lotta good stuff guys ^

 

Wow. Yes.

 

Excellent I hadn't seen that you'd finished the group two pass rushers.

So Gayle and Martin seem like clear cream of the crop when it comes to PRR.

 

Thank you! Based on the Tier 1 WR breakdowns, I really wish we could find a way to nab Evans. His size, high percentage of deep passes, 8.92 YAC on screens, and really good YAC #'s even with almost 44% of his catches coming on comebacks seem to fit our team well. I know we need O-Lineman, but a potential playmaker would be great too.

 

Must be time consuming.

 

Shows how observant I am. I had already found and bookmarked your site and didn't even realize it was you. Probably "found" it from a link you or someone posted on here w/out realizing it was you.

 

Other 90,000* prospects please.

*Estimation.

 

Really too bad you never got the chance to work up Kyle Van Noy.

I don't really consider the PRR of OLBs to be apples-to-apples with those of DEs but regardless, Van Noy's PRR would be ludicrous.

He doesn't rush the passer as much as people think but when he does...he's INCREDIBLY efficient and savvy at beating blockers.

I've got him well over Anthony Barr at this point on my board.

 

Van Noy's coverage ability is underrated too, imo. He's an impressive athlete who really looks like a 3-down player with instincts, quick off the snap, and can do pretty much whatever you ask...though I don't think he's your feature pass rusher. He wasn't great finishing plays in 2013, tackling form not as disciplined, kind of loose/lunging/grabby. But he's great starting plays, imo, his initial motions are quick and sudden off the snap, and he's decisive. Real NFL kind of movement from his stance.

He was unreal in 2012. I wonder if he dialed it back just a bit last season realizing that he should've put himself in the NFL by that point.

 

You're right on everything here. He's really an incredible overall athlete and it's because of his ability to see things on the move in real time and react to them. Combine that with very underrated physical characteristics (agility, quick twitch, balance, strength) and you have a hell of a player.

To be honest I'm tempted to see if the Eagles will trade us their 1st rounder for Dion Jordan so that I could take Van Noy to be a Sam in place of Misi who moves inside to Mike. And if you also grabbed a Ryan Shazier that's one hell of a linebacking unit.

Of course then you've still got to figure out the offensive line, LOL.

 

Hah, what OLine? My trouble with wanting OLine for us at 50 is that the media mocks/boards are seriously underrating a couple really good defenders. Crazy value, so it seems...the NFL guys actually making the picks are probably in a different place on these guys.

But yea, I keep seeing Deone Bucannon and/or Van Noy available at 50. Like...sign me up. These are guys I'd love to trade up for at the back-end of the first, and I keep seeing them falling into the mid-2nd.

And trading Jordan? That's...bold. I think Dion's in for a huge year if we, ya know, put him on the field. Can't wait to see him doing everything everywhere.

 

Ziggy Ansah's presence was a plus for him.......... but he's still a fantastic prospect regardless. I know it's a different position but when I watch Van Noy I think I see Lawrence Timmons, and it makes me wonder if he might not make an even better ILB. He's definitely the kind of player you'd want QB'ing a defense.

 

Drafting the thumping Bucannon and moving Reshad to free in 2015 is an entertaining idea, especially with Hickey's history of safety in Tampa, first with a top 10 pick on Barron and then a big contract for Goldson. I think Bucannon would need a year to settle in so this would be a good time to draft him.

 

I think they'd be a fine pair because they're both just very good all-around players. Bucannon might end up being the best safety in the class, and at the very least he's not far off right now. I think he's a first round talent, and someone you just cannot pass up at 50.

Bucannon won't be able to take elite slot guys man-to-man as a rookie...few too many wrong steps and tight hips to hang with the really quick guys. He struggled in the Oregon game particularly marking Josh Huff (who would look great in aqua). I feel for him a bit that game because the rest of that WSU defense is truly terrible, got run up and down the field all day.

But he can do pretty much everything else and I think he has the tools to get better covering the slot by being physical. Imposing frame, straight-line speed, hits like a house, takes good angles to the ballcarrier and tracking it in the air, great ball skills, turnover machine, can handle TEs. He's a very good player all around. He's best playing downhill at this point, but I think people are equating big hitter to can't cover when it's not completely true in this case.

I'd love to add this kind of versatile enforcer to the middle of the field. Looks like a LB like Kam Chancellor, whose coverage tools are also underrated. But I think Bucannon will be able to float back over the top more often. Like I said, he's a no-brainer to me at 50 and a potential move-up target.

 

I think ultimately Coyle would like to be running a system that doesn't depend as much on differences in the safeties. Reshad Jones and Deone Buchanon would fit together on that basis.

 

I think man coverage is actually Buchanon's strong suit.

I didn't see the kind of issue you did with him in the Oregon game. Huff only caught one pass on him and it wasn't really in man coverage.

Biggest issue for me was that blown tackle on Mariota that resulted in a long TD run, and that was just overpursuit.

Oregon will tend to challenge any defensive backfield. They spread the hell out of the field, create all kinds of issues with their options. He did fight back in that game though, big forced fumble.

 

Huff should've had a long TD on DB, iirc, but Mariota missed. Either way, I do think the ultra-quick guys could give him a little trouble in the beginning of his pro career. You're right that he can definitely cover, especially when he utilizes that length. I'm just saying that these big boards/experts who say he's a downhill in-the-box hitter are selling him short. I think they see the linebacker frame with the big hits and immediately think he can't stick with guys downfield. But really he's a much more complete player.

 

This thread is GOLD. Great work NU

 

Im a bit sad I just saw this now... but at least I still have a few days before the draft to dig into these today...

Guess I'm not getting much work done at the office today. :lol:

 

Well, duty calls. :yes: