with some authority to step up and take on that role. It's not ideal, but better than what we currently have.

 

Yeah... Philbin made alot of good moves and decisions.

Trying hard to remember one.

 

We all have this mental image of the QB rallying the players in the huddle by calling the one play that scores the final points to win the game.

We can all picture it, its in every football movie ever.

Now picture the exact same scene, but the QB isn't allowed to call that play. No one can honestly tell me that doesn't neuter the whole thing. Not letting Thill audible not only screwed the play effectiveness up, it also took any leadership Thill could have away. He's just like every other player, a soldier taking orders.

 

Leadership should also come from the coaching staff and ownership. They are the ones who set a tone for the whole organization. Queasy Joe, a**hat Lazor, and clueless Coyle were so bad they don't even really belong in this league, but it's a good ol' boys club, so they'll stick around. Ross made a huge mistake in leadership 2 f****** years ago after a second end of season meltdown and he decided to fire Ireland instead of Joe, the real problem. Then he extended Joe after not reaching the playoffs the very next year and then you all know what happened this year. This is the problem with our leadership, coaching and owning this team, at least we purged one of those problems (not like we can get rid of the owner anyway). Tannehill may be an introvert and not have natural "leadership" qualities, but truly smart football men like Adam Gase see the talent he posses and that's why he chose Miami over other places. He knows we have a potential franchise QB and he also knows that is the single most valuable asset in the game, unlike the majority of our stupid fan-base lol.

 

I visit (don't post) Cowboy (distant relative on team) and Charger (my daughter's -age25- favorite team since little) forums and tho they wonder when their QB is retiring there is not that much negativity towards them. Heck, tho they are excellent QBs... what have they exactly done for their teams? Both are highly paid, getting old, never got their team to the SB, never going to, no real backup, not sure when to draft, not sure of FAs, money paid to them hurts rest of team, etc.

They back their guy for the most part... why it so different here? Confused.

 

We have a generally stupid and fair weathered fan-base?

 

Heeeyy... I resemble that first part. Haha.

 

I just love how our "fans" love to say things like comparing Tannehill to Wilson is like comparing chop liver to steak just because Wilson's TEAM wins. Sure Wilson has had the better career and to this point is the better player, but he's had two comically horrible first haves in the playoffs the past 2 years, don't remember Tannehill playing that wretched in a while. You would expect more from such an "elite" QB with the #1 ranked D in points allowed. I suspect the difference in talent in these two is a lot closer than a lot of our own "fans" even believe, can't wait till Tannehill has a chance to beat him again next year with a competent coaching staff and show some of our "fans" just how wrong they really are.

And for all the b******* this fan-base did over selecting Long>Ryan, what has he ever done for them? Nothing, because he isn't elite like so many of us liked to pretend for years. End rant.

 

Matt Ryan probably would have gotten run out of town already if we had drafted him.

 

Well, the year before they didn't have Gase, and were ranked 23rd, so there's that. the year before that they were actually the #2 offense, and going back 10 years 23rd is the lowest ranking the Bears have had.

 

And they had significant injuries this year. So, you know, there's that too.

 

Injuries happen every year, it's part of the game.

 

And? Did I argue that Chicago was the only team to suffer significant injuries?

 

It's extremely simple, both the QBs you mentioned, have a higher avg rating than Tanne's best rating, iow, they are good QBs.

 

No, you insinuated that because they had injuries they might have been the worst offense in the league without Gase, try to stay on point guy, lol.

 

Yeah, that's just a ridiculous lie on your part.

English...do you speak it?

My point about the injuries has more to do with the fact that they ranked about the same as the year before except they had significant injuries. But hey, keep lying.

 

What does rating have to do with no confidence in your QB? Did you notice that BOTH those teams are picking ahead of us this year with those 'good' QBs? Do you know how much they are getting- and not just for a couple of years. Their entire team is weakened because of the amounts, the questions, who is the successor, etc.
Are their chances with these QBs good for a SB run??? No.
I like what we have... and under contract. Why don't you argue about how crappy the OL is... and give some suggestions for answers instead of continually trying to show your own QB lacking? He isn't going anywhere, they are not trading him and they are not going to draft a top one for immediate 'competition'. Those are the facts.
Is there a chance to fix the D? Maybe
Is there a chance to fix the OL? Maybe
Are they going to be able to make our QB even better? Maybe. We should hope.

Why talk about intanglibles like clutch and leadership when actual problems can be fixed or at least addressed... and the QB hasn't been the major problem/will not be on the team anyway?

 

So you actually have the balls to say you didn't insinuate that, LfriggenOfriggenL

English, do you have ANY idea how it works, lol.

 

Wow. I hope the mods finally realize the troll you are.