Miami's Next HC - is Mike McDaniel! (4 yr contract)

Good. Daboll has been mediocre until he got a stud QB. I'd prefer a 2nd-run Vance Joseph over Daboll. Don't want Vance but at least he's been a HC before.

Daboll has Matt Patricia vibes.

I don't think I'll be happy with whoever we hire unfortunately.

A lot of the Dolphins bloggers/casters printing their cards for the Mike McDaniel club:

"Galant wrote:

Too many missteps, trust/faith in them has gone.
Even in this cycle, ditching Flores amidst all sorts of rumours and drama, then saying the HC will choose the QB, then apparently wanting to stick with Tua, then word that they're going to keep the defensive staff... all before they've hired a head coach?

Just no way to run a franchise.

I still fail to see the big deal about them saying the HC will make the decision but a report also coming out saying they expect Tua will be the QB. Even if the coach does have the say it of course its extremely likely Tua would stay.

If true, let's hope this doesn't cause further fractures...

"Fireland wrote:

I still fail to see the big deal about them saying the HC will make the decision but a report also coming out saying they expect Tua will be the QB. Even if the coach does have the say it of course its extremely likely Tua would stay.

It's an issue because at that point Ross and Grier have no idea who the HC will be, nor what requirements he might have, or how the dynamics might work. You don't make that sort of declaration if you don't have to. There's absolutely no gain to saying this in a press conference, but potential for damage if you do.

"Galant wrote:

It's an issue because at that point Ross and Grier have no idea who the HC will be, nor what requirements he might have, or how the dynamics might work. You don't make that sort of declaration if you don't have to. There's absolutely no gain to saying this in a press conference, but potential for damage if you do.

The Giants came out and fully embraced Daniel Jones publicly and there is even less reason to do so

"Fireland wrote:

The Giants came out and fully embraced Daniel Jones publicly and there is even less reason to do so

It wasn't that. It was stating the future HC gets to pick the QB.
Then later talk that Tua is their guy.

"Galant wrote:

We don't yet know (and likely never will) who they are/were targeting. So whether or not they missed is impossible to say.
Whatever choice they make now it'll be a coach other teams don't seem to have been looking at, so it had better work out. Unless Ross pull Harbaugh out of a hat but I've seen nothing to substantiate that as a real possibility.

Right to me this is a complete failure if he doesn't get Harbaugh now. They pissed around and let these coaches go. They will say whoever they get was their choice of course but I don't believe anything from them now. Poorly run team with no real direction tarnishing the Dolphins Legacy each year. He's a Jets fan so Im going to say he's doing all this on purpose to bring us to a bottom dweller.

Everyone still think Brian Flores being fired was a good idea? Still think the Dolphins will land a top coach out of all this? Stephen Ross and Chris Grier are the NFL's biggest joke. We're going nowhere with these clowns in charge. Our first choice has turned us down. Dan Quinn has turned us down. Nobody else is worth mentioning because this was a doomed search from the start when you keep your lame duck GM with your lame duck owner.

This ship is sinking faster than the Titantic that's for sure. Thanks Stephen Ross for your almighty wisdom and leadership!

:rolleyes:

For the record... Daboll and Quinn aren't really worth the while either; but damn; this is bad. Sounds like our coaching searches from the last how many years now? Unreal. Whoever we hire is just another lame duck coach destined to fail until we blow it up again and blow that opportunity too on Stephen Ross' inability to be the leader an NFL team needs.

"Galant wrote:

It wasn't that. It was stating the future HC gets to pick the QB.
Then later talk that Tua is their guy.

Ross the new coach will make the call on Watson which is essentially the same thing the Ian Rapoport story said in regards to Tua.

"Galant wrote:

Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll has been offered and is accepting the Giants job, per sources. New York gets alignment for new GM Joe Schoen. Miami had Daboll as a finalist as well.@RapSheet on it first.

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) January 28, 2022

Daboll is gone.

Thank you Jesus.

"Fireland wrote:

Ross the new coach will make the call on Watson which is essentially the same thing the Ian Rapoport story said in regards to Tua.

Nope. Ross said that the Watson question had no part in the decision on firing Flores, and then said Tua is the QB right now but the new HC would decide that going forward:

"Q: I'd like to ask you what role if any, the quarterback position played in this decision? Was there a question over whether Tua is your man for the future? How much does Deshaun Watson play into it? And was there disagreement over which direction you should go at quarterback?

“First of all, let me be clear, it played no role in it at all. I have a lot of confidence in Tua and I think the next head coach will work with him or whoever else. But I have a lot of confidence in him. I watched him grow. He's a fine young man, and he is right now our quarterback and that will be dependent upon the new head coach but I have a lot of confidence in Tua."

McDaniel to the raiders says my cousin who's a raiders fan. Not sure if that's official or legit.

If true though; lets all bask in the glory of being the new laughing stock of the nfl. Thanks Grier. Thanks Ross.

"brandon27 wrote:

McDaniel to the raiders says my cousin who's a raiders fan. Not sure if that's official or legit.

If true though; lets all bask in the glory of being the new laughing stock of the nfl. Thanks Grier. Thanks Ross.

Josh McDaniels, not Mike McDaniel. Listed in the other general thread.

"Galant wrote:

A lot of the Dolphins bloggers/casters printing their cards for the Mike McDaniel club:

Agree 100%. If Tua is their guy then McDaniel has to be the choice. His style of offense highlights everything Tua does well. Quick decision, precision and accuracy. Could be a game changer. https://t.co/XJOb6uePqI

— PhinsPhocus (@Phins_Phocus) January 29, 2022

Highly doubt Ross is making considerations on his next coach based off Tua, the least talented player on his roster

"Vertical Limit wrote:

Highly doubt Ross is making considerations on his next coach based off Tua, the least talented player on his roster

Maybe not, but that's what he's said, he believes in Tua. If reports are to be believed then Ross and Grier are hoping to find someone who also believes in Tua.

"Galant wrote:

Josh McDaniels, not Mike McDaniel. Listed in the other general thread.

Ahhh. ok. either way; im not sold on mike mcdaniel either. This search is a complete disaster and I expect nothing less from Ross and Grier.

"Galant wrote:

Maybe not, but that's what he's said, he believes in Tua. If reports are to be believed then Ross and Grier are hoping to find someone who also believes in Tua.

Unless an elite QB becomes an option. Which is the only real option they have.

Face it folks, it’s going to be Vance Joseph

"Galant wrote:

Nope. Ross said that the Watson question had no part in the decision on firing Flores, and then said Tua is the QB right now but the new HC would decide that going forward:

"Q: I'd like to ask you what role if any, the quarterback position played in this decision? Was there a question over whether Tua is your man for the future? How much does Deshaun Watson play into it? And was there disagreement over which direction you should go at quarterback?

“First of all, let me be clear, it played no role in it at all. I have a lot of confidence in Tua and I think the next head coach will work with him or whoever else. But I have a lot of confidence in him. I watched him grow. He's a fine young man, and he is right now our quarterback and that will be dependent upon the new head coach but I have a lot of confidence in Tua."

I have no idea how people are reading this differently.

"Dol-Fan Dupree wrote:

I have no idea how people are reading this differently.

They're reading it differently because there were a couple of unattributed tweets that suggested that the Dolphins were "all in" for Tua now that Flo is gone. People read these tweets from unknown sources and rumor becomes gospel truth.

"The_Dark_Knight wrote:

Face it folks, it’s going to be Vance Joseph

This would be a new low for Miami.

"Galant wrote:

Nope. Ross said that the Watson question had no part in the decision on firing Flores, and then said Tua is the QB right now but the new HC would decide that going forward:

"Q: I'd like to ask you what role if any, the quarterback position played in this decision? Was there a question over whether Tua is your man for the future? How much does Deshaun Watson play into it? And was there disagreement over which direction you should go at quarterback?

“First of all, let me be clear, it played no role in it at all. I have a lot of confidence in Tua and I think the next head coach will work with him or whoever else. But I have a lot of confidence in him. I watched him grow. He's a fine young man, and he is right now our quarterback and that will be dependent upon the new head coach but I have a lot of confidence in Tua."

I was actually thinking about this quote earlier today and thinking to myself how reporters set themselves up to fsil when they ask multilayered questions. If the person doesn't want to adress the question they just pick a piece of it and answer that instead. He just talked about how much he liked Tua and not anything about if Watson played a part in it. A smart business man will answer the questions he wants in a very specific way.

To be honest. Even if they asked all those questions 1 at a time...Ross would never answer it honestly so my point is null anyway, but what im saying is Ross didn't even habe a chance to tap dance it because he just sidestepped it right out the gate.

That man always sounds like he has no idea what is going on yet he is a billionaire tycoon. I think it's all an act to never answer a question honestly...but then again he really could be clueless.