NFL mulls season-ending divisional games so teams will use starters

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xphinfanxxphinfanxforum_veteranOP
Mar 25, 2010, 12:32 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8171ff2f&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

This would defiantly make for some very good games and could keep some starters playing .

That's why they play the games!:yes:

xphinfanxxphinfanxforum_veteran
Mar 25, 2010, 12:51 AM

This could have the Dolphins playing the Jets ending the season instead of the colts watching from the bench as the 3rd string scrimmages the Jets.

That's why they play the games!:yes:

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Mar 25, 2010, 08:35 AM

Yeah, and guaranteed, our weeks 15 and 16 will be away...in the crappy NY or NE or Barfalo weather...

anlgpanlgpNew Member
Mar 25, 2010, 08:39 AM

do eeeeeeeet

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HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Mar 25, 2010, 09:43 AM

Great idea.

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UltraUltraforum_veteran
Mar 25, 2010, 09:45 AM

sounds good to me

TheHighExhaultedTheHighExhaultedforum_veteran
Mar 25, 2010, 09:46 AM

Makes sense.

SESeanPsubscriber
Mar 25, 2010, 09:52 AM

I'm on the fence on this. Sure it's going to help in cases where teams are in the heat of things, but it's not going to solve the problem people had with the Colts resting starters at 14-0.

The main reason a team rests their starters is because they're a shoe in to go to the playoffs. There weren't many teams that were shoe ins in the last week or so.

I'm not against it or anything, I mean it does help in some situations, I just think there's got to be a more broad solution that covers all situations.

PSGPSGforum_veteran
Mar 25, 2010, 10:10 AM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Yeah, and guaranteed, our weeks 15 and 16 will be away...in the crappy NY or NE or Barfalo weather...

I doubt that.
In fact, in my opinion that's why the Week 1 primetime and Thanksgiving schedule wasn't released this week, as was reported.
I think the league is working on having all division games in Weeks 16 and 17 and trying to make sure nobody has back-to-back roadies.
In the end, in might not be possilbe, but I think that is why the schedule release was delayed.

PSGPSGforum_veteran
Mar 25, 2010, 10:11 AM

"SeanP wrote:

I'm on the fence on this. Sure it's going to help in cases where teams are in the heat of things, but it's not going to solve the problem people had with the Colts resting starters at 14-0.

The main reason a team rests their starters is because they're a shoe in to go to the playoffs. There weren't many teams that were shoe ins in the last week or so.

I'm not against it or anything, I mean it does help in some situations, I just think there's got to be a more broad solution that covers all situations.

It's easy to say there must be a better solution. Fact is, I don't think there is one.

LarryfinfanLarryfinfansubscriber
Mar 25, 2010, 10:14 AM

"pigskinguy wrote:

I doubt that.
In fact, in my opinion that's why the Week 1 primetime and Thanksgiving schedule wasn't released this week, as was reported.
I think the league is working on having all division games in Weeks 16 and 17 and trying to make sure nobody has back-to-back roadies.
In the end, in might not be possilbe, but I think that is why the schedule release was delayed.

It was a bit of a smart-azz remark, knowing that they league likes to put us in NY and NE late in the season...It happens nearly every year. It would be very difficult to make sure that no teams have back to back roadies, and we are the logical ones to get screwed that way because NE and NYjests have much bigger markets and followings than we do. It may not come to pass, and I was being pretty sarcastic, but it also wouldn't surprise me if it does...

SESeanPsubscriber
Mar 25, 2010, 10:17 AM

I'd be ok with playing up at the Jets in Week 17 so long as we've got Mark Sanchez throwing passes in the cold

BigDogsHuntBigDogsHuntNew Member
Mar 25, 2010, 10:59 AM

We have had Divisional season endng games in the past.

Wasnt it a week 17 game where Flutie drop-kicked the successful conversion??

If a team has clinched, this wont change whether starters sit or play.

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PSGPSGforum_veteran
Mar 25, 2010, 11:32 AM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

It was a bit of a smart-azz remark, knowing that they league likes to put us in NY and NE late in the season...It happens nearly every year. It would be very difficult to make sure that no teams have back to back roadies, and we are the logical ones to get screwed that way because NE and NYjests have much bigger markets and followings than we do. It may not come to pass, and I was being pretty sarcastic, but it also wouldn't surprise me if it does...

I know. My post was just to give my .02 cents. Not to call you out. I have no doubt one of our final two games would be at Giants Stadium or Foxboro. I just don't see the league making us play 2 back-to-back cold weather divisional games in Weeks 16 and 17

KillerphinsKillerphinsNew Member
Mar 25, 2010, 12:54 PM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Yeah, and guaranteed, our weeks 15 and 16 will be away...in the crappy NY or NE or Barfalo weather...

where did we play when we clinched the division in the final week of the season in '08 :wink2:
the nfl must be out to get us right

Mar 25, 2010, 01:04 PM

It could gurantee an ice-ass cold game for us.

MonstBlitz;2232016 wrote:

It wouldn't surprise me if he is retained. Jeff Ireland is the nightmare that won't end. The **** stain you cannot flush. The Herpes for which there is no cure.

Jt0323Jt0323moderator
Mar 25, 2010, 01:10 PM

If i remember correctly, 2008 Season, our regular season game was against some team from New York in which we beat to win the division, i would love to get the chance to do that again, whether its the Jets, Bills or Patriots

Wildcat23Wildcat23New Member
Mar 25, 2010, 01:15 PM

Love this. Hope it happens. And to the above poster, I believe you are correct.

frozenfinfrozenfinNew Member
Mar 25, 2010, 02:11 PM

I don't get the benefit in the situation of resting starters... Colts would have benched their starters whether they played the Jests or the Titans or anybody at the point of 14-0.

The effect that I like the most which would have changed the end of 2009 is there would not have been three out of freaking four wild card playoff games that were rematches from week 17... the exception of course is Dallas vs Philly.

SESeanPsubscriber
Mar 25, 2010, 02:20 PM

It would be nice if they found a way to just have your final season record augment your draft choices somehow. Maybe the compensatory ones for example. I don't know I'm just throwing up random ideas.

The point is there should be some incentive for winning games, that makes you WANT to go undefeated. Because as much as I hate the Pats, they put it all on the line in their 18-1 year. They could have stopped, but didn't, and I would hope the NFL can find a way to reward teams that push it.

I'm not saying I want to see any other teams join the undefeated club. But it diminishes the sport if there's nothing gotten but a head nod on ESPN for taking a risk at greatness.

HardKoreXXXHardKoreXXXNew Member
Mar 25, 2010, 04:36 PM

"frozenfin wrote:

I don't get the benefit in the situation of resting starters... Colts would have benched their starters whether they played the Jests or the Titans or anybody at the point of 14-0.

The effect that I like the most which would have changed the end of 2009 is there would not have been three out of freaking four wild card playoff games that were rematches from week 17... the exception of course is Dallas vs Philly.

Well, if you have no losses going into the the last two games of the season, like the Colts, then it's not gonna matter who you play.

However, if the Jets played the Dolphins or Pats the last two games of the year, chances are they don't make the Playoffs.

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steveincoloradosteveincoloradoNew Member
Mar 25, 2010, 05:13 PM

"Larryfinfan wrote:

Yeah, and guaranteed, our weeks 15 and 16 will be away...in the crappy NY or NE or Barfalo weather...

I actually like the idea.....here's my idea. Play the first 3 games of the season against the division and the last 3 also. Have a 8 year plan like they did last schedule. For example....2010 start the season, 2H and 1A, finish of the year by 2A and 1H. 2011, just swap, start the season 1H and 2A, finish the season by 2H and 1A. Does that make any sense??:yes:

xphinfanxxphinfanxforum_veteran
Mar 25, 2010, 10:49 PM

No matter whos having the good season you can't pick the winner in a divisional game it could be very interesting.

That's why they play the games!:yes:

muscle979muscle979forum_veteran
Mar 26, 2010, 06:28 AM

Any plan that would help prevent a scenario like the end of last season is fine by me. I couldn't stomach watching a classless team like the Jets get another free pass into the playoffs.

frozenfinfrozenfinNew Member
Mar 26, 2010, 02:01 PM

But then the benefit of playing a "starter resting" team would simply be transferred from one team to the other. Instead of the Jests getting a pass into the playoffs it could have been the Texans or Titans. Not to say I would've loved to have not seen NY advance, heh. But whether it's a non-divisional game or a divisional game, the same problem exists as long as the opponent is a wild card contender, of which there seemed to be like a dozen in the AFC last year.

All those Colt scenarios aside, I do like the possibility of division standings and champions fought out head-to-head at the end of the year, ala Fins vs Jests 2008. Playoffs started a week early in that case.

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