Having Vernon or Shelby at that other end position on base downs would be my choice. Don't discount Shelby. He's obviously hurt but if he gets healthy enough to be 100% in training camp, he could factor in.

The Dolphins did a good job with the 2012 Draft for the most part and they also did really well with their undrafted free agency that year. They're going to get mileage out of Derrick Shelby, Josh Samuda and Jonas Gray. I believe they'll get mileage out of Chad Bumphis as well. I think that 2012 class will be one that is remembered quite a bit more than the 2013 class, and not just because of Ryan Tannehill.

 

An interesting (and frustrating) statement.

 

Third leg of the stool is rushing the Qb with 4 DLinemen and getting sacks, this imo is why Dion Jordan was drafted.

TBH, since 08 our UDFA classes have not exactly done a whole lot, we should hit on someone this year simply due to the law of averages imo.

And, Philbin's statement "..felt like we needed Rb's to block better..." is huge imo, I've banged the drum about that most of the offseason.

 

First thing he's said in months that I'm find to be accurate, Dion Jordan will face Lt's in passrushing situations unless he is coming as the Jack.

 

As of today, I don't think there's anyone right now that would present a challenge to his making the roster again this year. He certainly wasn't out of his element last year when he played.

That said, I think when Randy Starks comes back during mandatory minicamp, Jared Odrick will move back to DE in the base package.

 

Kraken has that in the bag imo, on par w/Reggie White and yet few people know anything about him.

 

Shame he bloomed so late.

 

Far from out of his element, I thought he was arguably better than Olivier Vernon, and nearly as good as Jared Odrick. As a rookie, that's impressive.

When you look at Derrick Shelby getting over 220 snaps, to me I'd almost say that's more impressive than Olivier Vernon's 450 rookie snaps. The reason is Derrick Shelby started off on the bottom rung, as a UDFA...the coaches had no vision whatsoever for how he fits into the regular season defense when they signed him. They couldn't, he was just a UDFA, almost certain to be cut before the season began. On the other hand, Olivier Vernon started off with the coaches already having a vision (faulty as it was, IMO) for how he fits and what he's going to do even as a rookie. Some guys are legitimately good football players and never even make it off that bottom run, either from lack of opportunities to show what they've got, or because the coaches aren't properly recognizing what they're seeing out of a guy. Shelby made it all the way from "sure to be cut" status, to making the team, to actually playing 220 snaps in the season.

 

He would probably still be a Giant if he bloomed early.

 

Dallas Thomas interview and some other notes
http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/a...-Session/e7b204fa-27de-41e6-b6f0-8896f6cff3ae

 

Well shame for him at least. Not for us.

 

Best part...

 

I respect coach Turner having a plan for Jerry. He rode him hard enough last year to get a passable season from his royal fatness, playing him into shape (though a large shape).

Considering he came into camp in better shape this year than he showed up last OTA camps, if Turner gives him ALL the first team practice snaps and FIVE preseason games that will almost certainly play this kid into the best shape he's ever been in in the pros. When you have a guy who hates the gym (apparently) and won't stop eating, you just give him extra helpings during practice.

If Jerry plays better this season, I'll tip my hat to Turner for reclaiming this guy off the scrap heap.

 

You know, if Jerry and Martin play better than last year, this will be a pretty good O-line. Not that improbable, really.

 

Why cant punters also take on kicking duties? And vice-versa?

 

What are they basing that off of?

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Wrong thread? Not sure how to respond to this.


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Louis is rehabbing, no?

 

Can't win the job rehabbing.

 

Hartline did it.

That's some un-affirmative action right there if you ask me.

 

Well, it went uncommented upon, however Omark pointed out Wake flips to face RT's on passing downs, meaning..wait for it..Jordan is slated to play DE in passing situations.

If anyone cares to search, there is another sort of Cam Wake in the league atm, his name is Junior Gallette for the Saints, fmr Temple and Stillman player who I thought would be a solid passrushing guy as well back in 09 via small college focus.

He made PFF's secret super star list for 2013, and will get more snaps.

Trust me when I say, Jordan will be just fine.

 

I didn't see Omar say that but if he did then he's confused. Wake didn't flip at all last year, he was a LE. His effectiveness drops off of a cliff when he goes to RE so it's not surprising that Coyle would leave him on one side. It's also why I don't put him in the same category as Jared Allen, Demarcus Ware or Julius Peppers, guys who can wreak havoc from either side.

I'm with you on Jordan. Get him in camp and fast track his *** on how to rush the passer. No need to get all cute putting him at multiple positions or having him chase TEs around the field. We didn't trade up to #3 for an OLB, at least I hope not.

 

The problem with having Jordan cover TE's is that Wake is always on the left side, which is the strong side the vast majority of the time. Having two edge rushers on the same of the formation is a waste IMO. If you want DJ strong side you'd have to move Wake to RDE and eat the drop in effectiveness that's going to come with it. Then you have to worry about Jordan being targeted in the run game, either setting the edge or filling, which isn't his strength. Then on passing downs, he's chasing TEs around instead of getting after the QB. I'm not a big fan of that at all.