Ireland was her boss when she joined the team four years ago. But after Parcells left in October 2010, she lost her chief sponsor. And she wasn't comfortable with Ireland as her supervisor. So soon after Joe Philbin was hired, Aponte decided she and the new coach could bond and that alliance could strengthen each person's position within the organization.
Aponte, club sources say, also found ways to ingratiate herself to owner Stephen Ross. Nothing wrong with that. He's the boss. She would often ask to join Ross on his private jet flights back to New York from home games, often citing a need to handle club business at the league office in New York.
Knowing that Ireland had tried to get her fired, Aponte turned her sights on the GM. The relationship between the two, professional and even cordial in public at league meetings and alike, was a struggle for power behind the scenes.
Aponte, strengthened by her alliance with Philbin, had been winning that struggle for quite some time. She made herself very visible, attending practically every practice. She advised Philbin on how to handle the media before every weekday press conference -- that meeting sometimes taking longer than the actual press conference. She attended the coach's show and made sure the questions were positive and gave Philbin an opportunity to shine. She edited the videos the team posted on its website of the Philbin postgame speech to the players.
(Unfortunately for Philbin, she didn't think to cut out the part where coach needed to read off index cards to deliver his address).
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...ut-from-ireland-vs-dawnjoe.html#storylink=cpy
-- Knock it all you want because it's an Armando story, but it makes sense to me. Aponte- the conniving, power hungry manipulator. Philbin- the weak tool of a patsy head coach. I hope that we get rid of both of them.
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It makes sense except the part you added about Philbin. Is it possible she aligned herself with Philbin because he isn't a terrible coach?
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More Armando hogwash.
Oh Ireland the poor victim of the schemings of Dawn Aponte, aka The Wicked (B)Witch of the East, and her milquetoast puppet Joe Philbin, aka Pinocchio.
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BTW two tweets from Darlington 4m ago.
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I'd believe the Iraqi Defense Minister before I believe a single word coming out of Armando's piehole.RickyBobby, MAFishFan, WhiteIbanez and 13 others like this. -
And as to Armando- I've never been a fan, but this article in particular I find to be interesting. New info as to what's been going on behind the scenes as per Aponte, Ireland and Philbin. And yes, I want them all gone. Ireland and Aponte are jerks imo, regardless of your opinions on conniving, positioning, back stabbing, etc. Philbin is just too weak to be a head coach imo, and he made some lousy decisions. If he allowed Aponte to be at his side constantly and read those press conference index cards provided by Aponte of his own accord, then I have even less respect for him than I did before.ToddPhin likes this. -
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It’s a coveted job for number of reasons: 1. One of healthiest caps in NFL. 2. Young, talented QB. 3. Strong nucleus.
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This is not new info, but Armando selling the readers more snake oil. Seriously, doesn't this strike you at all as a disgruntled employee - Ireland - using his mouthpiece to smear and slander his former employer and coworkers? This information is almost certainly coming from Ireland, and considering it is more favorable to him, who was fired, and damning to those who stayed, doesn't it give you cause to pause and perhaps question the veracity and accuracy of the story?MikeHoncho and vizi0n like this. -
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If anyone in the organization can prove their stance or themselves then Ross is able to refocus.JCowScot, Mile High Fin, and 2 others like this. -
I never said that Ross wouldn't fire Ireland. What I'm hoping is that Aponte and Philbin get canned as well. You apparently have a great respect for the Machiavellian approach to advancement, but personally I'd rather see a positive and stable coaching staff and FO as opposed to back stabbing, smack talking, infighting, index card reading like a spineless robot, etc.
And as to Armando- I've never been a fan, but this article in particular I find to be interesting. New info as to what's been going on behind the scenes as per Aponte, Ireland and Philbin. And yes, I want them all gone. Ireland and Aponte are jerks imo, regardless of your opinions on conniving, positioning, back stabbing, etc. Philbin is just too weak to be a head coach imo, and he made some lousy decisions. If he allowed Aponte to be at his side constantly and read those press conference index cards provided by Aponte of his own accord, then I have even less respect for him than I did before.Click to expand...
How do you figure? Aponte forms an alliance with Philbin against Ireland which obviously wasn't constructed on good intentions, but you think Ireland looks like a b**** for wanting her conniving *** fired? Are you high? If you were in Ireland's position I guess you would've just passively stood around and watched her run you into the ground, eh?.... because that would've been the manly thing to do, right? :001_rolleyes:Click to expand... -
More Armando hogwash.
Oh Ireland the poor victim of the schemings of Dawn Aponte, aka The Wicked (B)Witch of the East, and her milquetoast puppet Joe Philbin, aka Pinocchio.
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Ireland was a threat to her, according to sources who called me this morning.Click to expand...
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Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...ut-from-ireland-vs-dawnjoe.html#storylink=cpy
Hmm, I wonder who that source could me
Ireland, seeing this, asked Ross to fire Aponte after the 2011 season. Ross didn't go for it and, indeed, after mulling the matter, actually promoted Aponte from Senior VP of Football Operations to her current Executive VP role. And in so doing, Ross doubled Aponte's salary. And got her out from under Ireland's umbrella. And Aponte joined parts of the coach search of 2012 that led to Philbin's hiring after Jeff Fisher turned the Dolphins down cold.Click to expand...
BTW I guess Ross did a lot of mulling because Aponte wasn't promoted to EVP until August 2012 but let's not let facts ruin a good story.MikeHoncho, ASOT, Steve-Mo and 1 other person like this. -
You might be inclined to believe this because perhaps you already have a negative predisposition towards Philbin and Aponte.
This is not new info, but Armando selling the readers more snake oil. Seriously, doesn't this strike you at all as a disgruntled employee - Ireland - using his mouthpiece to smear and slander his former employer and coworkers? This information is almost certainly coming from Ireland, and considering it is more favorable to him, who was fired, and damning to those who stayed, doesn't it give you cause to pause and perhaps question the veracity and accuracy of the story?Click to expand...
I never liked Armando, and as far as I'm concerned he and Ireland can jump off of a cliff together, hand in hand. Metaphorically speaking, of course. But the article makes sense to me, unfortunately. And to me, at least, it's all pretty disgusting. I want no part of a connniving manipulator like Aponte and I want no part of a sniveling manipulated weakling like Philbon as a head coach. That'sa why I want the decks cleared, start fresh with the new GM, not have this stink of Aponte and Philbin lurking in the background.ToddPhin likes this. -
How do you know that it's hogwash? You may not like the messenger and neither do I, but the message sounds reasonable enough to me. So unless you have something to back up what you're saying, you can take your snarky posts elsewhere.Click to expand...Larryfinfan likes this.
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Of course I do. But I didn't dream up Apone shadowing Philbin in a really peculiar way. I didn't dream up Aponte controlling Philbin's press conferences, nor did I dream up Philbin emasculating himself by reading off of Aponte supplied index cards at press conferences like a little b****.
I never liked Armando, and as far as I'm concerned he and Ireland can jump off of a cliff together, hand in hand. Metaphorically speaking, of course. But the article makes sense to me, unfortunately. And to me, at least, it's all pretty disgusting. I want no part of a connniving manipulator like Aponte and I want no part of a sniveling manipulated weakling like Philbon as a head coach. That'sa why I want the decks cleared, start fresh with the new GM, not have this stink of Aponte and Philbin lurking in the background.Click to expand... -
How do you know that it's hogwash? You may not like the messenger and neither do I, but the message sounds reasonable enough to me. So unless you have something to back up what you're saying, you can take your snarky posts elsewhere.Click to expand...
However, the fact that it is Armando with the story and considering his likely source, it is evidence enough that this story is either a lie or a distortion of the truth. Armando cannot be trusted, specially with this story and specially under this circumstances. -
If even 1% of this article is true Ross should clean house completely and let the new GM bring in his own people. Whether any one believes this info or not, it's out there for the viewing of any and all possible Ireland replacements, and I for one would have a hard time believing the "cream of the crop" would want to deal with any of this office politics, back biting/back stabbing junk.
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How would Aponte know whether or not that's the case when she formed her alliance with him soon after he was hired? I don't think she cared what kind of coach he was. She's an attorney so I'm guessing she quickly realized Philbin would be around for at least a year, so why not bond with the guy that our owner personally chose as Miami's new head coach.Click to expand...
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Won't be shocked if Aponte is axed this week honestly. I don't think Ross gives two ****s about this sideshow she's giving.
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If even 1% of this article is true Ross should clean house completely and let the new GM bring in his own people. Whether any one believes this info or not, it's out there for the viewing of any and all possible Ireland replacements, and I for one would have a hard time believing the "cream of the crop" would want to deal with any of this office politics, back biting/back stabbing junk.Click to expand...cdz12250 likes this.
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The post was not directed to you, but commenting on Armando. I meant no malice towards you.
However, the fact that it is Armando with the story and considering his likely source, it is evidence enough that this story is either a lie or a distortion of the truth. Armando cannot be trusted, specially with this story and specially under this circumstances.Click to expand...
And as to Ireland- who knows whether he's Armando's source- you sure don't and I don't either. But my best guess is that what was said is most or all true- maybe not what Aponte and Philbin would want released to the public, but accurate.
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Of course I have a negative predisposition as per Aponte and Philbin, I've been clear about that. But I didn't dream up Apone shadowing Philbin in a really peculiar way. I didn't dream up Aponte controlling Philbin's press conferences, nor did I dream up Philbin emasculating himself by reading off of Aponte supplied index cards at press conferences like a little b****.
I never liked Armando, and as far as I'm concerned he and Ireland can jump off of a cliff together, hand in hand. Metaphorically speaking, of course. But the article makes sense to me, unfortunately. And to me, at least, it's all pretty disgusting. I want no part of a connniving manipulator like Aponte and I want no part of a sniveling manipulated weakling like Philbon as a head coach. That'sa why I want the decks cleared, start fresh with the new GM, not have this stink of Aponte and Philbin lurking in the background.Click to expand...
The more likely scenario is that this is a story concocted by Ireland and delivered by his mouthpiece to smear his former coworkers whom he perceives to have cost him his job. It might be a true story, but it might also be an exaggeration of events purposely manipulated to make those people seem worse than they really are. -
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How is Philbin sniveling and weak? How do we know her coaching him didn't go down like this? "Joe, you seem to struggle with the public speaking aspect of this job, especially with the media. Would you like my help to coach you up and improve on it?"Click to expand...
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If even 1% of this article is true Ross should clean house completely and let the new GM bring in his own people. Whether any one believes this info or not, it's out there for the viewing of any and all possible Ireland replacements, and I for one would have a hard time believing the "cream of the crop" would want to deal with any of this office politics, back biting/back stabbing junk.Click to expand...
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BTW two tweets from Darlington 4m ago.
Who are you going to believe on this? Darlington who did such a great job as a beat writer he became a successful NFLN reporter or Armando "High Five Gate" Salguero?Click to expand...
Miami is a coveted b/c AND top tier candidates will want assurances about their role in the organization. It's the same deal as when Ross was looking to replace Sparano, any potential HC would take notice of the GM blatantly stabbing his previous HC in the back.jim1 likes this. -
And, as such, he got played by Aponte and looked like an idiot with her almost constantly at his side, controlling press conferences and suppliying Joey the parrot with index cards to read off what she wanted him to say. And he looked like a fool doing it.Click to expand...MikeHoncho and LiferYank like this.
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