Microsoft faces new Xbox 360 reliability accusations - Video Game Feature - Yahoo! Video Games
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Not surprising. Their entire strategy was to get a jumpstart on the competition, quality or no quality. People buy it anyway, why should they care? The thing is that nothing will come of this. Consumers rarely care about quality anymore, half the 360s in the country could explode tomorrow and most of those people would just go buy a new one. Or wait three weeks to get a new one under their warranty while complaining that the Wii is for kids and the PS3 is nothing but a blu-ray player with no games out yet.
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What else is new? They've already conceded that the warning sticker included with the console was an insufficient response.
The 360 engineer who talked extensively about why RRoD occurs mentioned that the console was rushed to beat Sony to the market, and the project heads (who had a software background, meaning they had a mentality that you could ship a broken product and fix it later) knew the 360 was a flawed product but prioritized shipping over quality.
I hope the Jasper 360s are of decent quality. It's ridiculous how 360 owners have gotten screwed from the get-go, and they deserve to have a working product.Get Up And Go and MonstBlitz like this. -
I had that problem. Mainly ate the sports games. Really f'ed up my Gears CD. I now have sleeves for my games instead of the hard plastic. Also don't leave your games in the 360.
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Just like the PS2 last generation crappily made but sales like hotcakes.
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I agree the PS2 wasn't as bad as the 360 is now but comparing the last two generations the PS2 was this generations 360. The 360 is easily the most poorly made console ever I would say but that is what MS does most of the time.muscle979 likes this. -
Compare that to Microsoft's going through at least two major hardware redesigns that have failed to quell RRoD. Now, consoles normally get refined and redesigned throughout their life, and these redesigns are unannounced--they just ship. It's pretty bad when the tech press not only has the codenames for the hardware iterations--Jasper, Falcon, etc--but when people actually wait for the redesigns. -
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Desides was right they fixed the problem but the "Disc Read Error" was still huge and the but of many jokes. No where near as bad as the 360 but a problem nonetheless. You guys do understand I was making a comparison to show this had happened before with consoles on some level...sheesh. :lol:
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this is a stupid accusation IMO. I think it falls into the common sense category...don't move your XBox while the drive is spinning. I have had to send back 4 XBox's for RRoD and freezing, but have never once had the inclination to move the unit while playing a game or while it's on.
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I stopped using it in the vertical position thats when it would start to scratch the discs.
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i only use mine standing vertically... The only time it scratched the disc is when my little brother knocked it over. Poor Vikings....
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Damn NES. Always having to blow into the cartridge and crap. And lets not forget the folded up piece of paper you had to wedge in there to keep the cartridge down because the spring broke. (is that considered a mod?)
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It's overwhelming.mor911 likes this. -
Thats what happens when you rush a product.
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You sell millions apparently.
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xbox360? product reliability issues?? no way.... mine just died tonight for the second time. im nowhere near impressed. and i let the piece of crap on their tech support line know it too. shockingly though, nobody there cares. same old routine... ill mail you a box, you mail the system in, and we'll send you another refurbed piece of crap... cant wait... what a joke. i love my 360 when its working... but issues like this, over, and over, and over again... are just pathetic.
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Btw Microsoft said it only effects 1%
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Edit: fixed the math. The 18 million sales figure I had before is from the beginning of the year, not the most current sales data.BuckeyeKing likes this. -
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We also grow the market through new products – some work, some don’t, that’s just the Sony way. And on that point, another thing we have committed to for supporting market growth is putting out quality hardware – you don’t grow the market by putting out shoddy machines. So we try to make sure that PS3s have a failure rate of just two to three per cent, which is very low by industry standards.
David Reeves, SCEE President
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Shrinking the GPU to 65nm will help with heat, but if RRoD is a function of the motherboard warping because of extreme chip heat, and if the reduction to 65nm can reduce chip heat on the board to the point where it doesn't warp, there's still a question of whether or not that excess heat is being properly ventilated.sking29 likes this. -
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Im hoping the newer Falcon machines are OK....Iver heard they did something by moving the memory to help with the heat...
I keep the 360 all by itself on the desk...nothing around it to impeed air flow...Im hoping that will be enough to keep it cool....
Our machine was built mid october..and has the 175W power pack..soooo....Im assuming its not the Jasper, although I heard MS may still use up the old power packs and some 175W machines could indeed be Jasper.....
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The RROD and disc scratch errors are 2 seperate things arent they? They set that money aside for the damaging publicity from the RROD error. The disc scratch thing is not nearly as common unless your a moron who moves your console while the drive is on.
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RRoD persists with Falcon units.