Miami Dolphins want to avoid "diva receiva"

The problem is an awful lot of talented WRs in this league have a bit of "diva" in them. It's the nature of the position. So the FO can continue to thumb their noses at these play makers and keep dragging in flocks of Patrick Turners. Maybe they'll get lucky one of these years. Maybe not.

To me it's starting to seem like cutting off your nose to spite your face. If they didn't want a "diva receiva" they should have dealt for Boldin.

Even if we draft a reciever that's not a diva as soon as they hit that threshhold where they become a top tier talent they 99% of the time become a diva so this line of thinking is essentially resolving to never have any top tier talent at reciever on your team.

Sure we might get lucky and hit that 1% eventually, just like we might win the lotto before we die but odds are pretty good we won't. They really have to get out of this "we don't want a diva" mindset, either we want top tier talent at reciever or we don't, can't have your cake and eat it too, gotta take the bad with the good and so on... and so on.

Whats left on the market worth looking at?
T.O. and Marshall both diivas so to speak get over it the big head is attached to alot of the best players.
T.O. can't be consistent on catching the ball, alot like Ginn just a bigger body.
(And attitude)
Marshall has the better hands in my opinion and is younger he will make someone a very good WR.

brandon marshall is far from a diva, he's an ******* and a troublemaker, plain and simple.

Looks like we are looking deep into the draft.

Well, let the Trifecta take the moral high ground all they want, just know that after 17 weeks from the opening kickoff in the season opener, Dolfans and the Dolphins will be watching other teams.

There are many good receivers who are not divas. We just need to be patient and we will find one.

"unluckyluciano wrote:

brandon marshall is far from a diva, he's an ******* and a troublemaker, plain and simple.

This.

Jerry Rice was anything but a Diva, and nobody has EVER played the position better. Don't tell me it is the nature of the position, it is the nature of the mental disposition, and I'll put my trust in Parcells on this issue.

Edit: Rice also wasn't that tall, nor that fast. He WORKED harder than anyone else who ever played that position. Michael Irvin may have had his off-field problems, but he wasn't all that fast and in practice and in games, he was NO Diva, and he also out WORKED everyone else at his position. Want some more names?

Looking back, 49ers always have good hard working wr's

The phins are too modest, now that peezy is gone this is even more true

Miami Dolphins want to avoid "scoring touchdowns when the game is on the line".

Ted Ginn plays like a girl, does that qualify him to be our diva?

I hate Omar Kelly.

The list of divas is much shorter then the list of non divas at that position. But because all you ever hear about is said divas latest off field bs it just makes it seem the opposite. There are a lot more cj and Fitzgerald non diva WR's then there are Chad Johnson's.

Then they'll probably never have an elite WR on the team. That's just something you have to usually put up with at that position unfortunately. Jerry Rice retired so I don't see many options for an elite receiver minus the attitude.

The pats had no problem signing problem child randy moss.Wow he has only scored 47 tds in 3 seasons for the pats.I wouldn't want a trouble maker on my team like that.
I would rather have a good guy like pat white and ted ginn to spread joy in the locker room and suck on the field.

"PhinsRock wrote:

Jerry Rice was anything but a Diva, and nobody has EVER played the position better. Don't tell me it is the nature of the position, it is the nature of the mental disposition, and I'll put my trust in Parcells on this issue.

Edit: Rice also wasn't that tall, nor that fast. He WORKED harder than anyone else who ever played that position. Michael Irvin may have had his off-field problems, but he wasn't all that fast and in practice and in games, he was NO Diva, and he also out WORKED everyone else at his position. Want some more names?

I won't argue that there were, and still are some great non-"diva" WRs in the league. Can you find one we can get? Any available in the draft? Maybe, but it looks like Dez Bryant might be a "diva" as well. Any in free agency? Anquan Boldin was one of them. He's gone. Brandon Marshall and T.O. are about all that's left. It's a win now league. We have a huge need at WR. You can't always get the super talented, high character player. Sometimes you have to take the baggage with the talent. Or continue to put a group of mediocre nice guys on the field and we'll continue to watch other teams that realize how important the passing game is in today's NFL win the superbowl.

Jerry Rice was one of a kind. By the time the Dolphins find their Jerry Rice at receiver, some of us won't be around to see it.

I don't think the problem with Marshall is that he's a diva, the problem is that he's a coach killer, has an arrest record and you worry that he will be suspended by the league for a long time. Parcells got along fine with Meshawn, a diva for sure but the guy worked hard and didn't get in trouble. Some of the things Marshall has done get glossed over by fans, this guy is a major risk/major reward type player, he's not just a ego that likes to be stroked, he's a guy thats had major problems off the field and with coaching staffs.

I don't buy that you have to put up with this kind of behavior 'because of the position', thats a made up argument, theres been plenty of WRs in this league that aren't getting arrested or suspended by their team and still put up good numbers. Remember, Marshall wants a huge payday as well as us having to give up the 12th overall pick.

"Uncle Rico wrote:

Ted Ginn plays like a girl, does that qualify him to be our diva?

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!! to me diva means you are a p***y, Ted Ginn is a diva...that is such a stupid name that I think Sporano dubbed for somebody a while back, and it caught on....Lets look at some "divas" TO, 85, BM, Q (could have been considered one), Moss, are you kidding me I would take any of those guys in a minute!!!! All of those guys ARE NOT divas expect Moss, all of those guy went over the middle (except Moss) more times last year in 8 games, THAN GINN HAS DONE IN HIS CAREER!!!!!! TO is/was a beast, tough gritty, remember that SB played on a broken ankle??, 85 almost got his head knocked off 3 times last year literally that can remember, Q got his jaw wired shut, and played the next week, Brandon Marshall is anything but a diva, the kid is hungry young and unstoppable.....again...WHO CARES IF THEY ARE COCKY!!!!!!! I want my WR's to be cocky, you HAVE to be cocky as a WR to go over the middle in today's NFL, this isnt the 50-60's NFL...these guys are alot stronger, quicker....

Being honest can anybody tell me they definitely want so and so at 12 in this years draft.....AND 80% of people on this board would agree with.....like Vontae last year?? Or Long?? or Brady Quinn (even though I didn't want him, I wanted Willis that year ha!)...this year at 12, there are alot more reaches than sure picks, at least I see that thru the posts on here...and I have even flipped alot too....if your first round pick was Brandon Marshall how the hell are you going wrong!?!?!?!

"Phinatic425 wrote:

The phins are too modest, now that peezy is gone this is even more true

The Dolphins are to "diva" and in my meaning not used the way it is now, but to weak, to p***y like....Dolphins have always been that non-aggressive, non physical team, when will that change??

"finyank13 wrote:

The Dolphins are to "diva" and in my meaning not used the way it is now, but to weak, to p***y like....Dolphins have always been that non-aggressive, non physical team, when will that change??

they played far from non aggressive, non physical this last season, especially on defense.

"unluckyluciano wrote:

they played far from non aggressive, non physical this last season, especially on defense.

they arent tough enough, they are weak...Porter got pushed around like a rag doll all year...crowder was a non-factor, AA you saw many a times get pushed back after the point of contact...they do not bring a tough physical style of football...except for Ricky, and Polite and the OL.....I do not equate blitzing with being aggressive, I'm talking knocked somebody in the mouth like the Jets do......

In case any of you guys missed the show last year, we lost most of our games due to our defense giving up 20+ points like it was going out of style. So please lets not try to misrepresent it by saying that the Dolphins will never go to the playoffs without an All Star Receiver.

That being said, typecasting all Wide Receivers as Attention Whores/Troublemakers is just not right. Example: Andre Johnson. One of the better receivers in the league, I haven't heard a peep about.

Ocho Cinco, Terrell Owens, Brandon Marshall, and after that I'm having a hard time coming up with "Diva" receivers.

The point of the matter is it's a really bad assumption to say you HAVE to put up with a toxic ego at ANY position, to win a superbowl. How many superbowl wins do TO, Ocho, or Brandon Marshall have?