Salguero must be bored. So Ginn doesn't like contact? Who cares? He wasn't signed to be Hines Ward. And a lack of contact hasn't hurt Marvin Harrison's career.

 

I hate armando.. all he does is stir crap.. had you identified who the author was, I never would have have given him the traffic.

 

Exactly, he had a rare decent article yesterday but as a whole..err..no thanks.

 

I am tired of this crap about Ginn. Why get him killed and lose another receiver.....I mean is that what people want??

 

Yeah he is not real big and he is not a power guy. Why would w want him to get hurt? He was yelled at after the 3rd down play where he went out of bounds. I think he does a good job for us

 

Drops too many passes....:lol:


Care to enlighten me as to how many drops he has this year??

 

He waltzes out of bounds because 190lb wideouts don't fare too well against 220lb safeties at speed. Same complaints aren't levelled against Reggie Wayne when he does it or Marvin Harrison and Wayne is one of the best wideouts in the game and Harrison is a first ballot Hall of Famer.

I've seen Ginn drop 3 passes all season, 2 in the same game, the first of his Miami career.

This is all conjecture. I'd rather have Ginn lining up at WR ready to make plays than on the treatment table because Jim1 wanted him to lower his shoulder against Jon Beason.

 

Two drops came because he was looking up field to make plays, against Denver and the Patriots. The other drop came in the same New England game.

 

So you'd rather him pointlessly take on linebackers and big safeties to gain an extra half yard? If he needs to on 3rd down or to stretch over the goaline, then so be it; lower the shoulder, get what you can. But on a regulation play, I want him in the line-up rather than on IR because he tried to take on a Donte Whitner or a Kerry Rhodes and got knocked stupid.

 

Ted Ginn is our leading Wr in terms of yardage, if he goes down we are looking at Bess and Wilford starting for us...

He also has an outside shot at 1,000 yds for us, the first Wr to even sniff that in years, if that means he avoids hits, that is the way it is, as long as he doesn't alligator arm passes or make a habit of going out of bounds early, it's not like Ginn is going to punish safeties or cb's the way Ronnie does.

 

Ginn just needs to play his game. Yeah, on third down and close or at the goaline, he must "take on" whomever is coming at him to try and keep the drive going or get the score. On a regular play, diving out of bounds do avoid a crushing blow and stay to fight another play, is fine with me. Just has to know the situation and play accordingly. That will come with experience, playing time, and coaching.

 

You were there in the locker room when he had the "riot act" read were you?

Ginn is what he is. You take off fraility points and throw in playmaking points. It is what it is.

 

Hmmmm lets see:
Dwayne Bowe - 6'2" - 221 lbs.

Ted Ginn - 5'11" - 178 lbs.

Marvin Harrison - 6'0" - 185 lbs.

Nope, I'll take Ginn and Harrison all day long and in 1/2 a heartbeat. Teddy please just keep running out OB or falling down and MAKE those plays. Don't want you hurt my man!!

 

I've forgotten more than you know sonny Jim. And have you ever heard of the internet? It carries the same stories!

 

do we think ginn is going to be breaking gang tackles and taking it to the house? if its clear hes gonna get hit and tackled id rather he go down...

its the old rams mike martz philosophy he told torry holt and issac bruce... GET DOWN... and look at the success they had... a small WR isn't going to power through gang tackles, so id rather he stay healthy than have someone roll up on his knee while fighting for a yard he most likely wont get...

 

Except we both know that's not the point. The point is that if he protects himself like Harrison, then better for Miami.

 

Not to go too far OT, but Ginn over Bowe?

Or am I misreading sarcasm. :)

 

Are you one of those silver surfers old Jim? You might not know that the "nitty gritty" makes the internet. It also makes for nice conversations WITH the local media.

 

You incited that by telling him since he lives in Britan he cannot possibly know what is going on with the Dolphins. He was having a nice discussion with you until you decided to throw that out there.

 

to get back on topic. The first thing i think of when i think of ginn isn't big physical guy that can barrel through safeties. I think of a short receiver with a small frame.

 

Stick to the argument that you lost.

 

What's a cumpet?

Is it like a carpet?

Or is it an octogenarian word for trying to describe Chad Pennington as having bad mechanics?

Stick to the Ted Ginn story. You want him to take unecessary punishment, most of the rest would rather he was on the field. It's no biggie.

 

The reality is that his lowering the shoulder and heading up field will probably result in more injuries than yards after contact.

 

Boomer knows what a CRUMPET is. You had written Cumpet apparently.

Honestly this 'fued' (if you want to call it that) between you guys is getting really annoying.

 

Along with more fumbles which result in Turnovers, which result in losing football games.

I'm ok with the 5-8 yards Ginn sacrifices, as long as he holds onto the football.

 

Might help if you spelt it correctly pops. I'm sure the old eyesight is going and it's hard to see the keys.

Did you think we were playing Ann Francisco this weekend or were you confused because she sounded like a date of yours during the Civil War?