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No surprise, Sparano said as much was going to happen whenever he was asked this offseason, not the WCO but lots of 3 wides, lots of passing, and the game had nothing to do with evaluating the running game as job #1 is to find the best Wr corps possible, but with Sparano's past, why would we think anything differently?
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TP is having a baby. It's the best formation the NFL has to offer these days. We'll see who they put in it, but the days of Henne having Polite-Haynos to pass to are over. Get that pass protect happy line ready. We're going for big yardage.
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Maybe Marshall didn't play because Sparano didn't want anyone to fall in love with him and he wouldn't get to really see the other players. Bush as well.
Or it could just be injury concerns.HULKFish likes this. -
I've thought about this today Trowa, and it seems to me I can see what they are sort of going for:
A sort of San Diego Chargers style of offense, or maybe the Texans.
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very well said Pardre this is something that I have been praying for because the over use of the run didnt get us anywhere and unlike the stubborn fans that just want to run the ball all the time this is a much needed blessing . Plus oposing defenses wont have it as easy when we use different formations and take chances.
truth is on face book dolphin fans all they want to do is run ,run, and run, so we have been doing that for 30 years and how many super bowls have one ? zilch . am I the only one who is willing to take risk and enjoy the rewards of doing smething different that could get us much better results and that is what I want it the results,
screw tradition , screw the stuborn fans that have no imagination , screw the notion of we have to do the same thing every freaking year.
which is more important doing the same thing year after year ang getting nowhere or trying to make it to the big game ?
why do people care so much wheather Miami is gutsy enough to to run the wishbone or the tbone or the diamond formation or a 4 wr set and one tightend or 1 fullback I want to be the best and I want Miami to stop being a non factor in playoff talk so damn it guys I 'm not going to live forever so I want a exciting offense and a better chance to win the big game . -
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Quick question if your run PA against a team in a dime, aren't the nickel and dime CBs in a bit of a bind because they're so critical in run containment? Wouldn't that mean Matt Moore would be a very effective QB with his ability to take off, accurately pass. If you protect him I don't think Henne lasts long with the starting job.
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Bush is likely to catch 50 passes this yr Deej, think of them as extensions of the running game ala the WCO.
Lots of options and formations, which is why I suspect they'd love for Clay to shine as a FB as he creates matchup problems for the D to align itself to, if Clay goes in motion who will stick with him a ILB?
Clay would win that matchup 10 times out of 10 unless it were just an elite ILB.
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I like how a game in which the play-calling was 56% pass attempts is regarded as some sort of paradigm-shift from the previous season, in which they threw the ball 55% of the time.
That being said, I think the Dolphins strongest personnel package is their "11" lineup... 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB. There's the obvious passing-game elements, but it might be better for the run game too.MarinePhinFan, Trowa and ToddsPhins like this. -
Why is that 111 lineup stronger than say:
Gates, Marshall on the left with Bess Hartline on the right, and Thomas in the backfield?
If anything moving Marshall inside against a nickel CB is just as advantageous against the run as Fasano is against a LB, not to mention you have a legitimate deep threat on the field with the rest of the crew there. It's a frightening lineup to face if the protection is working.
If your QB has any mobility, it's even tougher because now you have to leave a spy. That's more or less 5 receiving options that need to be covered by a double cover for Marshall, a safety over the top, and five other cover guys. Then there's a spy underneath making eight. That leaves three to rush. That's nothing.
Against the run the defense will have serious trouble leaving enough size on the field to counter Thomas up the middle.Bpk likes this. -
I didnt even know we had a group of TEs .:shifty: This regime has acted as though the position is unimportant .
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I think that's a good call, Dis.
Ronnie & Ricky ran for about 3.5 YPC out of 2 WR sets and roughly 4.9 out of 3+ WR sets FWIW.
That's why I wanted Zach Miller in a bad way---- so that if we went with only 1 TE more often to keep Bess on the field, he'd be a serious threat in the passing game while not really sacrificing in the running game. -
It's not quite so bad to take your shots in preseason games. I wonder if it will continue into the regular season, or will Tony put the reigns back on when the score matters.
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You've still got to run the ball, and Anthony Fasano is about as dominant a run blocking tight end as you get.
Not to mention Gates is a rookie, has a single preseason game of not particularly ground-breaking performance to go with, and you're essentially looking to go with a rookie tailback as your sole extra pass protector playing in a division with maybe the most dangerous nickel packages in the game. -
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There's a little known guy on the squad that just might make it in this league and help us at SOLB: #99 JT. As much as I'm still ticked about his wearing a green uni, he's back so gotta move on and he may just have another good year left in him, lets hope so.
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Like Ive been saying since getting Bush...use him at flanker. Thomas in the backfield. Mismatches all over. Bush is almost a prototype flanker as he plays well in space. Your split end is typically your taller, more possession type guy. Thats where Marshall should be lining up. I would use Bush as a receiver almost exclusively save for a few Jet Sweeps out of the WC and stretch runs to the perimeter of the defense. I dont know if Daboll is that creative but Bush is a matchup nightmare if you get him outside. Hes stilla running back so he will be harder for many CB's to bring him down and everyone knows he can make you miss which is a corners worst nightmare.djphinfan and eltos_lightfoot like this.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_set
And you motion Bush lots. Can even pre-snap motion him to a WR spot on plays for a single-back, 3WR look.
They may not line up exactly as in that diagram, but that's what I expect to see a bit of under Daboll, except the "FB" will be Thomas as a more traditional runningback who can carry, block or catch equally well.djphinfan likes this. -
Some of those rushing stats comparing 2WR vs 3WR sets are skewed by situation. Often the 3WR personnel get used on later downs (esp. 3rd) with a longer distance to go , so those 'underneath' rushing yards are a little softer to get off a defense who is willing to give up 5 on 3rd and 10, whereas the 2WR set is more often an early down or a shorter down-distance where the defense is more aggressively committed to contesting every rushing yard.
To me, the best comparison would be between 2WR vs 3WR rushing stats on 1st down plays.Boik14, Trowa and ToddsPhins like this. -
You are preaching to the choir CT. Does any team in the league have a worse set of backup TEs than Shuler, Mastrud and Epps?CrunchTime likes this.
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Good call.
wish we had that rushing split available.... at least I haven't found a site that breaks it down that well. -
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JT is whom I was thinking of Mr C, especially if Misi is out like 3-4 weeks.
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Its based on that I think he's smarter than you think about his football team, recognized the weaknesses of it, and had Ireland address those weaknesses specifically thru the draft and free agency, and, that he hired his own offensive coordinator who I don't believe is conservative by nature.MrClean likes this.