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PhinsRDbestPhinsRDbestforum_veteranOP
Feb 7, 2010, 02:15 PM

1. Jared Odrick NT Will fill the role as a Jay Ratliff type Nose and he's versatile enough to play other positions if need be.
2. Nate Allen FS ball-hawking safety this team desperately needs to complete the secodary.
3. Jason Worilds OLB Perfect prospect for a solb in a 3-4.
4. AJ Edds ILB Has the size and has great coverage ability.
6a. Blair White WR Shrine bowl star from Michigan State. (would be interesting to see Henne, a Wolverine, throwing to Hartline of Ohio State and White of Michigan State)
6b. Rahim Alem OLB You can never have enough linebackers would come in and compete with Moses and Walden.
6c. Colin Peek TE All the talk was about Jimmy Graham leading up to the Senior bowl. But it was Peek who looked impressive in the game with a td catch, also is a good blocker.
7a. Chris Cook CB Another corner in Sean Smith mold.
7b. Keiland Willams RB Has the size at runningback the FO looks for.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 02:30 PM

I can't imagine Worlids, Edds, or Peek lasting to those picks. Edds is the most likely of the three IMO though.

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

ALalen1New Member
Feb 7, 2010, 02:35 PM

"Stitches wrote:

I can't imagine Worlids, Edds, or Peek lasting to those picks. Edds is the most likely of the three IMO though.

Add Balir White too IMO.

PhinsRDbestPhinsRDbestforum_veteran
Feb 7, 2010, 03:58 PM

Thanks for the input. Its hard to project some of they guys without insider info. How about this for the for the first four rounds:
1. Jared Odrick NT
2. Nate Allen FS
3. AJ Edds ILB
4. Blair White WR
Round 6 and 7 are near impossible to predict so I'll skip em.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 04:02 PM

It seems plausible for sure. I don't know that I'd be excited about such a draft though. Not saying I'll be excited about our actual draft (when it's over) either though.

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

#1dolphinsfan#1dolphinsfanNew Member
Feb 7, 2010, 04:55 PM

Odrick is a DE in the 34 maybe if you put dan williams in the first fine but odrick at 12 is to high IMO

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 05:05 PM

"#1dolphinsfan wrote:

Odrick is a DE in the 34 maybe if you put dan williams in the first fine but odrick at 12 is to high IMO

I see no reason he couldn't play any spot on the line.

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 05:19 PM

"Stitches wrote:

I see no reason he couldn't play any spot on the line.

I strongly agree with Pete here, HOWEVER, especially with the incredible lack of talent we currently have at MLB, he would not fit the bill for us at NT.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 05:27 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

I strongly agree with Pete here, HOWEVER, especially with the incredible lack of talent we currently have at MLB, he would not fit the bill for us at NT.

I'm going to be honest, I don't understand what you mean.

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 05:38 PM

"Stitches wrote:

I'm going to be honest, I don't understand what you mean.

I don't see him as being the tree-trunk taking on double and triple team type that our very pedestrian MLB's need to be able to get involved.
What I do see is another player much in the Mold of Randy Starks. One that wins with finesse and athleticism. Not brute force.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 05:48 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

I don't see him as being the tree-trunk taking on double and triple team type that our very pedestrian MLB's need to be able to get involved.
What I do see is another player much in the Mold of Randy Starks. One that wins with finesse and athleticism. Not brute force.

Well no he isn't going to take on triple teams, but he probably would get double teamed often. I don't see why we should pass on him just because of mediocre ILBs though (unless it's to upgrade the ILB spot) if we think he's the best player. Odrick (like Starks) wins with penetration, they aren't always asked to hold his ground to allow others to move around. Odrick (like Starks) is likely very strong. Having strength and speed are not bad things. :lol:

Odrick would not be a 2 down player like the "tree-trunk" type Terrance Cody would be.

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

azfinfanmangazfinfanmangluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 05:52 PM

"Stitches wrote:

Well no he isn't going to take on triple teams, but he probably would get double teamed often. I don't see why we should pass on him just because of mediocre ILBs though (unless it's to upgrade the ILB spot) if we think he's the best player. Odrick (like Starks) wins with penetration, they aren't always asked to hold his ground to allow others to move around. Odrick (like Starks) is likely very strong. Having strength and speed are not bad things. :lol:

Odrick would not be a 2 down player like the "tree-trunk" type Terrance Cody would be.

No, he would be another ultimate infielder much like Starks is.
I love Starks, but even knowing he is what he is, I wouldn't spend the 12 overall on him either :wink2:

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 08:50 PM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

No, he would be another ultimate infielder much like Starks is.
I love Starks, but even knowing he is what he is, I wouldn't spend the 12 overall on him either :wink2:

What if Odrick was another Richard Seymour (assuming Odrick plays DE for us) would you spend #12 if you knew that? (just curious)

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

PhinsRDbestPhinsRDbestforum_veteran
Feb 7, 2010, 09:16 PM

"Stitches wrote:

What if Odrick was another Richard Seymour (assuming Odrick plays DE for us) would you spend #12 if you knew that? (just curious)

That''s one of my reasons for mock drafting him, if he can't play NT(Which I don't see a reason why not)or if Soliai grows into his potential, he is versatile enough to play DE. Cody and Williams don't have that option.

ALalen1New Member
Feb 7, 2010, 09:37 PM

"Stitches wrote:

What if Odrick was another Richard Seymour (assuming Odrick plays DE for us) would you spend #12 if you knew that? (just curious)

Gerald McCoy is the next Richard Seymour IMO.

StitchesStitchesluxury_box
Feb 7, 2010, 09:38 PM

"alen1 wrote:

Gerald McCoy is the next Richard Seymour IMO.

Well I don't think we have a chance at him. :lol:

2017 Dream Draft (3/17 – NFLDraftScout ~ Rankings used)

22. Zach Cunningham, LB, Vandy
54. Desmond King, S/DB, Iowa
97. Demarcus Walker, DE, FSU
166. Jermaine Eluemunor, OL, TAMU
178. George Kittle, TE, Iowa
184. Charles Walker, DT, Oklahoma
223. Aviante Collins, OL, TCU

ALalen1New Member
Feb 7, 2010, 09:39 PM

"#1dolphinsfan wrote:

Odrick is a DE in the 34 maybe if you put dan williams in the first fine but odrick at 12 is to high IMO

I think Odrick can play end but I don't think nose is a spot that he would struggle at. He can play it and play it well IMO.

JMO but a nose tackle is never too high.

"azfinfanmang wrote:

I don't see him as being the tree-trunk taking on double and triple team type that our very pedestrian MLB's need to be able to get involved.
What I do see is another player much in the Mold of Randy Starks. One that wins with finesse and athleticism. Not brute force.

IMO, he's exactly like a tree trunk. He can take on double teams because of his very long arms and very good strength. He's also got enough quickness to get under blockers pads and cause some disruption in the backfield. He moves well. I like him a lot.

ALalen1New Member
Feb 7, 2010, 09:40 PM

"Stitches wrote:

Well I don't think we have a chance at him. :lol:

Haha, I agree. I wish though.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Feb 8, 2010, 12:52 AM

"azfinfanmang wrote:

I don't see him as being the tree-trunk taking on double and triple team type that our very pedestrian MLB's need to be able to get involved.
What I do see is another player much in the Mold of Randy Starks. One that wins with finesse and athleticism. Not brute force.

and exceptional hand technique.

djphinfandjphinfansubscriber
Feb 8, 2010, 12:55 AM

"alen1 wrote:

Haha, I agree. I wish though.

There are some folks that think he will be the better pro the Suh.

#1dolphinsfan#1dolphinsfanNew Member
Feb 8, 2010, 01:35 AM

"Stitches wrote:

I see no reason he couldn't play any spot on the line.

first i think he would need to gain a little weight at 295 maybe gain 10 pounds and it all depends on how he plays with his height if he plays at his entire 6'5 he would get killed at NT and would have a very short career but if he can play 6'2 or shorter then he would be fine

#1dolphinsfan#1dolphinsfanNew Member
Feb 8, 2010, 01:41 AM

"alen1 wrote:

I think Odrick can play end but I don't think nose is a spot that he would struggle at. He can play it and play it well IMO.

JMO but a nose tackle is never too high.

IM not saying NT is to high i am saying it is to high for Ordrick i konw for a fact that Dan Williams is going to be there at 12 and IMO he would be a better pick then Odrick who would need to gain a couple pounds and be able to play smaller then his 6'5 dan Williams is a perfect size for a NT 6'2 330 pounds with a great motor and in pretty good shape for his size if Odrick is a NFL he is going to have a short NFL career IMO i dont know how long he can take on 2 OL that are sometimes 40-50 pounds heavier then him with his size

ALalen1New Member
Feb 8, 2010, 10:28 AM

"#1dolphinsfan wrote:

IM not saying NT is to high i am saying it is to high for Ordrick i konw for a fact that Dan Williams is going to be there at 12 and IMO he would be a better pick then Odrick who would need to gain a couple pounds and be able to play smaller then his 6'5 dan Williams is a perfect size for a NT 6'2 330 pounds with a great motor and in pretty good shape for his size if Odrick is a NFL he is going to have a short NFL career IMO i dont know how long he can take on 2 OL that are sometimes 40-50 pounds heavier then him with his size

I really don't understand how an inconsistent player is worthy of the twelfth overall pick but a consistent player is not.

Weight's a bit overblown with nose tackles. You can be quality and be 305 pounds. You don't necessarily have to be 335 and a slob. I also don't think height is that significant, arm length is more important to me. Odrick's arms are 34 and a quarter inches whilst Williams' are 33.

Besides that, one of the best nose tackles in the league in this same exact scheme is about the same weight as Jared Odrick and that nose is Jay Ratliff.

ALalen1New Member
Feb 8, 2010, 10:29 AM

"#1dolphinsfan wrote:

first i think he would need to gain a little weight at 295 maybe gain 10 pounds and it all depends on how he plays with his height if he plays at his entire 6'5 he would get killed at NT and would have a very short career but if he can play 6'2 or shorter then he would be fine

He's 301 right now.

Big RedBig RedNew Member
Feb 8, 2010, 06:26 PM

"PhinsRDbest wrote:

1. Jared Odrick NT Will fill the role as a Jay Ratliff type Nose and he's versatile enough to play other positions if need be.
2. Nate Allen FS ball-hawking safety this team desperately needs to complete the secodary.
3. Jason Worilds OLB Perfect prospect for a solb in a 3-4.
4. AJ Edds ILB Has the size and has great coverage ability.
6a. Blair White WR Shrine bowl star from Michigan State. (would be interesting to see Henne, a Wolverine, throwing to Hartline of Ohio State and White of Michigan State)
6b. Rahim Alem OLB You can never have enough linebackers would come in and compete with Moses and Walden.
6c. Colin Peek TE All the talk was about Jimmy Graham leading up to the Senior bowl. But it was Peek who looked impressive in the game with a td catch, also is a good blocker.
7a. Chris Cook CB Another corner in Sean Smith mold.
7b. Keiland Willams RB Has the size at runningback the FO looks for.

Love the Edds pick.

I like Odrick, Worilds, and Alem. However if we draft a nose tackle at #12 I suspect it will be Dan Williams.

Not a fan of Allen, White, Peek, Cook, and Willams.

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