Bit of a bumpy moment in their ride together:
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The league is figuring out how to stop the gimmick and his time is almost up, so he's getting restless. I hope to see it just completely melt in disaster next season and end this nonsense with tiny QBs.
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He strikes me as a guy who doesn't really enjoy playing the game and reportedly he has some maturity issues.
That said, there is no chance the Cardinals move him, not in the least because there really isn't anything to replace him with. Their best chance, by far, is to roll with Murray and hope DHop stays healthy and their secondary WRs develop more. I do wonder if they need a taller WR corps though. Green is tall but washed, Hopkins missed like half the season and their other targets are all little dudes.
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I can see him going back to playing baseball. It looks like he doesn't enjoy football.
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A quarterback needs to pick and choose those moments to run for those 8 yards on 2nd and 10 and 3rd and 6. Something I hope McDaniel teaches to Tua because he has the athleticism to do it. -
That said, I think writing off mobile QB's is way to premature, and also negates the existence of Josh Allen.MikeHoncho and resnor like this. -
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Every time I see him without a helmet on, I think he looks like he's about 16 years old. Murray is certainly still a kid in many aspects and I think he has some growing to do over the next few years. I personally think he's going to switch to baseball this year or next.
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That’s the problem for quarterbacks like Jackson, Murray et al. When they first come into the scene, they’re that flash of lightening in a bottle but as quickly as the burst on the scene, they tend to fade as quickly.
Ive watched football for a NUMBER of years and in general, quarterbacks to run the ball quite often typically don’t have long careers. Elway is an exception but then again, you never really saw Elway breaking for a 30+ yard run consistently.
McMahon was pulverized
Young was pulverized
Cunningham was pulverized
Vick, McNabb, Newton, Jackson all took/have taken beatings and the altering of their game to keep them healthy and on the field exposed them as not very good quarterbacks in the long term.
As long as Murray is able to continue his scrambles for big gains like he has, he’s going to be a threat, but his threat is being exposed and I just don’t think he has what is takes to be that traditional pocket quarterback.KeyFin likes this. -
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What do we think Kyler is asking for? $40? $45 million a year?
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One of the best ways to contain quarterbacks like that are to force them to stay in the pocket. I remember a number of years ago when the Dolphins played the Falcons. The Dolphins defense forces Vick to stay in the pocket. Needless to say, it wasn’t a good night for Vick and the Falcons. -
So... you're all hinting that Josh Allen will get injured this season on a scramble? That just as his big money is hitting the Bill's salary cap, he'll be starting to break down?
I can't tell you how bad that makes me feel. Not without seeming like a bad person or something.
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The three games I watched him play this year he was horrible. He was the weak link on the team.
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I mean, the kid would make more from baseball, he wouldn't get knocked on his butt 100x a season, and he'd probably have a longer career. Sooner or later he's going to realize that baseball is safer/smarter/more profitable than being a QB1 in the NFL.
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