Possible MLB Steroid List Leaked??
Not sure if this list is real or fake, nor do I understand the order as listed but it is popping up all over message boards today so I thought I would post it here for discussion.
I personally think its a fake list...but the names are interesting for sure. No Albert, No Griffey, No Jeter, No Chipper...all good if true.
(one of several sites with this list http://rotoinfo.com/read_article.php?articleId=318)
1. Nomar Garciaparra
2. Manny Ramirez
3. Johnny Damon
4. Trot Nixon
5. David Ortiz
6. Shea Hillenbrand
7. Derek Lowe
8. Pedro Martinez
9. Brian Roberts
10. Jay Gibbons
11. Melvin Mora
12. Jerry Hairston
13. Jason Giambi
14. Alfonso Soriano
15. Raul Mondesi
16. Aaron Boone
17. Andy Pettitte
18. Jose Contreras
19. Roger Clemens
20. Carlos Delgado
21. Vernon Wells
22. Frank Catalanotto
23. Kenny Rogers
24. Magglio Ordonez
25. Sandy Alomar
26. Bartolo Colon
27. Brent Abernathy
28. Jose Lima
29. Milton Bradley
30. Casey Blake
31. Danys Baez
32. Craig Monroe
33. Dmitri Young
34. Alex Sanchez
35. Eric Chavez
36. Miguel Tejada
37. Eric Byrnes
38. Jose Guillen
39. Keith Foulke
40. Ricardo Rincon
41. Bret Boone
42. Mike Cameron
43. Randy Winn
44. Ryan Franklin
45. Freddy Garcia
46. Rafael Soriano
47. Scott Spiezio
48. Troy Glaus
49. Francisco Rodriguez
50. Ben Weber
51. Alex Rodriguez
52. Juan Gonzalez
53. Rafael Palmeiro
54. Carl Everett
55. Javy Lopez
56. Gary Sheffield
57. Mike Hampton
58. Ivan Rodriguez
59. Derrek Lee
60. Bobby Abreu
61. Terry Adams
62. Fernando Tatis
63. Livan Hernandez
64. Hector Almonte
65. Tony Armas
66. Dan Smith
67. Roberto Alomar
68. Cliff Floyd
69. Roger Cedeno
70. Jeromy Burnitz
71. Moises Alou
72. Sammy Sosa
73. Corey Patterson
74. Carlos Zambrano
75. Mark Prior
76. Kerry Wood
77. Matt Clement
78. Antonio Alfonseca
79. Juan Cruz
80. Aramis Ramirez
81. Craig Wilson
82. Kris Benson
83. Richie Sexson
84. Geoff Jenkins
85. Valerio de los Santos
86. Benito Santiago
87. Rich Aurilia
88. Barry Bonds
89. Andres Galarraga
90. Jason Schmidt
91. Felix Rodriguez
92. Jason Christiansen
93. Matt Herges
94. Paul Lo Duca
95. Shawn Green
96. Jeromy Burnitz
97. Adrian Beltre
98. Eric Gagne
99. Guillermo Mota
100. Luis Gonzalez
101. Todd Helton
102. Ryan Klesko
103. Gary Matthews
104. Oliver Perez
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SICK, Alex44 and unluckyluciano like this.
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I love the random names like Antonio Alfonseca. Just goes to show steroids dont always make you a star :lol:
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Yeah, that was proven with the Mitchell report and Randy Valarde, David Segui on it.:hi5:
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I say ban every one of the cheating bastards. Liars, cheaters, thiefs and thugs are ruining this world and should be dealt with accordingly.
*** I realize this isn't a current list, but I think it should be a one strike and done system *****
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you forgot the most important no chipper jones :tongue2:Rocky Raccoon, charlestonphan and Jt0323 like this.
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If true!!!......lots of names not listed rebuild some trust....but then again a name not on the list simply means not tested postive for this specific testing.
This 2003 testing was KNOWN testing to all who took it per the agreement with the union...and 104 fools got caught.....stupid is as stupid does. -
I think we should hold off from discussions until we find out if the list is real or not however I see 2 names on the list that I know were users and know 1 of those names indeed are on the real list.
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you guys don't discuss it, im already drunk and celebrating. :pointlol:
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My sentiment is more a generality not so much based on the names on the list. It's would be a very easy list to forge. Sprinkle in a few confirmed users and you lend instant credibility.
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And this is different from any other day for you? I mean besides the dead hookers of course.Rocky Raccoon and unluckyluciano like this.
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Its not that its a current list...its speculation on the OFFICIAL 104 list that did test positive in 2003...which proved that over 5% in MLB was using PED...that 5%+ (I think that was the agreement) forced the unions and MLB FO to change rules and create further testing and penalties.
This 104 was never published but the recent names being leaked have led to the AROD and Sosa outings.....everyone believes someone in the Justice Dept is leaking these names, and if true, the full list has finally been leaked.
The joke, is that MLB FO and the Union agreed to the testing (anonymous in theory, but they put the players names on the bottle to track who was abusing...idiots), and the UNION was supposed to have destroyed the list, but through some error it was kept and not destroyed.
The Bonds case is what has supposedly led to the finding of this list from subpoenas of the Lab that conducted the testing, etc.
Who knows..but a comedy of errors has lead to the list being found, names being exposed, and Mitchell report details, etc. -
yeah but this time I'm not crying............. of course till the dead hooker part..........Ray Finkle likes this.
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I am not asking anyone to be convicted, but simply like yourself, we have some that have inside info to add to the discussion. :hi5:
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Haha sorry but I'm not saying anything more. I've been told by more than 1 credible source but there's no way I'd disclose who, especially on a message board. Maybe after 5 or 6 beers that's another story.... :up:unluckyluciano and BigDogsHunt like this.
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Richie Sexson
Who did he play for? There was a Richie Sexson that played for the Columbus Redstixx several years ago. It was the Cleveland farm team.
I remember him as tall and skinny.
IF it is him, it's a shame, he was good. -
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http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sexsori01.shtml
Came up with CLE, time with MIL and SEA are most known. :hi5:dolphindebby likes this. -
Weird...oh, well.....:tantrum::cry:
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Thanks. He was such a nice kid. I hate it if this is true.
Watched him on first base down here, he was pretty good.
He played when Pete Rose Jr. was playing down here, if I'm not mistaken.
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I counted 19 former or current Dodgers. :lol:
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I think it's safe to say the list is fake. It's been more than a few hours and none of the major sports news stations or websites have picked it up or even commented on it.
Seriously who the hell is #66 Dan Smith? I can't for the life of me remember him even after looking him up and he actually pitched in 3 games for the Red Sox in 2000.BigDogsHunt likes this. -
YES, No Albert Pujols. Better yet, no Marlins!
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Sad as it is I have 22 mets on that list. Delgado, Pedro and Shawn Green would truly surprise me. Not that the Mets are immune but i felt those guys had character, instead of being characters. I refuse to believe Livan's on there. He simply throws too many pitches to do steroids; his arm would simply fall off. Just last month he threw over 200 pitches in a game between the actual game (127) and warmups (85)
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Yeah I agree that it is most likely fake. If this was the real list, it was be huge breaking news on all sports sites and regular news would be talking about it as well.Ray Finkle likes this.
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Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει
Not to mention that Barry Bonds is implicated on this list. Had it been true, this would be the smoking gun that EVERYBODY had been waiting for. -
Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει
Shawn Green and Pedro were on my list of former Dodgers too. Shawn Green seems like he has a ton of intregity, but then again, so did a lot of guys who later ended up being exposed.
I don't think that this list is accurate, but there really wasn't a name on it that completely surprised me either. I suppose it goes to show you the level of jaded we all have become as baseball fans. -
i was surprised i didnt see andruw jones name
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Julio Franco for me....
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finfansince72 Season Ticket Holder Club Member
That is surprising, I mean the guy was ripped and still playing at 73 years old lol. -
Let me ask this question again... What's the difference between the MLB and WWE? Both are fake.
It's sad that people give this league enough attention to keep it "premier"... Sad. It doesn't deserve prime time spotlights. -
Steroids isnt what makes the WWE fake...And if drug use is all it takes to make a league fake the NFL has been fake for a very long time.Jt0323, BigDogsHunt, Ray Finkle and 1 other person like this.
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I'm not buying the list. If it is true, glad Vlad isnt on it. Other than that I'm not buying it at all. This thing would be all over ESPN if it were confirmed as true. I'll wait for that confirmation before giving this list much weight.
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we already said that captain repeat . :pity:
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pffft, suuuure you did.
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