I am sure Titanic will get hammered though I think it is a great movie and better than those it was up against

 

I didn't think American Beauty was all that. Green mile was definitely better IMO


1999 (72nd) American Beauty
The Cider House Rules
The Green Mile
The Insider
The Sixth Sense

 

No way!!

 

Guess we will have to disagree

 

I agree. LA Confidential was a much better movie. Also, SPR should definitely have won in 98.

 

I'll go with 1994 and that pompus, holier-than-thou flick "Forrest Gump" winning the Award over a genuinely moving and insightful picture like "The Shawshank Redemption". Runner up is "The Return of the King" - worst part of the trilogy gets the Award that belonged to either "Mystic River" or "Lost in Translation". A shame they didn't have enough balls to give it to "The Fellowship of the Ring".

 

Disagree totally with your opinions on Forrest Gump and Return of the King.

 

Saving Private Ryan? Are you serious?

 

I didn't think Annie Hall or American Beauty should've won. Good movies sure, but there were classics that got snubbed. I'm a bit biased towards American Beauty since it was filmed at my high school but the other four in that category were equal or better. And Star Wars (15th on AFI's top 100 movies list) should've won over Hall.

 

Is who serious and what did they say about it?

 

No Country for Old Men, granted it was a great movie I just thought it was overhyped.

 

Please leave Sir...just go... :pity:

 

American Beauty is one of the 10 best films of this generation IMO
You can have Cider House Rules it wasnt that great...
You're right The Green Mile and Sixth Sense were both EXCELLENT films that deserved the Oscar.

 

I never said it was bad it was just overhyped, I still loved the movie though.

 

Forrest gump and Shawshank are both great movies IMO. Not sure where the whole "pompus, holier-than-thou" comment comes from.....

 

Alright then you're forgiven. :wink2: Honestly I wouldnt have been upset if 'There Will Be Blood' took it home. They were both great films.

 

I agree sir

 

mystic river was overrated IMO.
Lost in translation though I would have given the award too, but they had been snubbing LOTR trilogy from what I remember.

 

1980 Raging Bull should have won over Ordinary People
1990 Goodfellas should have won over Dances with Wolves
1996 Fargo should have won over The English Patient
2002 Gangs of NY should have won over Chicago


I dont really have a problem with Titanic winning. I think LA Confidential is better but Titanic isnt bad imo. American Beauty and Forest Gump are no brainer wins imo.

 

Well I agree on Shakespeare in Love, but the only reason I agree is because "Thin Red Line" was nominated, and Thin Red Line was an awesome movie plus it was the return of Terrance Malick into the world of filmmaking, which is something that should have received an award:

My candidates:

In 1964 My Fair Lady won for best movie beating out Dr. Strangelove (or how ... ...) which I can live with (I love My fair Lady) but I admit that Dr. Strangelove is a way more important and better movie than My Fair Lady.

By the same token a year later The sound of Music (this was Hollywoods heyday in Musicals) won the Oscar beaating out Dr. Zhivago which is one of the most important movies of the century...

In 1967 In the heat of the Night beat out both Bonnie and Clyde and The Graduate... and the Graduate is a far better movie.

I'll get **** for this one but in 1976 Rocky beat out "All the Presidents' men" which is again a better movie.

A HUUUGE one... in 1979 "Kramer vs. Kramer" beat out "Apocalypse Now" which is plain stupid.

And then the academy one-upped themselves giving in 1980 the Oscar to "Ordinary People" while leaving "RAging Bull" and "The Elephant Man" as simple nominees.

1989 also was a bad decision, they chose to give the oscar to "Driving Miss Daisy" instead of "Born in the fourth of july" , "Dead Poets society" or "My Left Foot"

Another enormous one happened in 1990 where they gave the oscar to "Dancing with Wolves" when "GoodFellas" was a nominated movie.

And as far as I am concerned, you can't give the Oscar to "Unforgiven" when "The Crying Game" is nominated, which happened in 1992

The "Forrest Gump" one is one that actually should bring up some debate since it beat up "Shawshank Redemption" and "Pulp Fiction" so you can argue the merits of all three of those movies.

I don't think "Braveheart" deserves anything... but there where no movies that year that where worth it (well Leaving las Vegas... but it wasnt nominated)

"English Patient" should not have beat out "Shine"

"American Beauty" is and should have won the Oscar. It is by far the best movie of that year and it is just a tour de force of awesome directing and acting, it has everything you need to make a movie wonderful and it is wonderful.

How "gladiator" beat "Traffic" completely escapes me, except for the Academy loves epics that make money... even if they are all glam and no substance.

There is no way in hell "A beautiful Mind" deserved to win. "In the Bedroom" was 100 times the movie that Beautiful was... not only that but that year gave us freaking Ron Howard winning the Best Director Oscar over Robert Altman, Peter Jackson, David Lynch and Ridley Scott all of which have waaay more talent than him in their pinky finger.

Chicago was not better than "The Pianist" despite what feelings we might have for Polanski (who actually did win best director)

Return of the king was not better than Lost in Translation (although both of them sucked... The best movie of that year was Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and it did not get nominated)

The aviator should have won and Scorsese should have won for that one.

Crash is not a better movie than Brokeback Mountain.

And The Departed should not have won either, the best movie that year was not nominated (Children of Men)

 

I agree with a lot of this, especially the Graduate. Great movie, as was Bonnie and Clyde. I also like All the Presidents Men quite a bit so I'd have no real issue with that over Rocky. Cant say I'm a fan of Thin Red Line however. I saw it in theaters and maybe I was just too young to appreciate but I thought it was horrible. I havent seen it since then so maybe I need to suck it up and give it another viewing. Forrest Gump, Shawshanke and Pulp Fiction, great year for movies, one could make a case that any of the 3 deserved to win. I still havent seen Dr. Zhivago or Dr. Strangelove but both are on my to do list. I also have no problems with Unforgiven winning, I love that movie.

 

Chicago might be the worst movie ever to win an oscar.

 

You should... .first time I saw it I was just as angry as you where thought it was awful and overrated... But when I saw it again I was blown away. Just awesome movie.

Zhivago is awesome. Anything David Lean is good as far as I am concerned.

 

I really think its pretty bad when something that was a great play wins or gets aclame for being a good movie. Seems like cheating to me.......

 

Not reallly, you could argue the same about books... a lot of movies out there (if not most) are based on something. Few are 100% original.

 

Not really plays such as broadway plays come with visuals included. Yes some of what is done in a movie/broadway play is the directors own interpretation, but at least in my view, when you are given visuals already it leaves little for the movie directors to fill in. Where as books, most books, visuals included, are very open to interpretation, since most of it is written word. I just think there is more flexibility with books then with a play that has been produced over and over.

 

The Thin Red Line was a horrible mishmash of a movie.

Agreed. Dancing With Wolves should have been called Sleeping in Theaters.

While Fellowship of the Ring was better, Return of the King was a great movie and deserved to win.

 

Gladiator may have been an "Epic" but it was a GREAT epic.. sorry but Crowe and Pheonix had Oscar worthy performances wrapped in those "epic" trappings.

 

WHAT???????

Traffic was a great movie..but it was nowhere near the film Gladiator was. Gladiator will be remembered and quoted till the end of time. Traffic has been forgotten.

 

I thought Traffic completely sucked. Matter of fact I disagree with 3/4 of Q's post above.

To say that Unforgiven, Braveheart, Gladiator, and, Retrurn of the King, and Departed should not have won is blasphemy in my mind. Especially Braveheart, Unforgiven, and Departed. Braveheart set the standard for what epic battle scenes are now.

 

dude I really like the departed then I watched the original series made in china and now I cant stand the film. It's such a hardcore rip off of the chinese film. Internal affairs saga for any and all those interested....

 

No .

 

Chinese version is really good. I've only seen the 1st one, didnt realize it was a set. It's Infernal Affairs though :wink2:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0338564/

 

Either way I own the whole set so pffffffffffffft :tongue2:

You can buy it off amazon I think it was like 30 dollars made by the dragon dynasty company.

 

Yes it has.

I said so..and that makes it so.

 

"Are you not entertained?"

 

Blasfemia :pity: